UK election must not delay Brexit from October 31 - Javid

[Thairealist]

3 hours ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

100 of thousands of young people are registering to vote and Labour/LibDems are running a huge campaign to get them. GAME ON. 

 

https://www.gov.uk/performance/register-to-vote/registrations-by-age-group

Click to sort	Under 25Click to sort	25 to 34Click to sort	35 to 44Click to sort	45 to 54Click to sort	55 to 64Click to sort	65 to 74Click to sort	Over 75Click to sort
7 Aug 2019	5,446	7,282	4,264	2,763	2,033	1,224	715
8 Aug 2019	5,298	6,872	4,012	2,578	1,912	1,176	721
9 Aug 2019	5,537	6,794	4,165	2,836	2,181	1,560	901
10 Aug 2019	3,603	4,703	2,559	1,533	1,031	599	309
11 Aug 2019	3,461	4,690	2,411	1,506	896	467	231
12 Aug 2019	6,783	8,852	5,081	3,361	2,344	1,425	851
13 Aug 2019	5,826	7,965	4,400	2,934	2,058	1,183	732
14 Aug 2019	5,624	7,350	4,213	2,909	2,015	1,327	743
15 Aug 2019	5,731	6,488	3,809	2,641	2,031	1,250	731
16 Aug 2019	5,071	5,682	3,438	2,336	1,825	1,125	680
17 Aug 2019	3,202	3,728	2,101	1,324	785	427	229
18 Aug 2019	3,359	4,249	2,162	1,306	769	382	203
19 Aug 2019	7,219	9,199	5,250	3,393	2,427	1,417	828
20 Aug 2019	6,729	8,377	4,728	3,209	2,407	1,518	892
21 Aug 2019	6,824	7,792	4,648	3,201	2,326	1,493	923
22 Aug 2019	6,061	6,661	3,927	2,864	2,130	1,392	933
23 Aug 2019	5,716	6,174	3,714	2,577	2,016	1,332	818
24 Aug 2019	3,041	3,550	1,975	1,168	761	444	237
25 Aug 2019	2,279	2,792	1,483	920	611	304	160
26 Aug 2019	3,256	4,159	2,247	1,373	866	415	238
27 Aug 2019	8,658	10,379	5,900	3,940	2,714	1,697	934
28 Aug 2019	9,847	10,710	6,402	4,276	3,027	1,960	1,156
29 Aug 2019	9,053	9,099	5,565	4,015	3,073	2,050	1,280
30 Aug 2019	7,118	7,379	4,605	3,359	2,382	1,579	1,025
31 Aug 2019	4,407	5,227	3,001	1,811	1,158	599	335
1 Sep 2019	4,747	5,544	2,906	1,679	1,018	474	272
2 Sep 2019	14,046	16,279	8,880	5,750	3,914	2,258	1,281
3 Sep 2019	17,467	19,838	10,823	6,766	4,865	3,007	1,719
4 Sep 2019	24,212	25,960	13,550	8,191	5,509	3,234	1,786
5 Sep 2019	17,378	18,466	10,435	6,994	4,802	2,979	1,607

 

If this is the case, why are Labour-and the other opposition parties afraid of a General Election?

[beautifulthailand99]

1 minute ago, Thairealist said:

 

If this is the case, why are Labour-and the other opposition parties afraid of a General Election?

Not afraid, it will come in November at a time of their choosing - not his. And blow up his October 31st do or die pledge. Plus let the electorate know exactly what this towering babble of towering piffle that everybody who knows him well knows him to be. 

 

"If the Johnson family had stuck to showbusiness like the Osmonds, Marx Brothers or von Trapp family, the world would be a better place. Yet the Tories, in their terror, have elevated a cavorting charlatan to the steps of Downing Street, and they should expect to pay a full forfeit when voters get the message. If the price of Johnson proves to be Corbyn, blame will rest with the Conservative party, which is about to foist a tasteless joke upon the British people – who will not find it funny for long."

 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jun/24/boris-johnson-prime-minister-tory-party-britain

[Bluespunk]

2 minutes ago, Thairealist said:

 

If this is the case, why are Labour-and the other opposition parties afraid of a General Election?

They’re not. 

 

They just don't trust a compulsive liar such as johnson. 

 

The bill preventing a no deal will be passed by the lords on Monday. 

 

Once thats done and an extension is in place, if a deal is not passed by October 31st, then johnson can have an election. 

[bangrak]

15 minutes ago, Thairealist said:

 

What I find amazing, is that you think the votes of 432 civil servants in the guise of M.P,s are more important than the votes of 17,400,000+ citizens of your own country.

