Climate change and Thailand

[Kwasaki]

6 hours ago, Misab said:

 

It might be the same in many Asian countries and perhaps some African countries but if you look at Canada, Europe, South Amerika, USA you really have to search to find pollution above 50

Yeah the USA people gets no problems from climate change that's why US govt does nothing about it.

[Autonuaq]

If you have red the Thai news then you could now that bagkok is sinking and they water problems are huge.

Many place water levels are so high that area now flod.

 

The popution is also a huge problen and they are late to address this.

 

The climate in Thailand iself is also changing and already noticable when you farm or when you have records of for example the aircon use or heater uses.

 

Also the wind and rain have changed the pas 10 years noticable.

[Autonuaq]

7 hours ago, Misab said:

Berrec look here;

 

According to Google;

 

Sea levels could rise as much as 19 inches by 2050, ( ½ meter) according to what the report calls “mid-range projections.” The team used data from the U.S. Geological Survey to map all areas along the continental U.S. coastline containing homes that lie within one to 10 feet from the water level at high tide.

 

Temperature rising is at the moment the biggest problem.

According to NASA this is how it looks from 1885 to 2015:

 

 

 

 

 

 

I was not aware the we did have had reliable satelite back in 1885 until about the 1969 period.

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[Autonuaq]

7 hours ago, Misab said:

Berrec look here;

 

According to Google;

 

Sea levels could rise as much as 19 inches by 2050, ( ½ meter) according to what the report calls “mid-range projections.” The team used data from the U.S. Geological Survey to map all areas along the continental U.S. coastline containing homes that lie within one to 10 feet from the water level at high tide.

 

Temperature rising is at the moment the biggest problem.

According to NASA this is how it looks from 1885 to 2015:

 

 

 

 

 

 

I was not aware the we did have had reliable satelite back in 1885 until about the 1969 period.

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[Tounge Thaied]

Don't you know... the U.N. has a plan... It's just not what you think it is. Agenda 21, the Agenda for the 21st century addresses climate change but is not what you think it is.

 

 

[Autonuaq]

7 hours ago, Misab said:

Berrec look here;

 

According to Google;

 

Sea levels could rise as much as 19 inches by 2050, ( ½ meter) according to what the report calls “mid-range projections.” The team used data from the U.S. Geological Survey to map all areas along the continental U.S. coastline containing homes that lie within one to 10 feet from the water level at high tide.

 

Temperature rising is at the moment the biggest problem.

According to NASA this is how it looks from 1885 to 2015:

 

 

 

 

 

 

I was not aware the we did have had reliable satelite back in 1885 until about the 1969 period.

????

[Autonuaq]

For those who are really intrested in the Thai prediction of the water household have a look at the picture below. Thailand 2050 water forecast. Red area is all flooded.

[Tounge Thaied]

"Last September 21, as the Northern Hemisphere tilted away from the sun, scientists reported with unprecedented distress that the North Polar ice cap is “falling off a cliff.” One study estimated that it could be completely gone during summer in less than 22 years. Another new study, to be presented by U.S. Navy researchers later this week, warns it could happen in as little as 7 years." - Al Gore 2007
https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/peace/2007/gore/26118-al-gore-nobel-lecture-2007/

 

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/nasa-study-mass-gains-of-antarctic-ice-sheet-greater-than-losses

 

[marqus12]

People, don't panic! They only weaponize the climate 555
 

Someday Thailand will get a choice:
 -purchases of equipment for producing energy from renewable sources
-or high duties on imports into the EU

 

Civilizing Africa 4.0...in white gloves.

[Krataiboy]

1 hour ago, Autonuaq said:

For those who are really intrested in the Thai prediction of the water household have a look at the picture below. Thailand 2050 water forecast. Red area is all flooded.

As I understand it, sea levels are rising at 3.6 mm per year or around 10.8 centimetres (roughly four and a half inches) by 2050. Hard to believe such a relatively small increase would inundate such a huge area.

 

Sounds suspiciously like yet another climate change story story to force us all to accept increasing control over our lives by the political/corporate elite.

 

[Tounge Thaied]

16 minutes ago, Krataiboy said:

As I understand it, sea levels are rising at 3.6 mm per year or around 10.8 centimetres (roughly four and a half inches) by 2050. Hard to believe such a relatively small increase would inundate such a huge area.

Well I will be approaching my 80's when 2050 rolls around... we shall see, I plan on still being around. ????

