2 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

Does it tell me idea travel will double or reduce my individual footprint? 

 

Because the research i have done into this clearly supports the latter. 

Well then, you know more then me, and surely every little thing helps.

I don't think individual choices matter a lot in the big picture, but something is better than nothing.

23 minutes ago, chokrai said:

She is just a mouth piece of her commie parents.

 

Wow dude that’s just crass

2 minutes ago, mauGR1 said:

Well then, you know more then me, and surely every little thing helps.

I don't think individual choices matter a lot in the big picture, but something is better than nothing.

Well, it wasn’t me questioning my choice but another poster for whatever reason. 

 

Individual choices for me matter, if we all took steps to reduce our impact on the climate then it would be a positive step forward. 

 

Denial and apathy are a problem in my view. 

2 hours ago, Odysseus123 said:

What is <deleted> Cyril?

 

By the way-has anyone taken a Cyril seriously since the Gallipoli Campaign?

 

Far,far to many Cyrils on that expedition.

I used the word <deleted> and it was deleted

 

sorry state of affairs, you people are winning the internet 

12 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

When she sails her yacht to China to protest on Tianaman Square I'll have some respect for her.

The biggest cause of pollution/ man made climate change is people. They should all be demanding that parents stop at one child- why are they not?

And there are far too many people on this planet approaching unsustainable levels,tackle the disease not the symptons.

2 minutes ago, kingdong said:

And there are far too many people on this planet approaching unsustainable levels,tackle the disease not the symptons.

You first.

8 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

Well, it wasn’t me questioning my choice but another poster for whatever reason. 

 

Individual choices for me matter, if we all took steps to reduce our impact on the climate then it would be a positive step forward. 

 

Denial and apathy are a problem in my view. 

Agree that denial and apathy are not good, but the ones who are here discussing the various issues are not indifferent to those issues, even if they have a different view from you.

Obviously facts are more important than words, some other people will follow good examples, so it's worth imho debating, but also showing facts.

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

1 hour ago, mauGR1 said:

A good mix of truth and lies, with a pinch of innuendo and a sprinkle of pomposity.

A brilliant example of demagogy.

The right wing and the left wing, meanwhile, are deciding how to share the cake.

 

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The millions of people marching in climate change demonstrations across 185 countries around the world are testament to 

 

The lemming?

 

2 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

Don’t tell me I don’t know about the proliferation of cars on our roads or the consequences of air travel. I don’t own a car and have recently begun travelling by sea rather than plane. Takes longer, much longer, but so be it. 

 

That was not the point you made. You accused those protesting of owning cars and being responsible for the actions of previous generations. 

 

Now prove they are doing the things you accuse them of, particularly regarding car ownership.  

Right on that's what we need action not words.

1 hour ago, cyril sneer said:

I used the word <deleted> and it was deleted

 

sorry state of affairs, you people are winning the internet 

Apparently so.

 

I don't know why..

 

Well,actually I do Cyril but we must leave it at that.

29 minutes ago, Forethat said:

Exactly who owns the organisations issuing Carbon Credits?

 

As previously mentioned (though deleted by moderators), Carbon Credit price has gone from a low of €4.38 per tonne in May 2017 to €13.82 per tonne in April 2018. According to the World Bank, the the total value for Carbon Credits was estimated at $82B (2018 figures).

 

Carbon Credits are traded as a commodity. As I mentioned in the outset, the question is (in reply to your attempts to scream , "lies" and "nonsense") exactly WHO is profiting from charging people for polluting the earths atmosphere. And more importantly, what impact does it have on the climate?

 

Here's the answer: none.

What has this got to do with the IPCC and the allegation by you that it's in line to receive trillions of dollars?

Edited September 21, 20196 yr by bristolboy

40 minutes ago, Tug said:

Wow dude that’s just crass

You think she came up with any of this nonsense by herself?  It is just a big virtue signaling stunt by her parents, and of course Liberals swallow it whole as usual. Someone will end up making money off of her of course. 

2 minutes ago, chokrai said:

You think she came up with any of this nonsense by herself?  It is just a big virtue signaling stunt by her parents, and of course Liberals swallow it whole as usual. Someone will end up making money off of her of course. 

Of course she didn't. And thanks for providing the information that shows your conclusion isn't just a consequence of your political bias but rather based in independently verifiable facts. Keep up the good work!

10 minutes ago, chokrai said:

You think she came up with any of this nonsense by herself?  It is just a big virtue signaling stunt by her parents, and of course Liberals swallow it whole as usual. Someone will end up making money off of her of course. 

A video depicting her twitching more often than Harry Redknapp was purged in a similar recent thread but the point remains that she is a vulnerable child with cognitive issues being ruthlessly exploited by whoever is propping her up.

Edited September 21, 20196 yr by evadgib

5 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

Of course she didn't. And thanks for providing the information that shows your conclusion isn't just a consequence of your political bias but rather based in independently verifiable facts. Keep up the good work!

One day I'm just gonna curl over  and laugh til' i'm fit to bust on this forum.

 

Thank you-wot a larff..

3 minutes ago, evadgib said:

A video depicting her twitching more often than Harry Redknapp was purged in a similar recent thread but the point remains that she is a vulnerable child with cognitive issues being ruthlessly exploited by whoever is propping her up.

Thank you.

 

I'm impressed

9 minutes ago, evadgib said:

A video depicting her twitching more often than Harry Redknapp was purged in a similar recent thread but the point remains that she is a vulnerable child with cognitive issues being ruthlessly exploited by whoever is propping her up.

