Or perhaps it has already closed.

 

Have you noticed more staff than customers lately?

 

Is your favorite bar or restaurant struggling?

 

Can they hold out until high season?  Will there even be a high season? 

 

Have you spoken to the boss?  If so, what did he say?

 

 

 

 

4 minutes ago, Leaver said:

Or perhaps it has already closed.

 

Have you noticed more staff than customers lately?

 

Is your favorite bar or restaurant struggling?

 

Can they hold out until high season?  Will there even be a high season? 

 

Have you spoken to the boss?  If so, what did he say?

No, my local's doing just fine, thanks.

Most bars have more staff than customers, gogos probably 5-1.

had a businessman sit beside me this winter in a gogo in pattaya, he commented on how can these bars stay open, no customers in most, but they still remain open. I mentioned they are washing machines, he agreed. But buying a bar and living the dream has turned into a Stephen King movie for most.

 

Just now, Just Weird said:

No, my local's doing just fine, thanks.

Good to hear.  Will it be jammed in the future, as others close?

Just now, Leaver said:

Good to hear.  Will it be jammed in the future, as others close?

Who knows?  Prospects look good though as it is expanding it's operations.

4 minutes ago, Leaver said:

Have you spoken to the boss?  If so, what did he say?

 

Yes. I asked her just now if there was any Sato and cheese left in the fridge. She said yes and when that's gone we will get some more tomorrow. Number of customers the same. Just the two of us. Perfect.

1 minute ago, Ron jeremy said:

Most bars have more staff than customers, gogos probably 5-1.

had a businessman sit beside me this winter in a gogo in pattaya, he commented on how can these bars stay open, no customers in most, but they still remain open. I mentioned they are washing machines, he agreed. But buying a bar and living the dream has turned into a Stephen King movie for most.

 

I was thinking more along the lines of legitimate bars and restaurants, most likely bars and restaurant that offer good food and sport on TV, or other entertainment, not sex.

 

Just now, Denim said:

 

Yes. I asked her just now if there was any Sato and cheese left in the fridge. She said yes and when that's gone we will get some more tomorrow. Number of customers the same. Just the two of us. Perfect.

How long before the foreign sponsor withdraws sponsorship?

Tons of new restaurants and bars popping up in Bangkok all the time, all full.

What differentiates them from the old ones who sometimes close is that they are of higher quality it seems.

Just now, ThomasThBKK said:

Tons of new restaurants and bars popping up in Bangkok all the time, all full.

What differentiates them from the old ones who sometimes close is that they are of higher quality it seems.

Great. 

 

Did you notice I started this thread in the Pattaya Forum?

1 minute ago, Leaver said:

How long before the foreign sponsor withdraws sponsorship?

I have no plans to sell the fridge or make the wife redundant.

1 minute ago, Denim said:

I have no plans to sell the fridge or make the wife redundant.

Maybe she has plans to resign.  There's always someone with a better fridge.   ????

Seriously guys, is there no concern for the establishments you frequent?

 

I know I have seen a few of my favorite places really struggling, to the point I would not be surprised to see their doors closed soon.

 

A few of these are well established and nice places, that did have regular, and repeat clientele.

 

Good food.  Pleasant staff.  Nice environment. Cold beer.  All the sport on.  I will miss them, if / when they close. 

No. No concern.

 

There will always be another.

6 minutes ago, Leaver said:

Maybe she has plans to resign.  There's always someone with a better fridge.   ????

True. They will be needing a bigger house to put it in too and be willing to chauffeur the MIL around looking for meds and trips to the hospital.

Just now, Jip99 said:

No. No concern.

 

There will always be another.

How can you be so sure?

 

There doesn't seem to be the next wave of fools coming through.  ????

4 minutes ago, Leaver said:

How can you be so sure?

 

There doesn't seem to be the next wave of fools coming through.  ????

 

 

Trust me........... they are out there! ????

24 minutes ago, Leaver said:

I was thinking more along the lines of legitimate bars and restaurants, most likely bars and restaurant that offer good food and sport on TV, or other entertainment, not sex.

