1 hour ago, Jip99 said:

 

Those bullets were metaphorical.... I think you know that.

I can't be a judge of that, but I think so, the only ones having till now been, hmm, from the side, bringing in a menace of violence, were some extreme brexiteers, whether plain deluded, or working for the foreign agit-prop behind 'leave', actually, it seems the lobotomised extreme-right nitwit who caused the first death, RIP this brave humanist, in this sad brexit saga, could well have been manipulated by his sort's congenital enemy: Russia... The twists and turns, oh my!

Here's the plan folks.......

 

 

the coalition (don't care who it is Ken Clarke would look good) takes control of Parliament- rams through legislation for 16 years old to vote (as they do in Scotland) and also allow EU residents in the Uk to vote in national elections / referenda THEN we call the election at a time of our choosing - mass campaign for voter registration - just like the 100 million the Tories spaffed up the wall with Get Ready for Brexit. Brexit Party savages Tories and the Remain Coalition is over the line. Even Cummings would respect such machiavellian tactics. You just gotta love Gina Miller I would die in a ditch for her ......

 

 

By any means necessary. 

2 hours ago, Jip99 said:

 

 

I would spray your bullets wider across the whole parliament.

 

Johnson is an easy target but, in reality, Theresa May has done far more damage

ThaiVisa, are your moderators' nostrils plugged, they don't recognise the smell of gun powder? This is not the first time in recent days brexit extremists come up here with, more, or less, veiled threats of violence. But when you are more concerned with a double dot above a vowel, or none, in a country's name (still expecting a clear answer from you about that one...), oh well, 'the Nation' is safe...

21 minutes ago, evadgib said:

Of interest to this board?

 

No Robin Tilbrook is a fascist consorting nut job  wrapping himself in the Union Flag. Some lowly apparatchik will draft a template response.  As he cuts and pastes furiously from do not pass upward pile. Or as we used to say Treat Official. 

 

Or I would favour 

 

Dear Mr Nutjob 

 

the minister has asked me to thank you for your correspondence dated 15th April. The comments have been duly noted.

 

yours sincerely 

 

Couldn't Care Less lowly paid civil srevant

22 minutes ago, bangrak said:

 

I sent a scenario in using these characters and a terrifying clown without a make-up called Nigel, was told it was too scary for the young audience it was aimed at, pfff...

 One has to agree , bonkers has the straw hair style , to convince the village folk , vote brexit..

   Nigel , Nigel, where is he now , i worry him.  Ties for sale on Ebay , collectors items ...

     

1 minute ago, elliss said:

 One has to agree , bonkers has the straw hair style , to convince the village folk , vote brexit..

   Nigel , Nigel, where is he now , i worry him.  Ties for sale on Ebay , collectors items ...

     

Na-ah, don't minimise or ridicule the 'enemy', as deep-black it can be, you might provide it with the means for a, twisted, undeserved, come-back, you rather go on squashing it with the evidence of its betrayal until it vanishes or at least doesn't move anymore.

But, still, as per today, both the UK and the EU seem to have 'cold feet' about calling out, ...or at least have a deep-going, public, investigation about, the manipulations, 'possibly' with the, then criminal, intervention of a foreign State, in the leave campaign leading to the 2016 referendum, and into the Ukip and N-Irish party's financing and functioning.

The evidence is there, ready, available! Would the fear of possible popular manipulation towards creating political violence on the streets be strong enough to bury the truth(!) about the whole abuse under the silence of the cowards?

Why have the British authorities decided to brush the whole thing under the carpet, when and if not...?

When this would have been a Russian destabilising 'operation' indeed (which well informed sources consider much worse than the 'Russian gate' surrounding Trump's election), then it would surely need to be properly documented, investigated and prosecuted, to the bitter end, was it only with the hope to avoid it to repeat itself! 

Krugman, 2 years ago, dismissing the idea that the UK will gain trade with Brexit.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/brexit-paul-krugman-zero-chance-britain-better-off-eu-leave-single-market-custom-union-exports-trade-a7965871.html

 

7 hours ago, Loiner said:

 

They all rejected May’s Deal, from both sides of the house and rightly so. Three times.

It wasn’t a deal, the Merkel/May Surrender Treaty was outright capitulation nicknamed BRINO. It certainly wasn’t the deal that anybody spoke about before the referendum, which was a trade deal that they won’t even discuss yet. The divorce deal that will not be agreed was only a Remainer and EU invention, after they lost the referendum.