[runamok27]

The biggest problems with these "climate change" discussions is that a lot of people don't understand that "climate change" is a theory, not a fact, "climate change" supporters mock the deniers saying they are ignoring science when the science is nowhere near settled and probably never will be, none of the "climate change" supporters predictions are coming true, supporters are constantly getting caught falsifying data, supporters actually ignore any science with conclusions contrary to theirs, using small "weather change" samples as support for "climate change", weather is NOT climate. In my opinion, we know about .01% of how climate actually works. The onus is on supporters of any theory to provide the proof of their theory and so far, the proof has been incredibly weak at best. This is understandable considering the extremely low level of knowledge we have with regards to climate. The only fact out there is that climate changes, that's it. How it changes and why it changes are still a complete mystery to humans and probably will be for the foreseeable future. 

[Misab]

11 hours ago, GreasyFingers said:

They made the same predictions 40 years ago. About time you did some real research.

40 years ago they did not have the last picture

[Laza 45]

Carbon Dioxide levels at highest levels in 3 million years.. here is why you should be concerned..

 

 

[emptypockets]

16 hours ago, Misab said:

Climate change is a controversial topic, it has become like religion, facts are inferior, huge financial interests are at stake, with plenty of lobbying from the Oil Companies
The Center for Climate Research at the University of Copenhagen conducts ice drilling in Greenland. Analyzes show that for the last 800,000 years, no greenhouse gas values have been seen reaching a level similar to what we have now. The level before the 19th century was around 200 ppm. In January 2019, the measurement reached 410 ppm and continues to increase. It is well known that the average temperature follows up on CO2.
       Personally, I think we have passed the point where climate change can be stopped because CO2 stays in the atmosphere, nobody knows exactly how long, but guessing somewhere between 20 and 200 years.

How do you explain the various heating and cooling  periods of the planet before man existed?

 

Many scientists believe the research that shows the level of CO2 is a function of temperature rise, not the cause of it. But it is inconvenient for the zealots and tax grabbing politicians to listen to them.

[emptypockets]

31 minutes ago, Laza 45 said:

Carbon Dioxide levels at highest levels in 3 million years.. here is why you should be concerned..

 

 

Didn't watch the video. The still shot shows cooling towers in action. Of course all the whack jobs thinks it is smoke or CO2 when in fact it is water vapour.

The loony green movement seem to show these types of pictures a lot when trying to bend the ignorant to their cause.

Having said that the most influential  greenhouse gas on the climate is water vapour. Try controlling the clouds, good luck with that.

[brokenbone]

pollution got nothing to do with climate change,

i already answered the supposed bkk flood in another thread,

notice how the mud this joke of a tide gauge was built on is seeping

out on the sides from the weight, the worthless thing is sinking,

the sooner the merrier from a scientific pov

 

[brokenbone]

48 minutes ago, Laza 45 said:

Carbon Dioxide levels at highest levels in 3 million years.. here is why you should be concerned..

 

 

why should i be concerned about more biomass ?

plants has been suffocating due to low co2 for even more millions of years,

professional greenhouse owners recommend 1500 ppm,

and long term trend without man interference is

that atmosphere co2 will drop to 150 ppm in 2-3 million years,

at which point plants and consequently everything else up the food chain goes extinct.

as we left the last ice age, earth came very close to wipe out life on earth,

at an all time low of 180 ppm

[GreasyFingers]

2 hours ago, Misab said:

40 years ago they did not have the last picture

The message is still the same. They just needed something different to hang it on. In another 40 years they will find something different again.

[brokenbone]

17 hours ago, Misab said:

 It is well known that the average temperature follows up on CO2.
      

no, its the other way around, co2 dont affect temperature, but during the ice ages,

it exist a relation, but its higher temperature that with a certain time lag increases co2

[Brunolem]

9 hours ago, Krataiboy said:

As I understand it, sea levels are rising at 3.6 mm per year or around 10.8 centimetres (roughly four and a half inches) by 2050. Hard to believe such a relatively small increase would inundate such a huge area.

 

Sounds suspiciously like yet another climate change story story to force us all to accept increasing control over our lives by the political/corporate elite.

 

Scientists are generally very bad at communicating.

 

One of the big mistakes they have made regarding climate change is to talk in averages, which do not reflect at all the reality.

 

Water levels may rise 3.6 mm per year...on average...but they don't rise uniformely all over the planet.

 

As surprising as it may seem, there exist large water level differences from one spot to another in a given ocean.

 

The same is true for temperatures...these same scientists keep on talking about their 1.5 or 2 degree increase in temperature, which is an average that exists nowhere.

 

The fact is that, while in some areas temperatures are not increasing one bit, in other areas, such as the North Pole, for example, they increase a lot...by around 5 degrees C actually.

 

Even if the rest of the world remained stable, which is not the case, the destabilization of the North Pole would by itself wreak havoc on all the planet.

 

Consider that the ice that covers Greenland, and is melting at alarming speed, is enough to raise the oceans levels by 6 to 7 meters! And this is happening, one can see it in real time on countless films, for the sceptics.