 

I was also talking about these same establishments. 

1 minute ago, Ron jeremy said:

I was also talking about these same establishments. 

I can think of better ways to wash money.

L o w

 

s. e. a. s. o. n. spelt slowly for the dummies

7 minutes ago, madmen said:

L o w

 

s. e. a. s. o. n. spelt slowly for the dummies

I think there will be no more high season. 

 

The peak season will still exist, but the more lengthy high season has gone.

 

Replaced by bus loads of none spending Chinese and Indians, all year around.

4 minutes ago, Leaver said:

I think there will be no more high season. 

 

The peak season will still exist, but the more lengthy high season has gone.

 

Replaced by bus loads of none spending Chinese and Indians.

I think its fair to say you started the thread with an agenda ?

 

A well run bar will be fine, you can spot them a mile off. As for restaurants word of mouth is huge here and will always be rammed until the chef does one!

 

 

I just came back from 3 weeks in Thailand.  The Domicile Austrian restaurant has closed on second road in Pattaya and a smaller version of itself is next to it.  The Thai fellow that spoke German now works at the Brauhaus next door.  The wiener schnitzel at the Domicile used be great with fried potatoes and salat.  Things change.

 

PapaGayos was literally empty at all hours.  That place used to rock and be a great place for late night stop ins

The bar/restaurant that I like has just added an extra dining room and replaced the bar. Business is fine from the looks of things. A big Leo is the same price as 2 years ago. How do they manage that?

35 minutes ago, Leaver said:

Maybe she has plans to resign.  There's always someone with a better fridge.   ????

 

 Enter , new farlang , money more .555

 

1 minute ago, Handsome Gardener said:

I think its fair to say you started the thread with an agenda ?

 

A well run bar will be fine, you can spot them a mile off. As for restaurants word of mouth is huge here and will always be rammed until the chef does one!

 

 

No agenda.

 

One favorite place of mine has been very quiet lately, and I mean, very quiet.  Actually, has been for some time, despite no change in prices or quality of service.

 

This is a well established, around 15 years, or more, bar restaurant, with legitimate staff. 

 

It has always had repeat tourist clientele, as well as constant expat support. 

 

It's not a small establishment, and is in a good location, so rent must be huge. 

 

The boss is a good businessman, and good communicator, not a drunken pimp. 

 

If business continues as it has been, through no fault of his, I can't see it being sustainable, and it will close. 

 

 

20 minutes ago, Jip99 said:

 

 

Trust me........... they are out there! ????

 

 May i suggest , you check arrivals at swampy ,  new stock , money more..

7 minutes ago, gk10002000 said:

I just came back from 3 weeks in Thailand.  The Domicile Austrian restaurant has closed on second road in Pattaya and a smaller version of itself is next to it.  The Thai fellow that spoke German now works at the Brauhaus next door.  The wiener schnitzel at the Domicile used be great with fried potatoes and salat.  Things change.

 

PapaGayos was literally empty at all hours.  That place used to rock and be a great place for late night stop ins

Thanks for your example.

 

Not that I went there much, but there was a thread about The Pig and Whistle, also.

 

Will we be seeing more closures in the near future?

8 minutes ago, champers said:

The bar/restaurant that I like has just added an extra dining room and replaced the bar. Business is fine from the looks of things. A big Leo is the same price as 2 years ago. How do they manage that?

Good point, and something I have considered.

 

Basically, do the bigger establishments thrive, whilst smaller struggling establishments close their doors, and sooner or later, we are all frequenting just a handful of establishments?  A mini globalization, if you will.

1 minute ago, Leaver said:

Thanks for your example.

 

Not that I went there much, but there was a thread about The Pig and Whistle, also.

 

Will we be seeing more closures in the near future?

The Pig and Whistle in Jomtien is going strong, same menu as Soi 7. Went this evening for a very nice liver, bacon and onions with 3 veg and roast taters. Lovely.