 

It was the best deal we've seen to date, and it was agreed between the EU and the UK government.  It was built on honest hard working negotiation, not pompous bluster.

 

I had hoped that that Brexit would only bring us one step closer to war with our neighbours, but instead it seems we will also be on the brink of dissolution of the United Kingdom, rejection of the rule of law and government, and the removal of the monarchy.

 

Good job, Boris.  But he hasn't even delivered Brexit yet.

 

Good job, Boris!

what i understand , the majority of britons voted to leave the eu, but what boris wants is  to leave the eu at any cost, meaning even without a deal, and this  would be a coup d'état, kind of, because nobody gave him a no-deal brexit mandate!

Here are the facts about Brexit :

 

• In 2016, the message was “Brexit will improve your lives”.
• In 2017, the message became “People need to believe more in Brexit”.
• In 2018, the revised message was “We always knew there is a economic cost to Brexit, perhaps even a severe one”.
• And now in 2019, Ann Widdecombe of the Brexit Party announces that “Brexit is as nothing compared to the sacrifice that we asked a previous generation to make”, referring to World War 2, an event where 450,700 UK citizens died and 85 million were killed worldwide. This is the latest comparison of the impact of Brexit.

In short, what Leavers now want, in the end, appears to be a Brexit which is better than being bombed incessantly.

42 minutes ago, Pique Dard said:

what i understand , the majority of britons voted to leave the eu, but what boris wants is  to leave the eu at any cost, meaning even without a deal, and this  would be a coup d'état, kind of, because nobody gave him a no-deal brexit mandate!

After three and a half years both parliaments has had enough time to work out a deal, the reason the UK has not come up with a deal that actually equates to leaving is because our parliament has lied and they don't want to leave. The only half in half out deal was Mrs Mays surrender document, the reason the remainers didn't like it was because it meant coming out a little and the reason the the leavers didn't like it is because it Brexit in name only.

The no deal mandate is the default option of not reaching an agreement, and most of the electorate in the country are so sick of all the shenanigans that parliament have and still are conducting themselves, they just want out, a no deal doesn't bother most people, it is another red herring that remainers have invented to try and put the hounds off the scent.

(It doesn't look good ...no blinking in the making from Brussels …)

Daniel Boffey

Sat 28 Sep 2019 20.22 BST Last modified on Sat 28 Sep 2019 23.55 BST

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/28/michel-barnier-boris-johnson-polarising-behaviour-brexit-deal

Michel Barnier: Boris Johnson’s behaviour has ‘limited the chance’ of a Brexit deal

Brussels fears prime minister has ‘lost control’ of events and warns that hopes of an agreement are now ‘very low

 

 

Michel Barnier has told the British government that he fears Boris Johnson’s polarising behaviour has effectively blown any chance of finding a majority for a Brexit deal in the Commons.

In private discussions with the Brexit secretary, Stephen Barclay, the EU’s chief negotiator said that developments in Westminster had damaged the already slim hope of winning MPs over.

 

According to a leaked note of the meeting, Barnier spoke of the “limited chance of approval of a deal in the current parliament” given recent events, an assertion with which Barclay disagreed, insisting a majority could be found. Barnier concluded, however, in a briefing to EU diplomats for the 27 member states, that the “current polarisation in the UK has further reduced the chances of agreement”, according to minutes seen by the Observer.

 

more...

12 hours ago, StreetCowboy said:

 

I have no idea what Boris is trying to achieve, but he is doing a good of so far of blocking Brexit.

 

Maybe blood runs thicker than water?

Maybe not for his sister, she put up one possibility.

 

But as his sister has reminded us, he is backed by speculators who have bet billions on a hard Brexit – and there is only one outcome that works for them: a crash-out no-deal Brexit that sends the currency tumbling and inflation soaring.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-news-latest-brexit-philip-hammond-no-deal-radicals-a9124186.html

5 minutes ago, sandyf said:

Maybe not for his sister, she put up one possibility.

 

But as his sister has reminded us, he is backed by speculators who have bet billions on a hard Brexit – and there is only one outcome that works for them: a crash-out no-deal Brexit that sends the currency tumbling and inflation soaring.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-news-latest-brexit-philip-hammond-no-deal-radicals-a9124186.html

After the brother now the sister ….. seems they don't want to be connected with his doings ...as it could get nasty legally ...