Can you remind us how many members of a single political party (let me help you: the Conservative) were 'entrusted' to make the choice of Britain's next PM, and the number that went for BoJo, just to 'relativate' the mass of your 17.4 millions, you know...

As this is the first time I reply to a reaction of yours, may I congratulate you with the abscon, the Marx Brothers worthy, name you picked, not being very litterate in English, I can't just now find the word commonly used for this, I miss the three first letters, what follows is '-moron', maybe you will now, Thai and realist, in one word, being a tolerated Farang, that'd be 50 with one dart!   

Edited September 6, 2019 by bangrak

[vogie]

28 minutes ago, bangrak said:

Please, 'vogie', do stop writing about 'deflection', being 'rumbled', not being able to 'face facts'! When these, together with insultant trash being thrown at people having an opinion of their own(!), different from some rattlers' acquired one, would be prohibited, at last on TV, I guess you would be among the first ones we would be delivered of here!

If you have a problem with any post can I suggest you report it to the mods and not discuss it on here, this is a forum for discussion and not for you to bait other members, thanks.

[beautifulthailand99]

22 hours ago, Loiner said:

More of a servile crawling apologist I would have thought. There will be a few more twists and turns before 31st October.
I hope Malagateddy is getting the beers in.

Malagateddy seems to have disappeared now that my 2k bet is nearing completion. I have another rollover bet if he is interested ?

[Slip]

1 hour ago, Thairealist said:

 

If this is the case, why are Labour-and the other opposition parties afraid of a General Election?

Simply put, they are not.  They don't trust the Tories not to pull a last minute stunt (like declaring a no confidence vote in their own administration for example, or proroguing parliament to stifle debate and legislation perish the thought).

With apologies to Bluespunk who made the same point an hour ago.

Edited September 6, 2019 by Slip

[beautifulthailand99]

New balls please....and let's not forget who is bankrolling this madness. #nofriendoftheworkingclass #forthefewnotthemany

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/financial-services/marshall-wace-prepares-for-brexit-with-dublin-expansion-1.3694873

 

 

Edited September 6, 2019 by beautifulthailand99

[DannyCarlton]

2 hours ago, vogie said:

If you have a problem with any post can I suggest you report it to the mods and not discuss it on here, this is a forum for discussion and not for you to bait other members, thanks.

Since when has that stopped you? You accuse various remainers of having multiple accounts, every time you lose a debate. Hypocracy or what?

[Loiner]

What on earth are you talking about, are you OK, are you alone...?

I think not allowed out without his carer.

[beautifulthailand99]

Hundreds of EU trash myths busted....but pesky facts eh......democratic will of the peeple and all that...

 

https://blogs.ec.europa.eu/ECintheUK/euromyths-a-z-index/

Edited September 6, 2019 by beautifulthailand99

[beautifulthailand99]

45 minutes ago, Loiner said:

 

I think not allowed out without his carer.

 

I'm here and bust with my fingers......but wifey is back ????

[billd766]

13 hours ago, cleopatra2 said:

There is over 50 known members of the ERG

And how many voted against the government.

 

 

[DannyCarlton]

1 minute ago, billd766 said:

And how many voted against the government.

 

 

Enough. That's why May's deal didn't pass.

[billd766]

13 hours ago, joecoolfrog said:

Just as with the media , one has to read between the lines and ignore any blatant bias. No poll has suggested majority support for no deal and the comprehensive , transparent poll by the strongly Tory , brexit supporting , Daily Mail showed no deal to be extremely unpopular. In the absence of any evidence to the contrary is to logical to accept what is presented.

Have you anything , other than personal desire, that shows the contrary to be true.

I have always supported Brexit ( not that I agreed with it ) but because I felt the referendum should be honoured.

I cannot support a no deal though as I dont think there ever was , or is , a mandate for such.

I have nothing to show either way because over the past 3 years certainly for every poll that says this, you always find one that says the opposite.

From what I remember there was a simple Leave or Remain option on the referendum. There were no hard, soft, BRINO, no deals offered as the referendum by David Cameron through arrogance and ignorance because he "knew" that he would win and got the fright of his life when he lost.

 

I voted to leave and I want the result of that referendum honoured before a GE and/or another referendum, but it needs a year or two to see what happens after Brexit. IMHO if it is not honoured then how can we have another one?

 

13 hours ago, joecoolfrog said:

Bill you know very well that you are simply being pedantic , there were a number of MPs allied to the group.

Water under the bridge now , they gambled for a ( supposedly ) better deal , they lost.

When Mrs May's deal was voted down I said that the Brexiters would never accept blame if it all went tits up , seems im psychic, must start playing the lotto.

