Biden's guilt or innocence has litle or nothing to do with trump's actions

 I get it why those on the right might want to talk about Biden instead of trump but this thread is about trump. If you all want to talk about Biden you should start a Bident thread. 

If there is enough evidence that  Bident or his Son did anything wrong they should be investigated and prosecuted, and should be a totally separate issue.

   

The Ukraine affair is a nothing burger for Trump but it's got a whole lot of meat for Biden.

You wish and anyway Biden is not subject to an Impeachment inquiry as at this point he is just a private citizen. I get the fame the "trump" fans are playing though. Deflect deflect deflect.

Sent from my Lenovo A7020a48 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app

So here we are, again. Trump supporters are doing their thing as are the Trump critics. No one's mind will be changed. People only listen to those on their "side."  Maybe Trump will be impeached, maybe he won't.

 

I believe there is one thing we ALL can agree on - this man has been THE most divisive president in our lifetimes. The internet is drenched with vitriol, folks from both camps are opposed to the point that bitter hatred is now common. Whether or not Trump is impeached, the biggest problem will still be here, wriggling on the dining room table with the stench of death all about it until we learn to take a step back and remember we really are in this together.

5 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:

You must live in Trump heaven somewhere. Trump lost the house already, he committed to a crime. He will trash nobody, He will spend time in jail for treason amongst other things.

conspiracy theories

17 minutes ago, sirineou said:

Biden's guilt or innocence has litle or nothing to do with trump's actions

 I get it why those on the right might want to talk about Biden instead of trump but this thread is about trump. If you all want to talk about Biden you should start a Bident thread. 

If there is enough evidence that  Bident or his Son did anything wrong they should be investigated and prosecuted, and should be a totally separate issue.

   

The unfounded accusations are about the "Ukraine Controversy" ,which include Intel,dems,gop,Mr. Trump and the biden's. Stay tuned to the investigations 

An off topic trolling post has been removed. 

 

A post containing a trolling meme has been removed. 

 

Posts containing trolling representations of Trump's name have been removed. 

10 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

You wish and anyway Biden is not subject to an Impeachment inquiry as at this point he is just a private citizen. I get the fame the "trump" fans are playing though. Deflect deflect deflect.

Sent from my Lenovo A7020a48 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app
 

Deflect from what, Jingthing.  There's no meat on the Dem's bone.  As usual it starts with an accusation, the story goes viral as it's passed from one biased media outlet to the next, the people getting played get their panties into a knot hoping beyond hope that they've finally found the smoking gun, and in the end it's all just another hoax.  Over and over and over again.  I give you folks credit for your undying persistence and your ability to continually bear disappointment.

 

The drive for impeachment had stalled.  The Dems needed something to revive it.  They are immensely creative in concocting smears.  But the Dems also need the commoners to support them.  So they play those they can.  And there are a lot of people allowing themselves to get played.

16 minutes ago, riclag said:

The unfounded accusations are about the "Ukraine Controversy" ,which include Intel,dems,gop,Mr. Trump and the biden's. Stay tuned to the investigations 

As much as you might want them to be ,No they are not!!!

  What Bident or his son did has nothing  to do with what trump did or did not do.

But whistling while walking through a cemetery does distract one and provides some comfort, "You know how to whistle don't you? just put your lips together and blow"  

So when Giuliani was digging up dirt on Biden in Ukraine was Giuliani acting in a personal capacity as Donald's lawyer or was he acting on behalf of the State Department?

 

It seems like no one can get their act together on this simple question. Giuliani has contradicted himself on this issue as well.

 

Giuliani claims he only got involved in Ukraine after the State Department asked him to, because he would be better at it than the FBI

 

Per Giuliani...

Quote

"I never talked to an Ukrainian official until the State Department called me and asked me to do it," he told Ingraham. "And then I reported to every conversation back to them." 

 

Per the State Department..

Quote

But the State Department then said in a statement to The Hill: "Mr. Giuliani is a private citizen and acts in a personal capacity as a lawyer for President Trump. He does not speak on behalf of the U.S. Government."

 

What an absolute clown show. They can't even keep their own "facts" straight.

 

33 minutes ago, quandow said:

So here we are, again. Trump supporters are doing their thing as are the Trump critics. No one's mind will be changed. People only listen to those on their "side."  Maybe Trump will be impeached, maybe he won't.

