Texas shooting suspect told police he targeted 'Mexicans'

[rooster59]

Texas shooting suspect told police he targeted 'Mexicans'

By Julio Cesar-Chavez

 

Flowers and candles are left at a memorial five days after a mass shooting at a Walmart store in El Paso, Texas, U.S. August 8, 2019. REUTERS/Callaghan O'Hare

 

EL PASO, Texas (Reuters) - The suspected gunman accused of killing 22 people in a shooting rampage at Walmart in El Paso, Texas last weekend confessed while surrendering and told police he was targeting "Mexicans," according to an El Paso police affidavit released on Friday.

 

The suspect, Patrick Crusius, 21, came out of his vehicle, stopped at an intersection, "and stated out loud 'I'm the shooter'", Detective Adrian Garcia said in the affidavit on Sunday, a day after the shooting.

 

Crusius has been charged with capital murder and is being held without bond.

 

The affidavit said Crusius waived his right to remain silent after he was taken into custody and told detectives he entered the Walmart with an AK47 and multiple magazines.

 

"The defendant stated his target (was) Mexicans," the affidavit said.

 

Crusius is accused of shooting and killing 22 people and wounding two dozen more on Saturday, shortly after a manifesto appeared online explaining his motivation and decrying a "Hispanic invasion" of the United States.

 

Most of those listed as dead had Hispanic names.

 

GUN CONTROL DEBATE

 

Just hours later, a gunman wearing body armor and a mask opened fire in a crowded neighborhood in Dayton, Ohio, killing nine people, including his own sister.

 

President Donald Trump visited both communities on Thursday and was met with chanting protesters who accused him of inflaming tensions with anti-immigrant and racially charged rhetoric.

 

Authorities said Crusius drove 11 hours from his hometown of Allen, Tex., near Dallas, to perpetrate a massacre in the predominantly Hispanic city of El Paso. Authorities say the mass shooting is being investigated as a hate crime and act of domestic terrorism.

 

Democratic presidential candidates have accused Trump of fanning racist, white nationalist sentiments with anti-immigrant, racially charged language at rallies and on Twitter. They said he has created political climate conducive to hate-based violence.

 

Trump suggested on Friday he could persuade the powerful National Rifle Association lobby group to drop its strong opposition to gun restrictions after recent mass shootings that have reignited the gun control debate.

 

Nearly half of all Americans believe another mass shooting in the United States is highly likely soon, according to a Reuters/Ipsos public opinion poll released on Friday.

 

White House officials and big social media companies met on Friday to talk about how to curb extremism online after the shootings but the White House declined to comment on who took part in the closed-door session.

 

(Reporting by Julio Cesar-Chave; additional reporting by Barbara Goldberg in New York; Editing by Bill Tarrant and Cynthia Osterman)

 

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[Samui Bodoh]

"...Texas shooting suspect told police he targeted 'Mexicans'..."

 

Just like Trump...

 

I have said it before and will say it again.

 

Donald Trump is an ever-expanding cloud of toxic waste that defiles everything it touches.

 

God help us all

 

 

[daoyai]

 Here we go again.  

 

  Not like Trump at all.

 

The prez. takes pride in the fact that Americans with Mexican heritage are enjoying the lowest unemployment. rate in history.

 

Just like the shooter has done, some people twist Trumps words to fuel their own hate.

[Bluespunk]

30 minutes ago, rooster59 said:

Trump suggested on Friday he could persuade the powerful National Rifle Association lobby group to drop its strong opposition to gun restrictions after recent mass shootings that have reignited the gun control debate.

Heard similar before from trump, told dems and republicans not to be afraid of challenging nra line on gun control I believe.

 

Then after meeting nra resistance to his “proposal”, he chose to act in a manner that reflected the nra’s line on gun control. 

 

https://edition-m.cnn.com/2018/02/26/politics/trump-lunch-nra-lapierre-cox/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F

 

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/3/12/17109798/trump-gun-control-proposal-betsy-devos-parkland-nra 

 

Certain the same will happen again. 