And the twitching proves what? And if she stuttered would that also prove something? How does that prove that she is being exploited? Lots of people have tics. Ya think that shows there is some deep disturbance within? That they should keep themselves from public view?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/11/greta-thunberg-schoolgirl-climate-change-warrior-some-people-can-let-things-go-i-cant

13 hours ago, Tug said:

Kids the future is yours vote the polluters out get to work on renewables the energy is there it’s the storage of it is the key get to it don’t let a bunch of grumpy naysayers stop you!!!

<deleted>!!!!!

5 minutes ago, john ianson said:

<deleted>!!!!!

I am glad that you posted that.

 

Does this mean that the looney tunes American right and their associated Quislings and hangers on have been driven from the field?

 

Early days yet one supposes.

12 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

And the twitching proves what? And if she stuttered would that also prove something? How does that prove that she is being exploited? Lots of people have tics. Ya think that shows there is some deep disturbance within? That they should keep themselves from public view?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/11/greta-thunberg-schoolgirl-climate-change-warrior-some-people-can-let-things-go-i-cant

A 16 year old autistic (or whatever her condition is) child on a wind-powered boat crossing the atlantic in what I assume was school time & you're lecturing me on having the audacity to express concern? At the very least i'd expect her competence as a crew member to have been verified and for at least one adult family member to be among the crew.

If there's a 'yes' to any of that I managed to miss it; not that I have been particularly riveted other than by idle curiosity.

An inflammatory post has been removed. 

6 hours ago, dunroaming said:

And yet millions are following her lead.  Young people all over the world are worried by what is happening to the planet, so are their parents, so are the scientists.  The evidence is there now and slowly, begrudgingly, those who have mocked it in the past are seeing for themselves.

 

There will always be a few of the "head in the sand" brigade who will remain in denial but they really are not worth bothering with.  Greta is just giving a voice to all who are rightly concerned about their future.

The next generation will remember us as the last generation that had chance to stem the tide of the cultural revolution. The last generation that was educated before the rot of socialism and progressive ideology had corrupted the system. The last generation that expected to be married once, to the opposite sex, and to raise children to live better than we did. The last generation that remembered honest journalism and held to the morals and wisdom forged in the enlightenment. 

They will wonder why, though we saw it coming, we did nothing at all to stop it. 

 

Edited September 21, 20196 yr by canuckamuck

1 minute ago, canuckamuck said:

The next generation will remember us as the last generation that had chance to stem the tide of the cultural revolution. The last generation that was educated before the rot of socialism and progressive ideology had corrupted the system. The last generation that expected to be married once, to the opposite sex, and to raise children to live better than we did. The last generation that remembered honest journalism and held to the morals and wisdom forged in the enlightenment. 

They will wonder why, though we saw it coming, did nothing at all to stop it. 

 

"The rot of socialism" forsooth..etcetera..etcetera.

7 minutes ago, canuckamuck said:

The next generation will remember us as the last generation that had chance to stem the tide of the cultural revolution. The last generation that was educated before the rot of socialism and progressive ideology had corrupted the system. The last generation that expected to be married once, to the opposite sex, and to raise children to live better than we did. The last generation that remembered honest journalism and held to the morals and wisdom forged in the enlightenment. 

They will wonder why, though we saw it coming, we did nothing at all to stop it. 

 

Or they will wonder about that peculiar old gentleman muttering about a glorious past that never was.

35 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

And the twitching proves what? And if she stuttered would that also prove something? How does that prove that she is being exploited? Lots of people have tics. Ya think that shows there is some deep disturbance within? That they should keep themselves from public view?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/11/greta-thunberg-schoolgirl-climate-change-warrior-some-people-can-let-things-go-i-cant

Thanks.  That was an interesting article.   It will mostly be ignored here but that doesn't really matter.  

10 minutes ago, canuckamuck said:

The next generation will remember us as the last generation that had chance to stem the tide of the cultural revolution. The last generation that was educated before the rot of socialism and progressive ideology had corrupted the system. The last generation that expected to be married once, to the opposite sex, and to raise children to live better than we did. The last generation that remembered honest journalism and held to the morals and wisdom forged in the enlightenment. 

They will wonder why, though we saw it coming, we did nothing at all to stop it. 

 

"The last generation that was educated before the rot of socialism and progressive ideology had corrupted the system."  The system!  The uncorrupted system.  Interesting......

16 minutes ago, evadgib said:

A 16 year old autistic (or whatever her condition is) child on a wind-powered boat crossing the atlantic in what I assume was school time & you're lecturing me on having the audacity to express concern? At the very least i'd expect her competence as a crew member to have been verified and for at least one adult family member to be among the crew.

If there's a 'yes' to any of that I managed to miss it; not that I have been particularly riveted other than by idle curiosity.

Yes because clearly this is just an ordinary 16 year old girl and in no way advanced for her age and in no way special. And her experience and demonstrated ability to articulate the concerns of a worldwide movement will clearly not stand her in good stead for her adult life. In fact this experience will count against her and she is probably doomed to be a janitor or cashier. After all just look at that video of her which prompted your concern for her welfare. What else could a person with tics like that possibly be qualified to do?

 

7 minutes ago, ricklev said:

Thanks.  That was an interesting article.   It will mostly be ignored here but that doesn't really matter.  

Made me want to gag. 

Off-topic post and replies reported and removed.  

 

59 minutes ago, evadgib said:

A 16 year old autistic (or whatever her condition is) child on a wind-powered boat crossing the atlantic in what I assume was school time & you're lecturing me on having the audacity to express concern? At the very least i'd expect her competence as a crew member to have been verified and for at least one adult family member to be among the crew.

If there's a 'yes' to any of that I managed to miss it; not that I have been particularly riveted other than by idle curiosity.

I’m guessing but I suspect you are more concerned with the global reach of her message.

 

Beats half a dozen likes on TVF into a basket.