 

I believe there is one thing we ALL can agree on - this man has been THE most divisive president in our lifetimes. The internet is drenched with vitriol, folks from both camps are opposed to the point that bitter hatred is now common. Whether or not Trump is impeached, the biggest problem will still be here, wriggling on the dining room table with the stench of death all about it until we learn to take a step back and remember we really are in this together.

I'm not a Trump supporter.  Neither am I a Dem or Republican.  If I had my way I would disband all political parties.  They exist for one reason and one reason only . . . to consolidate power.

 

And I agree, we are in this together.  Unfortunately, the reality is that there are people who think for themselves and there are people who have others do the thinking for them.  Perhaps one day we'll have a world where every man and woman thinks for his or herself.  Where they don't blindly accept the information they're fed by others who have no altruistic intentions.  I'm not holding my breath, though.

9 minutes ago, sirineou said:

As much as you might want them to be ,No they are not!!!

  What Bident or his son did has nothing  to do with what trump did or did not do.

But whistling while walking through a cemetery does distract one and provides some comfort, "You know how to whistle don't you? just put your lips together and blow"  

What connects these two separate issues is that Biden actually did what the Dems are accusing Trump of doing.  The hypocrisy is so blatant that it can't be ignored by those people who refuse to be played.

2 hours ago, 4675636b596f75 said:

You don't tell me what to do, "understand?"  

 

He claimed Manafort was convicted of things that had to do with the 2016 campaign.

 

That is 100 percent false.

 

Untrue.

 

It's a 100 percent prevarication.

No, he didn't. If he did then prove it.

Put up or.....

33 minutes ago, sirineou said:

As much as you might want them to be ,No they are not!!!

  What Bident or his son did has nothing  to do with what trump did or did not do.

But whistling while walking through a cemetery does distract one and provides some comfort, "You know how to whistle don't you? just put your lips together and blow"  

 My mistake! bidens name is only mentioned 5 times in this story,Ukraine Controversy

13 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

What connects these two separate issues is that Biden actually did what the Dems are accusing Trump of doing.  The hypocrisy is so blatant that it can't be ignored by those people who refuse to be played.

I'm sure you can back that assertion up with facts?

1 hour ago, JemJem said:

Folks, don't you also think that most probably the Dem. candidates other than Biden are really unhappy about this development ? I am saying this because even if this impeachment stuff doesn't get anywhere, all this will help sustain (and maybe even increase) Biden's popularity (as you know, he has had the lead in the Dem. polls for quite some time) due to him being seen as sort of a victim.

Victim of dementia

4 minutes ago, Becker said:

I'm sure you can back up that assertion with facts?

Becker, he admitted it and it's on tape so I'm a bit shocked you would ask for evidence.

 

Now we can argue all day about the specific reasons why he had the prosecutor fired.  There's an "official" version which is being sold out on the market for those willing to buy into it.  But anybody who knows anything about politics knows that there are "official" versions of any given event and then there's the truth.   The gullible will buy the "official" version and be quite satisfied to repeat it endlessly whilst those who aren't so trusting, especially of politicians who are gifted in the art of deception, will be looking past the "official" version with a long list of questions (most of which will never be answered).

 

 

1 hour ago, quandow said:

So here we are, again. Trump supporters are doing their thing as are the Trump critics. No one's mind will be changed. People only listen to those on their "side."  Maybe Trump will be impeached, maybe he won't.

 

I believe there is one thing we ALL can agree on - this man has been THE most divisive president in our lifetimes. The internet is drenched with vitriol, folks from both camps are opposed to the point that bitter hatred is now common. Whether or not Trump is impeached, the biggest problem will still be here, wriggling on the dining room table with the stench of death all about it until we learn to take a step back and remember we really are in this together.

I don't agree with you. I think Obama was the most divisive president .

2 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

Becker, he admitted it and it's on tape so I'm a bit shocked you would ask for evidence.

 

Now we can argue all day about the specific reasons why he had the prosecutor fired.  There's an "official" version which is being sold out on the market for those willing to buy into it.  But anybody who knows anything about politics knows that there are "official" versions of any given event and then there's the truth.   The gullible will buy the "official" version and be quite satisfied to repeat it endlessly whilst those who aren't so trusting, especially of politicians who are gifted in the art of deception, will be looking past the "official" version with a long list of questions (most of which will never be answered).