Edited August 9, 2019 by Bluespunk

[bendejo]

5 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

Heard this before from trump, then after meeting nra reps he did nothing. 

He does not speak to the NRA, they speak to HIM, and he has to listen.

All the NRA has to do is put out the word "he's coming for your guns!" like they did continuously for Obama. And every time they did the shelves of the stores selling arms would be bare within days.  Good times for the gun makers.  Funny how people who have troubles making ends meet can cough up $400+ for another gun.

 

There is a vid clip from one of DT's Apprentice-style cabinet meetings where they caught him saying "first we take the guns, THEN we do the due process."  Why isn't Fox screaming about that one?

I think DT should man up and allow (and encourage) people to open carry at his rallies.

 

 

[RJRS1301]

43 minutes ago, bendejo said:

He does not speak to the NRA, they speak to HIM, and he has to listen.

All the NRA has to do is put out the word "he's coming for your guns!" like they did continuously for Obama. And every time they did the shelves of the stores selling arms would be bare within days.  Good times for the gun makers.  Funny how people who have troubles making ends meet can cough up $400+ for another gun.

 

There is a vid clip from one of DT's Apprentice-style cabinet meetings where they caught him saying "first we take the guns, THEN we do the due process."  Why isn't Fox screaming about that one?

I think DT should man up and allow (and encourage) people to open carry at his rallies.

 

 

Strange that it mainly (not exclusively) the USA which has continued mass shootings,  what spurs this action by people who can buy these weapons?

Mental health is not the sole reason, it is a complex issue requiring intense investigation and a willingness to LISTEN on all sides of the debate.

 

[helloagain]

1 hour ago, Samui Bodoh said:

"...Texas shooting suspect told police he targeted 'Mexicans'..."

 

Just like Trump...

 

I have said it before and will say it again.

 

Donald Trump is an ever-expanding cloud of toxic waste that defiles everything it touches.

 

God help us all

 

 

Perhaps his Kardashian friend will get him off

[Chomper Higgot]

47 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said:

Strange that it mainly (not exclusively) the USA which has continued mass shootings,  what spurs this action by people who can buy these weapons?

Mental health is not the sole reason, it is a complex issue requiring intense investigation and a willingness to LISTEN on all sides of the debate.

 

You are conflating all mass shootings with this mass shooting that was politically motivated and targeted at Hispanic immigrants.

 

You are not the only one making this false  association.

 

This killer is a white supremicist following the pattern of targeted violence of other white supremicists.

 

His politically motivated violence is not the same thing as a kid shooting up his school or a disgruntled worker shooting up his place of work.

 

Don’t hide the violent white supremicist terrorism amongst other gun crimes.

 

 

Edited August 10, 2019 by Chomper Higgot

[bendejo]

Well well, seek and ye shall find!

 

If you're impatient jump to :40

 

If you're uncomfortable with Fox, go to youtube and type in

trump guns due process

 

 

 

 

[bendejo]

17 minutes ago, helloagain said:

Perhaps his Kardashian friend will get him off

Wrong color!  Kim only gets off black men. 

(disclosure: joke stolen from Bill Maher)

 

 

[ballpoint]

Trump poses with a baby orphaned by the shooting.  What a happy event 

[Captain_Bob]

"suspected gunman accused of killing" 

 

In what way is he a "suspect" and "accused"? 

The <deleted!> has fully confessed and seen by multiple witnesses at the scene committing those murders. While many of us (me) find the death penalty hugely unethical, there are exceptional cases. But now he'll just get a 2000-year jail sentence whereby US tax payers support his life of free food and bed inside four walls, while writing his upcoming best-selling book about killing Mexicans who "invaded" his white Christian nation. Yee haw!!! 

[jb61]

Trump is a Russian agent. Trump is a Russian agent.

Oh wait, that was already debunked and is now history.

 

Ok, what are we using now.

Trump is a white supremacist. Trump is a white supremacist.

[atyclb]

25 minutes ago, Captain_Bob said:

"suspected gunman accused of killing" 

 

In what way is he a "suspect" and "accused"? 