 

Why do you think the US wanted to buy Greenland recently?

Not for ice skating, but because they know that soon enough it will be possible to dig in the ground, free of ice, never mind if Manhattan and Miami are underwater at that time, that's not the problem of multinational corporations...

[brokenbone]

3 minutes ago, Brunolem said:

 

Consider that the ice that covers Greenland, and is melting at alarming speed, is enough to raise the oceans levels by 6 to 7 meters! And this is happening, one can see it in real time on countless films, for the sceptics.

 

 

greenland added 250 billion ton of ice over the past 3 years,

and was practically ice free 1 million years ago

https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1138234-activist-thunberg-denounces-creative-pr-in-climate-fight/?do=findComment&comment=14851679

[Laza 45]

The paradox of global warming and colder winters..

 

https://whowhatwhy.org/2019/11/23/the-paradox-of-global-warming-and-colder-winters-2/

 

[Chazar]

2 hours ago, Brunolem said:

Why do you think the US wanted to buy Greenland recently?

minerals  and to  stop  anyone  else  building military bases  there..............but  you  wont  like  to  hear  that

[Brunolem]

20 minutes ago, Chazar said:

minerals  and to  stop  anyone  else  building military bases  there..............but  you  wont  like  to  hear  that

And nobody has thought about those minerals before? 

 

Or is it that they were not accessible through kilometers of ice until recently? 

 

As for military bases, no need for the US to worry, it is the sole constructor of these beauties, with a collection of over 800 spreaded over more than 100 countries... the competitors, if any, are still playing in their sand box... 

[Brunolem]

3 hours ago, brokenbone said:

greenland added 250 billion ton of ice over the past 3 years,

and was practically ice free 1 million years ago

https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1138234-activist-thunberg-denounces-creative-pr-in-climate-fight/?do=findComment&comment=14851679

And glaciers are expanding worldwide... 

 

And soon we will be able to cross on foot between Alaska and Russia, and maybe also between Norway and Canada... 

[brokenbone]

51 minutes ago, Laza 45 said:

The paradox of global warming and colder winters..

 

https://whowhatwhy.org/2019/11/23/the-paradox-of-global-warming-and-colder-winters-2/

 

no, you cant have your cake and eat it too,

fundamentally its multiple climate sinus waves,

entirely unrelated to co2 i might add

[brokenbone]

9 minutes ago, Brunolem said:

And glaciers are expanding worldwide... 

 

And soon we will be able to cross on foot between Alaska and Russia, and maybe also between Norway and Canada... 

let us pray next glacial period dont dip that deep

[Krataiboy]

3 hours ago, Brunolem said:

Scientists are generally very bad at communicating.

 

One of the big mistakes they have made regarding climate change is to talk in averages, which do not reflect at all the reality.

 

Water levels may rise 3.6 mm per year...on average...but they don't rise uniformely all over the planet.

 

As surprising as it may seem, there exist large water level differences from one spot to another in a given ocean.

 

The same is true for temperatures...these same scientists keep on talking about their 1.5 or 2 degree increase in temperature, which is an average that exists nowhere.

 

The fact is that, while in some areas temperatures are not increasing one bit, in other areas, such as the North Pole, for example, they increase a lot...by around 5 degrees C actually.

 

Even if the rest of the world remained stable, which is not the case, the destabilization of the North Pole would by itself wreak havoc on all the planet.

 

Consider that the ice that covers Greenland, and is melting at alarming speed, is enough to raise the oceans levels by 6 to 7 meters! And this is happening, one can see it in real time on countless films, for the sceptics.

 

Why do you think the US wanted to buy Greenland recently?

Not for ice skating, but because they know that soon enough it will be possible to dig in the ground, free of ice, never mind if Manhattan and Miami are underwater at that time, that's not the problem of multinational corporations...

Don't panic. Ice, wherever it happens to be, does tend to melt in the sun. Hoever, the past three years, Greenland’s surface has gained 250 billion tons more ice than “normal.” 

 

2017 : +200 billion   2018 : +150 billion   2019 :  -100 billion

 

[Krataiboy]

6 hours ago, Laza 45 said:

Carbon Dioxide levels at highest levels in 3 million years.. here is why you should be concerned..

 

 

The stuff coming out of those towers is not CO2, but steam. But why let facts spoil a good scare story from a globalist outfit using climate change to force us into accepting the unacceptable?

 

'Welcome to 2030. I own nothing, have no privacy, and life has never been better'

 

This is the headline above an article by a Scandinavian nutjob called Ida Auken on the WEF's official website. Want to learn more? Be my guest. . . 

 

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/11/shopping-i-can-t-really-remember-what-that-is/