 

 

Some of these question will be answered when Biden his son and his cronies are called in front of Congress.  

24 minutes ago, Becker said:

No, he didn't. If he did then prove it.

Put up or.....

It doesn't work that way.  Perhaps, in Communist China it works this way, but in most of the free world it does not.  I don't have to prove he is lying.  I didn't make the assertion that Manafort was indicted on crimes linked to the 2016 campaign.  He did. 

 

It is up to him to prove his words.  He cannot.

 

I think that is evidenced.

 

Another #Fakenews claim by the ill informed.

I am neither American nor do i care for Dems or Republicans but Trump haters here and all over the media make me laugh.

 

For over 3 years, haters have been blaming Trump for everything and Dems have been slinging mud hoping it will stick with no success for either one.

 

Instead of concentrating on putting forward strong candidate for the next elections along with good  and strong policies, all Dems are doing is trying to bring down Trump.

 

The saddest part with this fiasco IS surely they must be aware chances of impeachment are slim to none and if anything, once they fail and fail they will, it will only give Trump more popularity.

 Donald Trump will (probably) never be impeached https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/leaders/donald-trump-will-probably-never-be-impeached/news-story/614d49331269f6d64e71b14e175f046d

While I agree these accusations against Trump are nothing to do with Biden, there is however a Biden question that has been answered.

 

Trump and his supporters have been telling us Biden is all things not Presidential material, a sure looser against Trump.

 

And yet here we are, Trump’s fear of Biden driving him to commit impeachable crimes.

8 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

Becker, he admitted it and it's on tape so I'm a bit shocked you would ask for evidence.

 

Now we can argue all day about the specific reasons why he had the prosecutor fired.  There's an "official" version which is being sold out on the market for those willing to buy into it.  But anybody who knows anything about politics knows that there are "official" versions of any given event and then there's the truth.   The gullible will buy the "official" version and be quite satisfied to repeat it endlessly whilst those who aren't so trusting, especially of politicians who are gifted in the art of deception, will be looking past the "official" version with a long list of questions (most of which will never be answered).

 

 

Biden is a criminal waiting to be indicted.  Watch his campaign go poof.

4 minutes ago, chokrai said:

Some of these question will be answered when Biden his son and his cronies are called in front of Congress.  

You mean you don’t have anything to back up your accusations but you expect us to believe others do.

1 hour ago, sirineou said:

Biden's guilt or innocence has litle or nothing to do with trump's actions

 I get it why those on the right might want to talk about Biden instead of trump but this thread is about trump. If you all want to talk about Biden you should start a Bident thread. 

If there is enough evidence that  Bident or his Son did anything wrong they should be investigated and prosecuted, and should be a totally separate issue.

   

We dont play that game anymore, you dish it out we dish it back. Get used to it.

4 minutes ago, 4675636b596f75 said:

Biden is a criminal waiting to be indicted.  Watch his campaign go poof.

Which begs a question, why is Trump so afraid of Biden that he’s willing to commit crimes to try and dirty his name?!

2 minutes ago, chokrai said:

We dont play that game anymore, you dish it out we dish it back. Get used to it.

We are used to it. It's a predictable cheap trick that eventually will stop working. Biden isn't under threat of impeachment. "trump" is. 

Just now, Jingthing said:

We are used. It's a cheap trick that eventually will stop working. Biden isn't under threat of impeachment. "trump" is. 

And the cause of Trump’s impending impeachment..... his fear of Biden.

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Which begs a question, why is Trump so afraid of Biden that he’s willing to commit crimes to try and dirty his name?!

It begs the question, what is your evidence that a crime has occurred?

 

Do you have a video of Trump admitting to a crime while holding high office?

 

No, you don't.

 

Oh, you do have one of Biden.

 

Tsk tsk

4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

You mean you don’t have anything to back up your accusations but you expect us to believe others do.

You have nothing to back up your accusations for the last 2 years Biden has already admited to his crimes. 

1 minute ago, 4675636b596f75 said:

It begs the question, what is your evidence that a crime has occurred?

Trump flat out admitted his crimes.

 

Doh!