The mofo has fully confessed and seen by multiple witnesses at the scene committing those murders. While many of us (me) find the death penalty hugely unethical, there are exceptional cases. But now he'll just get a 2000-year jail sentence whereby US tax payers support his life of free food and bed inside four walls, while writing his upcoming best-selling book about killing Mexicans who "invaded" his white Christian nation. Yee haw!!! 

 

confessing and witnesses is not the same as pleading guilty. the law must be applied equally to all regardless of scenario.  there is a little known concept called "innocent until proven guilty in a court of law"

 

what country are you from?

Edited August 10, 2019 by atyclb

[atyclb]

6 minutes ago, jb61 said:

Trump is a Russian agent. Trump is a Russian agent.

Oh wait, that was already debunked and is now history.

 

Ok, what are we using now.

Trump is a white supremacist. Trump is a white supremacist.

 

 

i thought he was an orange supremacist 

[sukhumvitneon]

Trump is anti gun at heart.  He supported the Brady BIll and Handgun Control Inc. in the early 90s.

[Srikcir]

5 hours ago, daoyai said:

The prez. takes pride in the fact that Americans with Mexican heritage are enjoying the lowest unemployment. rate in history.

TRUMP: “African-American, Hispanic-American and Asian-American unemployment have all reached their lowest levels ever recorded.”

THE FACTS: What he’s not saying is that the unemployment rates for all three groups have gone up since reaching record low levels.

https://www.apnews.com/e1afa3f19a054540a7c34ca193bdd9ae

[Chomper Higgot]

41 minutes ago, jb61 said:

Trump is a Russian agent. Trump is a Russian agent.

Oh wait, that was already debunked and is now history.

 

Ok, what are we using now.

Trump is a white supremacist. Trump is a white supremacist.

Point one not debunked.

Point two in plain sight.

[spidermike007]

This is a defining moment for Trump. He can do the right thing, and the necessary thing, and strengthen background check laws, which are way overdue, but unpopular with this party, or he can sell out to the NRA lobby, and do nothing. Will he demonstrate leadership, or will he be a stooge for the lobbyists? Let's see if he really cares about the people. 

 

Let's make America great again was an effective campaign slogan. How about making America safe again?

Edited August 10, 2019 by spidermike007

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

This is a defining moment for Trump. He can do the right thing, and the necessary thing, and strengthen background check laws, which are way overdue, but unpopular with this party, or he can sell out to the NRA lobby, and do nothing. Will he demonstrate leadership, or will he be a stooge for the lobbyists? Let's see if he really cares about the people. 

He'll double down. 

 

[Jingthing]

43 minutes ago, sukhumvitneon said:

Trump is anti gun at heart.  He supported the Brady BIll and Handgun Control Inc. in the early 90s.

Yes, he is very big hearted. You can tell by how kind he is on twitter. It hardly matters what his various positions have been in the past. The guy changes positions in the middle of sentences! 

[Jingthing]

6 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

This is a defining moment for Trump. He can do the right thing, and the necessary thing, and strengthen background check laws, which are way overdue, but unpopular with this party, or he can sell out to the NRA lobby, and do nothing. Will he demonstrate leadership, or will he be a stooge for the lobbyists? Let's see if he really cares about the people. 

Even that is weak tea. What about reinstating the assault weapon ban that timed out before? The realistic goal isn't no mass shootings. The realistic goal is to reduce them greatly. I don't think background checks will be enough for that.

[spidermike007]

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

Even that is weak tea. What about reinstating the assault weapon ban that timed out before? The realistic goal isn't no mass shootings. The realistic goal is to reduce them greatly. I don't think background checks will be enough for that.

I completely agree. Assault rifles are not needed, by anyone other than a military force. For hunting? Keeping your house safe? It is all about the feeling of manliness that some guys feel, when they fondle their 17 weapon collection. 

[Jingthing]

1 hour ago, Captain_Bob said:

"suspected gunman accused of killing" 

 

In what way is he a "suspect" and "accused"? 

