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     In the current debate among expats of "stay or leave", there is one topic which I have not seen mentioned at all: Cultural Marxism (CM).  It is a hidden factor and impossible to quantify, so difficult to discuss and even to think about.  But it is well on the way to affecting all Western expats here.  Even the recent dust-up about TM.30 reporting has an element of Cultural Marxism to it.

     Cultural Marxism means all values are being turned upside down, inside-out, and backwards.  Name any: importance of the family, avoiding debt, responsible sexual behavior, the value of a good education.  In The West, all that is quickly being destroyed.  Here, too, it is happening, just delayed.

     The perversions of Cultural Marxism will affect expat life here in future years even more than exchange rates of the baht or pronouncements of government officials.  For expats from The West, it is getting less pleasant every year.

     Expats here only a year or two probably won't notice the incoming tide of CM.  Those here a decade or more, certainly will notice.  And none of us will like it.  I'm not leaving, but it is a hidden reason motivating many who are or already have left Thailand.  They don’t want to mention it, don’t want to think about it.  So much easier to point to exchange rates, bar fines, and cost of living increases.  But in the realm of public culture and social values, all of it is polluted by Cultural Marxism: movies, television, English-language newspapers, public manners, all formal education.  I can think of no exceptions.

     Looking ahead just 5-10 years, I see:

1. Increased "security" interventions: more cameras, more inspections at train stations and malls, more requirements for documentation when renting house or condo.

2. Fewer smiles and increased rudeness from "service" staff in shops, restaurants, hotels, and government agencies.  Females are always the first to adopt Cultural Marxism, so that is where we expats will notice it first.

3. Attacks, actual physical attacks, on older, white, men.  Cultural Marxism encourages this in our "homeland" countries, and the locals here, without understanding why, will imitate.

4. Far less interest from local females in connecting with a farang boyfriend or husband.  White men are facing reduced status in The West, and here the locals will imitate that behavior, again without understanding why.

     For myself, I am already taking precautions to adapt to the inevitable.  A few examples:  I've moved out of a concentrated farang area (Bangkok lower Sukhumvit) to the suburbs.  No wife, so I’ve hired "helpers" to go with me grocery shopping and other errands.  I don't need them at all, but they are subtle body-guards against locals who see a lone farang.  And I've stopped going out to certain places I used to enjoy, in order to avoid any problems.  Life here is still very good, but incoming Cultural Marxism requires adjustments.

     If any readers here are interested in exchange of ideas about the rise of Cultural Marxism and how that affects expat life, I welcome private messages.    (Note: If you send a private message to me, but find it “blocked” by my ignore list, please post about that in this thread and I’ll un-block you.  My ignore list is well over 500 names, and likely I’ve made a few mistakes.)

     For those wanting more about Cultural Marxism, here just a few sources:
https://www.henrymakow.com/2019/08/CIA-Manufactued-Modern-US-Literature.html
http://www.returnofkings.com/70369/5-questions-to-identify-who-really-rules-over-you
https://nationalvanguard.org/2017/01/voltaire-didnt-say-it/
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You forgot to mention the change to a society where person to person interaction is kept to a very minimum due to the increase in technology and the expansion of institutions and bureaucracy.

Society is being engineered so people don't trust each other without the involvement of 3rd parties and more. All this type of thing is highly relevant and spreads to the drive away from cash etc etc.

1 hour ago, cmsally said:

change to a society where person to person interaction is kept to a very minimum due to the increase in technology and the expansion of institutions and bureaucracy. ... All this type of thing is highly relevant and spreads to the drive away from cash etc etc.

 

Valuable observation.  Thank you.

The OP is promoting a vile paranoid conspiracy theory. To verify this simply do a cursory check on the links he has supplied.

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37 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

a vile paranoid conspiracy theory.

 

Exactly.

 

 

Very sad to see Western Civilization being "suicided" in this way.   If it was confined to back in the "homeland" countries, I wouldn't mind so much.  But now it's flooding in here.  There is no stopping it.

1 minute ago, RLAretired said:

Very sad to see Western Civilization being "suicided" in this way.   If it was confined to back in the "homeland" countries, I wouldn't mind so much.  But now it's flooding in here.  There is no stopping it.

My personal recipe to avoid "cultural Marxism"

1. Nothing labelled "gluten free"
2. Nothing labelled "organic"
3. No "soy" anything
4. No "almond" (or similar) "milk"
5. Nothing without independent evidence

55 minutes ago, RLAretired said:

I’ve hired "helpers" to go with me grocery shopping and other errands.  I don't need them at all, but they are subtle body-guards against locals who see a lone farang.

I think this says all that needs to be said.

Gold shops seem to be open season now for armed robberies...never happened befor, the sneaky stealing is now turning to outright violent crime...kidnappings will be the next to happen.

1 minute ago, timendres said:

I think this says all that needs to be said.