I was not being pedantic but looking for a link to verify what and who the ERG do and are. So many people post on these threads so much rubbish with nothing to back it up with.

I knew a little about the ERG but enough to feel confident in posting about.

The psot I replied to blamed the ERG for the failure to pass the AW, but Labour, the SNP, the Lib/Dems and the Greens also voted against the bill.

[StreetCowboy]

Just now, kingdong said:

One thing you got right,the end is nigh,how's Boris going to get a deal with both hands tied behind his back? Remained wanted a people's vote,Boris offered you a general election,you bottled it,well ,well done you,be succeeded where the Luftwaffe failed you,ve destroyed britain.

I blame the guys that blocked the Government’s deal in Parliament

[kingdong]

7 hours ago, DannyCarlton said:

Enough. That's why May's deal didn't pass.

Deal ? Don,t you mean scheme? 

[Slip]

12 minutes ago, kingdong said:

One thing you got right,the end is nigh,how's Boris going to get a deal with both hands tied behind his back? Remained wanted a people's vote,Boris offered you a general election,you bottled it,well ,well done you,be succeeded where the Luftwaffe failed you,ve destroyed britain.

More frothing.

[tomazbodner]

So new official definition of Brexit might soon become:

 

Brexit - Threatening to leave, pretending to negotiate, presenting known unacceptable proposals, pretending to vote on them, but really wanting to stay.

 

Example: Mary threatened to leave John, pretended to negotiate settlement, but really only presenting proposals in which John has to give her everything he owns and earns in his entire life. Pretending to think over John's counter-offers and deciding not to accept any, she really did not want to leave anyway...

[kingdong]

19 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

18 hours ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

New balls please....and let's not forget who is bankrolling this madness. #nofriendoftheworkingclass #forthefewnotthemany

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/financial-services/marshall-wace-prepares-for-brexit-with-dublin-expansion-1.3694873

 

 

 

 

They just don't trust a compulsive liar such as johnson. 

 

The bill preventing a no deal will be passed by the lords on Monday. 

 

Once thats done and an extension is in place, if a deal is not passed by October 31st, then johnson can have an election. 

And the Eu is the friend of the indigenous British working man?

[kingdong]

1 minute ago, tomazbodner said:

So new official definition of Brexit might soon become:

 

Brexit - Threatening to leave, pretending to negotiate, presenting known unacceptable proposals, pretending to vote on them, but really wanting to stay.

 

Example: Mary threatened to leave John, pretended to negotiate settlement, but really only presenting proposals in which John has to give her everything he owns and earns in his entire life. Pretending to think over John's counter-offers and deciding not to accept any, she really did not want to leave anyway...

May was a staunch remainer who had no intention of leaving.

[kingdong]

12 minutes ago, Slip said:

More frothing.

Hark at her

[Bluespunk]

4 minutes ago, kingdong said:

And the Eu is the friend of the indigenous British working man?

What’s that got to do with my post?

[kingdong]

16 hours ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

Hundreds of EU trash myths busted....but pesky facts eh......democratic will of the peeple and all that...

 

https://blogs.ec.europa.eu/ECintheUK/euromyths-a-z-index/

Project fear

[Slip]

2 minutes ago, kingdong said:

And the Eu is the friend of the indigenous British working man?

A far better friend than BJ, Cummings, Farage et al.  The tories and their forebearers and hangers on have been busily shafting the indigenous Brit working man and woman for hundreds of years.  Do you think they are suddenly likely to stop now for some reason?

[kingdong]

3 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

What’s that got to do with my post?

Forgotten what you,be posted already? Look back through your links.

[Bluespunk]

Just now, kingdong said:

Forgotten what you,be posted already? Look back through your links.

Nope, because I didn’t post anything to do with the “working man”.

 

Nor did I post the link you included when you quoted me. 

 

Might want to do a bit of looking back yourself. 

Edited September 7, 2019 by Bluespunk

[kingdong]

5 minutes ago, Slip said:

A far better friend than BJ, Cummings, Farage et al.  The tories and their forebearers and hangers on have been busily shafting the indigenous Brit working man and woman for hundreds of years.  Do you think they are suddenly likely to stop now for some reason?

3 million euros citizens in the uk,competing for and undercutting wages and working conditions of the indigenous British working man,I note there's not 3 million brits.in the Eu what does that tell you?

[kingdong]

5 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

Nope, because I didn’t post anything to do with the “working man”.

 

Nor did I post the link you included when you quoted me. 

 

Might want to do a bit of looking back yourself. 

Should have gone to spec savers

[Bluespunk]

1 minute ago, kingdong said:

Should have gone to spec savers

I’m assuming that’s a reference to yourself. 

Edited September 7, 2019 by Bluespunk