The mofo has fully confessed and seen by multiple witnesses at the scene committing those murders. While many of us (me) find the death penalty hugely unethical, there are exceptional cases. But now he'll just get a 2000-year jail sentence whereby US tax payers support his life of free food and bed inside four walls, while writing his upcoming best-selling book about killing Mexicans who "invaded" his white Christian nation. Yee haw!!! 

That's just the legal situation. Even people that have confessed and you have video of the crimes are technically not guilty until actually CONVICTED. 

[stevenl]

53 minutes ago, sukhumvitneon said:

Trump is anti gun at heart.  He supported the Brady BIll and Handgun Control Inc. in the early 90s.

Doesn't really matter what he is 'at heart', all her cares about are the poll numbers.

[Jingthing]

As El Paso was another case of white supremacist terrorism, it may be useful to consider this incident in the context of the growing threat of white supremacist hate crimes and terrorism. At this point in time since the election of the current occupant of the white house, white supremacist terrorism is now the most damaging kind in the U.S. followed by Islamist. It used to be Islamist was causing more damage. Why is that? Well I and many others think the racist xenophobic rhetoric of "trump" combined with a weak national effort at even naming, much less fighting white supremacist terrorism. If anything positive might come from El Paso, perhaps over time, especially if the current potus can be removed, then hopefully the fight against white supremacist terrorism can be beefed to a similar level of urgency as Islamist.

 

https://www.adl.org/new-hate-and-old

Quote

New Hate and Old: The Changing Face of American White Supremacy

 

https://forward.com/fast-forward/429227/white-supremacist-murder-charlottesville/

Quote

White Supremacists Committed At Least 73 Murders Since Charlottesville: ADL

 

Also important to keep in mind -- not ALL mass shootings are related to terrorism of any kind. Terrorist events are a SUBSET of all mass shooting. To fight against future mass shootings, terrorism must be considered but so must a number of other general aspects related to people getting GUNS. 

Edited August 10, 2019 by Jingthing

[atyclb]

it is a simple fact various hate/terror groups exist as well as extremely violent gangs.

 

it is no single politicians fault that they exist. part of human nature is having ideology, some good, some bad, some indifferent.

 

have any hate/ terror related mass shootings occur during the terms of presidents before trump ??

 

trump remarks about mexicans were directed at criminals.

[Sujo]

5 minutes ago, atyclb said:

it is a simple fact various hate/terror groups exist as well as extremely violent gangs.

 

it is no single politicians fault that they exist. part of human nature is having ideology, some good, some bad, some indifferent.

 

have any hate/ terror related mass shootings occur during the terms of presidents before trump ??

 

trump remarks about mexicans were directed at criminals.

No. They were directed at mexicans.

[Chomper Higgot]

9 minutes ago, atyclb said:

it is a simple fact various hate/terror groups exist as well as extremely violent gangs.

 

it is no single politicians fault that they exist. part of human nature is having ideology, some good, some bad, some indifferent.

 

have any hate/ terror related mass shootings occur during the terms of presidents before trump ??

 

trump remarks about mexicans were directed at criminals.

You are correct, racist and white supremacist groups existed before Trump, but I don’t recall any other US President race baiting, not do I recall any other racist mass killer parroting the words, terms and themes of any President other than Trump.

 

This President with his ‘good people on both sides’ when one side are neo-Nazis, and his language of ‘infestation’, ‘animals’..... directed at immigrants is fanning the flames of race hate and has emboldened white supremacist.

 

 

Edited August 10, 2019 by Chomper Higgot

[atyclb]

3 minutes ago, Sujo said:

9 minutes ago, atyclb said:

it is a simple fact various hate/terror groups exist as well as extremely violent gangs.

 

it is no single politicians fault that they exist. part of human nature is having ideology, some good, some bad, some indifferent.

 

have any hate/ terror related mass shootings occur during the terms of presidents before trump ??

 

trump remarks about mexicans were directed at criminals.

No. They were directed at mexicans.

 

criminal elements that are mexican. it is absurd to believe he meant all mexicans are criminals