18 hours ago, Nigel Garvie said:

Please advise what John Major thinks the reptilian Cummings might do, I didn't read it anywhere... thanks.

 

Major had said he feared the government would try to bypass the act through an order of council. “It is important to note that an order of council can be passed by privy councillors – that is government ministers – without involving HM the Queen,” he told the Centre for European Reform thinktank.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/27/benn-act-is-watertight-gauke-deems-majors-brexit-fears-misplaced

3 hours ago, sandyf said:

Maybe not for his sister, she put up one possibility.

 

But as his sister has reminded us, he is backed by speculators who have bet billions on a hard Brexit – and there is only one outcome that works for them: a crash-out no-deal Brexit that sends the currency tumbling and inflation soaring.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-news-latest-brexit-philip-hammond-no-deal-radicals-a9124186.html

 

And yet the <snip>ignore this.

 

He is delivering the Brexit the millionaire speculators want. And after will work to make the low cost, low income, no worker rights, tax haven these billionaire's want.

 

Never have so many been fooled by so few!

2 hours ago, david555 said:

After the brother now the sister ….. seems they don't want to be connected with his doings ...as it could get nasty legally ...

 

Both brother and sister know exactly what he's up to and for whom.

 

They want no part of it and she's the braver by making it public.

 

This band of profiteers saw the chance to make billions when dopey Dave Cameron instigated his poorly thought out referendum. And Boris has faithfully followed their instructions.

 

They get rich while the country goes down the pan.

 

But they all went to jolly good schools!

17 hours ago, soalbundy said:

you sound like an expat in Thailand, the country will go broke without us retirees. The Uk is a net contributor but a lot of money also flowed back, Cornwall and Wales will miss the EU money as will Scotland and some parts of Northern England.

No. Not a lot flows back and the use of the little that does come back is dictated by the EU.

5 hours ago, StreetCowboy said:

It was the best deal we've seen to date, and it was agreed between the EU and the UK government.  It was built on honest hard working negotiation, not pompous bluster.

 

I had hoped that that Brexit would only bring us one step closer to war with our neighbours, but instead it seems we will also be on the brink of dissolution of the United Kingdom, rejection of the rule of law and government, and the removal of the monarchy.

 

Good job, Boris.  But he hasn't even delivered Brexit yet.

 

Good job, Boris!

May dispatching O(i)lly Robbins to undermine her brexit secretary & subsequently rewarding him with a knighthood?

Yeah, Right 

13 hours ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

No Robin Tilbrook is a fascist consorting nut job  wrapping himself in the Union Flag. Some lowly apparatchik will draft a template response.  As he cuts and pastes furiously from do not pass upward pile. Or as we used to say Treat Official. 

 

Or I would favour 

 

Dear Mr Nutjob 

 

the minister has asked me to thank you for your correspondence dated 15th April. The comments have been duly noted.

 

yours sincerely 

 

Couldn't Care Less lowly paid civil srevant

Tilbrook is nothing more than an English eccentric & the flag is that of St George.

 

The author of the letter is a businessman, BP MEP and former owner of a EPL football team.

 

You seriously need to up your game while trolling.

 

15 minutes ago, david555 said:

Yes …, no need to wave with your hand !…..5555 ????????

Haw haw haw

4 hours ago, vogie said:

After three and a half years both parliaments has had enough time to work out a deal, the reason the UK has not come up with a deal that actually equates to leaving is because our parliament has lied and they don't want to leave. The only half in half out deal was Mrs Mays surrender document, the reason the remainers didn't like it was because it meant coming out a little and the reason the the leavers didn't like it is because it Brexit in name only.

The no deal mandate is the default option of not reaching an agreement, and most of the electorate in the country are so sick of all the shenanigans that parliament have and still are conducting themselves, they just want out, a no deal doesn't bother most people, it is another red herring that remainers have invented to try and put the hounds off the scent.

Summed up by the Mogg in this old QT clip:

 

20 hours ago, Nigel Garvie said:

 

Britain as an offshore tax haven, a low wage, low tax, regulation free, workers rights free, NHS free,  paradise for spivs, Tories and others. The ordinary working man will end up like the guest workers in Doha or Abu Dhabi. It is beyond belief that many of them voted on the basis of sovereignty, taking back control, and Immigration. Ironically Boris's plans will make them feel like immigrants in what they call "Their own country".