 

Yes, it has been a very useful tactic.  No wife, so sometimes I do errands alone, sometimes with the girl-friend, other times my regular taxi driver comes in to the store with me (eg. Thai Watsadu, Global House, etc.)  I've been surprised at the difference in attitude from staff with a Thai person along compared to myself alone.

 

 

And at Immigration or Land Transport, a huge difference between going alone compared to having a Thai "guide".

 

Years ago it was different.  Big smiles everywhere.  No longer.  And I expect that trend to get worse.

 

 

1 hour ago, RLAretired said:

3. Attacks, actual physical attacks, on older, white, men.  Cultural Marxism encourages this in our "homeland" countries, and the locals here, without understanding why, will imitate.

4. Far less interest from local females in connecting with a farang boyfriend or husband.  White men are facing reduced status in The West, and here the locals will imitate that behavior, again without understanding why.

Hmmm...this is more of an "Angry White Man" syndrome than any sort of Cultural Marxism.  By the way, I see very little evidence of these things in Thailand. 

8 minutes ago, baansgr said:

Gold shops seem to be open season now for armed robberies...never happened befor, the sneaky stealing is now turning to outright violent crime...kidnappings will be the next to happen.

Kidnappings in Thailand have already happened, or do you not read the news? Armed robberies are nothing new. Do you know what increases these events? Hint: it is not Cultural Marxism.

9 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

Hmmm...this is more of an "Angry White Man" syndrome than any sort of Cultural Marxism.  By the way, I see very little evidence of these things in Thailand. 

Yes, also the incel ideology. Alt-right loony tunes as well. 

Directly linked to a number of white nationalist mass shootings in the U.S.

Do we need this dark, destructive, very sick, very misogynist bizarro world conspiracy theory GARBAGE here?

1 hour ago, RLAretired said:

For those wanting more about Cultural Marxism, here just a few sources:

As far as I can see Cultural Marxism demands the mixing of races and cultural homogenisation along with easy citizenship.

What's happening in Thailand is completely the opposite.

Do they make meds for extreme paranoia ?  

1 hour ago, RLAretired said:

For those wanting more about Cultural Marxism, here just a few sources:

And after that we all woke up and understood. It was all a bad dream.

I think the premise of the OP is a total sham.

It's not really about Thailand. The Thailand angle was introduced as a weak tea justification for promoting an extremely SICK sociopolitical ideology on the forum. Again -- the very same ideology directly linked to multiple mass shootings in the U.S. 

Oh, we're all doomed. Sky is falling. Society is crumbling everywhere. Puh-lease! Yes things are changing, but they always have and always will.

I thought Marxists were all about open borders, globalism and the destruction of the nation state. Honestly we'd probably all benefit from a shot of loony leftism injected into the government here, as immigrants.

I agree somewhat, I was never really a Richard Marx fan either! ????

 

 

 

1 hour ago, RLAretired said:

  Looking ahead just 5-10 years, I see:

1. Increased "security" interventions: more cameras, more inspections at train stations and malls, more requirements for documentation when renting house or condo.

2. Fewer smiles and increased rudeness from "service" staff in shops, restaurants, hotels, and government agencies.  Females are always the first to adopt Cultural Marxism, so that is where we expats will notice it first.

3. Attacks, actual physical attacks, on older, white, men.  Cultural Marxism encourages this in our "homeland" countries, and the locals here, without understanding why, will imitate.

4. Far less interest from local females in connecting with a farang boyfriend or husband.  White men are facing reduced status in The West, and here the locals will imitate that behavior, again without understanding why.

Don't really need to look ahead because looking back over the last 20 years I can see all these things especially number 4 since I've cut back on giving the misses bucket loads of money I've noticed a distinct lack of interest accept when she needs something done or help with something (about every 5 minutes) just trying to see where cultural marxism fits in and where the misses might have been influenced by it let alone understand the concept?

1 hour ago, 4MyEgo said:

Did I mention that my late father named his 3 sons, Lenin, Engel and Marx, yep, true story ????

 

Which one are You ??  ????

6 minutes ago, thequietman said:

Which one are You ??  ????

I am the 4th, Erectus, The God of Pleasure or Pain, depending on how she wants to look at it ????

 

I just managed to get to TOPS and back with a two liter carton of milk and some bread. 

 

Looks like I was lucky to escape unscathed from such a potentially perilous adventure. 

 

Rooster

1 hour ago, RLAretired said:

Cultural Marxism means all values are being turned upside down, inside-out, and backwards.  Name any: importance of the family, avoiding debt, responsible sexual behavior, the value of a good education.  In The West, all that is quickly being destroyed.  Here, too, it is happening, just delayed.

You have parts of the puzzle, but like a old mosiac, many pieces are missing

 

 

One of the most common fallacies among Expat intellectuals is to believe that the more stubborn they are about their skepticism the more pure their intellectual objectivity. That is the reason why the simple facts frequently fail to get through. Another resort of the cheap shot variety, which has its admirers (and among them, for the art of it, me) is to sarcastically render a sort of psycho-babble mockery of the text as if by carelessly dismissing the points being made you have defeated the argument. Fun, but just stupid.

