Farming and eating need to change to curb global warming: U.N. report

[bristolboy]

2 hours ago, cooked said:

What has Fox News got to do with anything remotely connected to this report?

Maybe because they consistently present people who claim that either global warming is not a real thing or that it's greatly exaggerated.

[Roadman]

2 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

If it was natural, wild species that were roaming the planet you might have a point. However that is not the situation is it.

 

Most of the cattle on the planet are not naturally breeding but are the result of intense cattle farming on an industrial scale.

 

Forests are being decimated to create grazing land. Therein lies the double whammy, carbon reducing forests are cleared for methane producing cattle. 

 

You dont have to be veggie to see the problem. Cut down on meat and dairy consumption, reduce demand and start planting trees (or any type of plant really) not cutting them down.  

You are listening to too much greenie garbage. The deforestation that is ramping up again is not for cattle grazing but for soy crops. For years the greenies garbage was targeting dairy as the cause of South American deforestation for palm kernel as crop feed when palm kernel is a byproduct of what it was grown for being palm oil. They have gone bloody quiet lately as while deforestation has slowed it still has continued for the new value crop of the greenies supporters being vegans base food soy. And with Trumps idiot trade war with the Chinese seeing China go elsewhere to buy their soy sticking it to Trump and US farmers, it’s the pressure coming back on Amazon forests for soy production for the Chinese market.

[soalbundy]

14 hours ago, Cryingdick said:

Stop breeding like flies is the solution to the problem. 

people have stopped breeding like flies, it's becoming a demographic problem for places like Thailand and china as well as the EU, too many old age pensioners and soon not enough young workers to pay into the pension pot.

[bristolboy]

13 minutes ago, Roadman said:

You are listening to too much greenie garbage. The deforestation that is ramping up again is not for cattle grazing but for soy crops. 

If what the "greenies" are alleging is garbage, then your assertion is the stuff that cesspools are filled with.

Cattle Ranching in the Amazon Region

Cattle ranching is the largest driver of deforestation in every Amazon country, accounting for 80% of current deforestation rates. Amazon Brazil is home to approximately 200 million head of cattle, and is the largest exporter in the world, supplying about one quarter of the global market. Low input cost and easy transportation in rural areas make ranching an attractive economic activity in the forest frontier; low yields and cheap land encourage expansion and deforestation. 

https://globalforestatlas.yale.edu/amazon/land-use/cattle-ranching

 

[Bluespunk]

30 minutes ago, Roadman said:

You are listening to too much greenie garbage. The deforestation that is ramping up again is not for cattle grazing but for soy crops. For years the greenies garbage was targeting dairy as the cause of South American deforestation for palm kernel as crop feed when palm kernel is a byproduct of what it was grown for being palm oil. They have gone bloody quiet lately as while deforestation has slowed it still has continued for the new value crop of the greenies supporters being vegans base food soy. And with Trumps idiot trade war with the Chinese seeing China go elsewhere to buy their soy sticking it to Trump and US farmers, it’s the pressure coming back on Amazon forests for soy production for the Chinese market.

I’m not listening to any “greenie garbage” as you put it. I am all in with the Green movement. 

 

Soy is indeed grown on land after the cattle ranchers have finished with it. 

 

Here’s some reading for you. 

 

https://globalforestatlas.yale.edu/amazon/land-use/cattle-ranching

 

https://wwf.panda.org/knowledge_hub/where_we_work/amazon/amazon_threats/unsustainable_cattle_ranching/

 

 

https://chainreactionresearch.com/report/cattle-driven-deforestation-a-major-risk-to-brazilian-retailers/

 

https://envirobites.org/2018/02/05/soybean-soybetter/

[Catoni]

Oh no.....not Gore Bull Warming Alarmism again....55555555555 ???? 

     Oh no...Sea Level Rise also ..

  The Following is: Evidence of Horrible Catastrophic Sea Level Rise 

https://youtu.be/9mjOmsqIibk

 La Jolla, California.... 1871:..about 148 years ago.... 
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/2c/5b/47/2c5b47b34248fafd909589ea87abc75a.jpg

La Jolla, California....  recently,   about 148 years later..Is It Underwater?     
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/da/090207-LaJollaCove.jpg/1200px-090207-LaJollaCove.jpg
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   Another spot in La Jolla.... 1894.. about 124 years ago..... 
https://i.pinimg.com/600x315/b7/b2/9d/b7b29d8d98c52c4a8b83947edc4cfe53.jpg

Same Spot Recently....Devastating Sea Level Rise 
https://www.facebook.com/lajollahistory/photos/a.10150751175496670/10156964541376670/?type=3&theater
Something fishy about this horrible sea level rise we're all experiencing..... 
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   Liberty Island, New York - 1898 
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/f0/86/c7/f086c710cb7572f908c55229b97e4c47.jpg