 

What is it all about - money of course - the hedge fund managers are shorting sterling all the time, Boris's little gift to them. These are the people who will be in control, not ordinary folk. We was gubbed!

You are very naughty getting that thing out of the cupboard again....

Boris the Brief is finished and so is Brexit.  It's looking like the Remain parties may call their vote of no confidence sooner rather than later to defuse whatever sneaky plan Johnson is cooking up to nullify the Benn Act in time to achieve the goal of a no deal Brexit on the backs of the working class.  So, a caretaker PM will call for a referendum and that will be the end of that.

15 hours ago, Loiner said:

 

They all rejected May’s Deal, from both sides of the house and rightly so. Three times.

It wasn’t a deal, the Merkel/May Surrender Treaty was outright capitulation nicknamed BRINO. It certainly wasn’t the deal that anybody spoke about before the referendum, which was a trade deal that they won’t even discuss yet. The divorce deal that will not be agreed was only a Remainer and EU invention, after they lost the referendum.

 

 

May's deal was virtually identical to the Brexit which Cummings and his campaign promised us before the referendum. The only real difference being the backstop, which Cummings and his political mouthpieces had dismissed as 'Project Fear' whenever anyone from the Remain campaign tried to talk about it during the campaign.

 

Labour voted against the deal because they wanted to remain in the customs union and the freedom of movement directive, and May's deal would have taken us out of both. It was Rees-Mogg with his ERG, Johnson and other Tories who put personal ambition ahead of the country and voted against the deal who scuppered it and so caused the last 6 months of chaos.

 

Still, they got what they wanted; but for how long?

 

When the Opposition are sure Johnson can't use it to sneak a no deal Brexit through while Parliament is dissolved, he will get his general election. After which he will almost certainly be moving out of Number 10 and, given his lowish majority in Uxbridge and South Ruislip, 5034, possibly out of the HoC as well!

 

The only down side to that being the likelihood of Corbyn being our next PM!

16 hours ago, evadgib said:

Of interest to this board?

 

 A Brexit Party MEP arguing that the EU should overturn our Parliament's decision to request, and be granted, an extension to Article 50!

 

I thought their argument was about taking our sovereignty back from Brussels? Only when it suits them, it appears.

1 hour ago, transam said:

21 hours ago, Nigel Garvie said:

 

Britain as an offshore tax haven, a low wage, low tax, regulation free, workers rights free, NHS free,  paradise for spivs, Tories and others. The ordinary working man will end up like the guest workers in Doha or Abu Dhabi. It is beyond belief that many of them voted on the basis of sovereignty, taking back control, and Immigration. Ironically Boris's plans will make them feel like immigrants in what they call "Their own country".

 

What is it all about - money of course - the hedge fund managers are shorting sterling all the time, Boris's little gift to them. These are the people who will be in control, not ordinary folk. We was gubbed!

You are very naughty getting that thing out of the cupboard again...

 Indeed, it's the last thing Johnson, Rees-Mogg and their mates want us, the people, to know about!

 

FYI, the EU anti tax avoidance package is real.

 

Is this the real reason why Farage and Rees-Mogg want a speedy Brexit?

Quote

The EU's forthcoming anti-tax avoidance rules could be a big boost for our public services but, as Chevan Ilangaratne and Dami Olatuyi explain, they will be binned if Farage and Rees-Mogg get their way.

 

 

18 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

 A Brexit Party MEP arguing that the EU should overturn our Parliament's decision to request, and be granted, an extension to Article 50!

 

I thought their argument was about taking our sovereignty back from Brussels? Only when it suits them, it appears.

Extn?

Isn't their true objective the full Bobby Ewing?

5 minutes ago, evadgib said:

23 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

 A Brexit Party MEP arguing that the EU should overturn our Parliament's decision to request, and be granted, an extension to Article 50!

 

I thought their argument was about taking our sovereignty back from Brussels? Only when it suits them, it appears.

Extn?

Isn't their true objective the full Bobby Ewing?

Edited 1 minute ago by evadgib

 

Dodging the issue, which is a Brexit Party MEP hypocritically arguing that the EU should overrule the UK Parliament! 

 

As we all know, if your hero and his mates hadn't put their personal ambitions above country we would have left last March and there would have been no need to ask for an extension.