 

Thomas Mann speaking of the English in the appeasement era of Hitler wrote, "surely we are culpable having believed all their pewwing about the brothers. We could not credit the prospect of such heaped up knavery and manuveuring. It was never a question of the Brexit, or council flats but of the Skoda works, Czech oil, Hungarian grain".

 

Oh dear, the once mythical white man has issues that he lost his undeserved higher rank in society.

Put me on your ignore list too please

The meek are finding ways to inherit the earth. You can see it happening - put on BBC news and there will very likely be a female anchor talking to a female reporter interviewing females about issues arising from hurt feelings. Sometimes they are all from ethnic minorities. Every day they run 'news' stories about people apologising for this and that. It's blatant social engineering.

 

The movie industry has long been used to promote meekness, from the kindly presentation of Jews in early Hollywood, through Disney's default support of the underdog, to today's token inclusivity of all minority groups.

Is any of this a bad thing? Not necessarily, unless the existing culture is being attacked and forcibly replaced by outsiders seeking to erode that culture in order to keep themselves in their own comfort zone. Unfortunately that is actually happening in the west. And unfortunately that will produce self-declared 'defenders of culture' like Breivik, who was obsessed by Cultural Marxism.

 

I don't see much Cultural Marxism in Thailand, which in any case is in the grip of a right-wing government which, as we can see, is taking steps to prevent the erosion of local culture by keeping tight control on the freedoms of foreigners. Perhaps Thai men are getting fed up losing their women to foreigners, but that's nothing to do with Cultural Marxism.

 

4 minutes ago, JamesBlond said:

The meek are finding ways to inherit the earth. You can see it happening - put on BBC news and there will very likely be a female anchor talking to a female reporter interviewing females about issues arising from hurt feelings. Sometimes they are all from ethnic minorities. Every day they run 'news' stories about people apologising for this and that. It's blatant social engineering.

 

The movie industry has long been used to promote meekness, from the kindly presentation of Jews in early Hollywood, through Disney's default support of the underdog, to today's token inclusivity of all minority groups.

Is any of this a bad thing? Not necessarily, unless the existing culture is being attacked and forcibly replaced by outsiders seeking to erode that culture in order to keep themselves in their own comfort zone. Unfortunately that is actually happening in the west. And unfortunately that will produce self-declared 'defenders of culture' like Breivik, who was obsessed by Cultural Marxism.

 

I don't see much Cultural Marxism in Thailand, which in any case is in the grip of a right-wing government which, as we can see, is taking steps to prevent the erosion of local culture by keeping tight control on the freedoms of foreigners. Perhaps Thai men are getting fed up losing their women to foreigners, but that's nothing to do with Cultural Marxism.

 

That just about sums it for me also fella.

Too many bleeding hearts in this world and I personaly, have run out of bandages.

55 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

I am the 4th, Erectus, The God of Pleasure or Pain, depending on how she wants to look at it ????

 

Erectus is the fifth son. Before that was Dickus. I suspect that's you. ????

24 minutes ago, JamesBlond said:

The meek are finding ways to inherit the earth. You can see it happening - put on BBC news and there will very likely be a female anchor talking to a female reporter interviewing females about issues arising from hurt feelings. Sometimes they are all from ethnic minorities. Every day they run 'news' stories about people apologising for this and that. It's blatant social engineering.

 

The movie industry has long been used to promote meekness, from the kindly presentation of Jews in early Hollywood, through Disney's default support of the underdog, to today's token inclusivity of all minority groups.

Is any of this a bad thing? Not necessarily, unless the existing culture is being attacked and forcibly replaced by outsiders seeking to erode that culture in order to keep themselves in their own comfort zone. Unfortunately that is actually happening in the west. And unfortunately that will produce self-declared 'defenders of culture' like Breivik, who was obsessed by Cultural Marxism.

 

I don't see much Cultural Marxism in Thailand, which in any case is in the grip of a right-wing government which, as we can see, is taking steps to prevent the erosion of local culture by keeping tight control on the freedoms of foreigners. Perhaps Thai men are getting fed up losing their women to foreigners, but that's nothing to do with Cultural Marxism.

 

This sounds suspiciously very similar to the rhetoric of the white supremacists and Nazis in the USA. At Charlottesville they chanted -- Jews will not replace us. At the Pittsburgh synagogue the shooter's motivation was to kill "liberal" Jews that were supporting humanitarian efforts to help Latino refugees. The above post -- read it carefully. The mass murderer in El Paso would be very comfortable with the above rhetoric. The above attempts to sound reasonable as a propaganda tactic. Don't be fooled. it's  the same disease of extremely dangerous white nationalist hatred we're seeing the U.S. and many other nations. 

14 minutes ago, sherwood said:

That just about sums it for me also fella.

Too many bleeding hearts in this world and I personaly, have run out of bandages.

The open support for white supremacist propaganda shouldn't shock us anymore.