  Liberty Island These Days with horrible sea level rise 
https://p.motionelements.com/stock-video/architecture-buildings/me1986455-liberty-island-united-states-hd-a0005.jpg
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  Scary Sea Level Rise at Fort Denison, Australia Over the Years. We're Doomed ! 
https://cairnsnews.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/fort-dennison-sea-levels.jpg

Fort Denison data 'more accurate than satellite' on sea levels 

https://youtu.be/9mjOmsqIibk

[cooked]

2 hours ago, Trentham said:

Well to quote you.............."Why be difficult? With a bit of effort you could be bloody well impossible."

Fox news and a few other right leaning TV channels constantly spread b.s.

So you want to either abandon land that is only suitable for grazing or you want to treat it with chemicals and other processes to make it produce crops. Much of the land used for producing OGM crops is already on its way to being destroyed. Wheat, corn, soya...  these aren't foodstuffs for the Agro-Companies. , they're commodities to be traded with and denying that really IS BS.

[Krataiboy]

I don't give a fart about how many cows are threatening our lives by breaking wind. Most global warming is generated not by bovines but individuals and agencies using the myth of a climate apocalypse to justify seizing control of every aspect of our lives.

 

Under the UN's Agenda 21/30 so-called "Sustainable Development" programme rolling out worldwide, being deprived of meat will be the least of our concerns.

 

https://www.democratsagainstunagenda21.com/

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRybM76qx6I&t=26s

 

 

 

 

[DrTuner]

3 hours ago, soalbundy said:

people have stopped breeding like flies, it's becoming a demographic problem for places like Thailand and china as well as the EU, too many old age pensioners and soon not enough young workers to pay into the pension pot.

The growth is now mostly in Africa and India. Free birth control or better yet pay for people to get sterilized. Their birth rate is based on times when so many died young you had to have a couple dozen kids for a few to make it to adulthood. Not the case anymore but still breeding like rabbits.

 

There's an inherent problem with governments everywhere, each is relying on a ponzi scheme of the next generation being able to pay for the previous ones. Ain't going to work, next generations need to be smaller, the whole idea of eternal growth is doomed. Mankind must get used to both ups and downs and plan for both and keep the average sustainable.

[CharlieH]

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[Krataiboy]

2 hours ago, Krataiboy said:

I don't give a fart about how many cows are threatening our lives by breaking wind. Most global warming is generated not by bovines but individuals and agencies using the myth of a climate apocalypse to justify seizing control of every aspect of our lives.

 

Under the UN's Agenda 21/30 so-called "Sustainable Development" programme rolling out worldwide, being deprived of meat will be the least of our concerns.

 

https://www.democratsagainstunagenda21.com/

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRybM76qx6I&t=26s

 

 

 

 

In addition to the above-mentioned sources, any confused Forum members should look up the history of the Club of Rome' and their book, "The First Global Revolution", which discloses the origins and true nature of the climate change agenda.

[metisdead]

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[CharlieH]

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[JHolmesJr]

Today I bought some lovely prosciutto cotto ham and the sales staff tells me  I mustn't use a plastic bag....I gave him a withering look and said, Im on a cycle so would you prefer I carry it on my head. What a douche.

 

 

[albertik]

For all the experts out there......

What produces more methane? Meat based diets or veggi diets.  Legumes???  The musical fruit, the more you eat...the more you toot.

Oh and btw doing some research on menus for VIPs and the annual Davos summit. Seems as though a lot of animal based cheese is consumed there, as well as lamb and beef.

Now I would like to get more info on the menus featured at UN headquarters in New York.

 

[Thongkorn]

On 8/9/2019 at 7:36 AM, soalbundy said:

people have stopped breeding like flies, it's becoming a demographic problem for places like Thailand and china as well as the EU, too many old age pensioners and soon not enough young workers to pay into the pension pot.

Some People have stooped breading, Some of a Certain religion , The religion of peace have as many children with as many wives as possible to spread the Good word. Usually in Country's that need Famine relief, When a child dies all they say Is Gods will. Then Bang another out, The unfortunate thing is that they Out number the people with sense,

[mogandave]

39 minutes ago, Thongkorn said:

Some People have stooped breading, Some of a Certain religion , The religion of peace have as many children with as many wives as possible to spread the Good word. Usually in Country's that need Famine relief, When a child dies all they say Is Gods will. Then Bang another out, The unfortunate thing is that they Out number the people with sense,

Let's see, should I buy a condom or a bowl of rice for my starving kids....

 

That's a tough one.