Must Read In historic moment, U.S. House impeaches Donald Trump for abuse of power

[soalbundy]

On 12/19/2019 at 8:55 AM, TopDeadSenter said:

Beyond farcical. This spells doom to the democrat party. I don't think anybody even has any idea why he is being impeached? Because Ambassador Sondland "presumed" there was quid pro quo? Just shocking how bad the democrat party has handled this and let down the American people.

 I trust in the judgement the American people will decide in November 2020. Roll on the Trump Train!!

 

Presumed ? and the transcript of his 'perfect phone call' ? Why was Trump frightened of having WH officials testifying ?  Perhaps he presumed that the truth would see the light of day.  

[heybruce]

3 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

No. The issues for this impeachment fiasco are 1)no crime took place. 2) there is no victim of the said non existent crime. 3)no evidence exists other than hurt feelings and presumptive assumptions by civil servants. 4)the urgency to remove the dire threat to America has suddenly disappeared now Nancy passed her bonkers articles. 5) the real quid pro quo'er and his dodgy son are still free and one is even campaigning to be the next POTUS. 6)The democrats made no effort to hold impartial hearings in the house 7) Trump is impossible to kick out since he succeeded on all promises he made, best President ever and we need a 2nd term at least. 

 

I think you actually believe the nonsense you post, which is sad.  I won't address all the nonsense, it has been explained to you before.  I'll just point out what nonsense your seventh statement is:

 

Trump has not succeeded at all the promises he made.  He promised to build a wall and make Mexico pay for it.  He hasn't.  He promised to repeal and replace Obamacare with something better and cheaper.  He hasn't.  He promised to eliminate the budget deficit.  It's gone up.  He promised to reduce the trade deficit.  It has also gone up.  He promised to drain the swamp.  His administration has been full of former lobbyists and other swamp creatures, many which left after numerous ethical violations. 

 

The only promises he's kept that I can think of are to appoint conservative judges (Moscow Mitch gets most of the credit for that) and to cut taxes, which has led to the increasing budget deficits.

 

However I think your denial of reality is so strong you will deny these undeniable facts.

[mogandave]

1 hour ago, heybruce said:

I think you actually believe the nonsense you post, which is sad.  

Sad? I think it’s scary when you realize people people aren’t lying, that they actually believe much of this stuff.

[Peter Denis]

6 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

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7) Trump is impossible to kick out since

- he succeeded on all promises he made,

- best President ever and

- we need a 2nd term at least.

I need to leave this thread.

Somebody combining these 3 statements is simply not susceptible to facts and reason.  Hopeless case.

Also with some scary venom in the tail, 'at least' > Trump to be crowned Emperor after his 2nd term? 

[Sujo]

6 minutes ago, Peter Denis said:

I need to leave this thread.

Somebody combining these 3 statements is simply not susceptible to facts and reason.  Hopeless case.

Also with some scary venom in the tail, 'at least' > Trump to be crowned Emperor after his 2nd term? 

Yes it is a real eye opener how far from reality some trump supporters are. But you have to understand, if they had logic and accepted facts then they wouldnt be trump supporters.

[mogandave]

44 minutes ago, candide said:

What exactly is written that supports your claim (and where)?

It’s what is not written. There is nothing in the text about it needing to be sent to the Senate. Given the text, under the circumstances, their are only two scenarios. 
 

1. The President is not actually impeached.

 

or

 

2. The President is impeached, the House has has no more authority and the Senate can do with it as it sees fit. There is nothing else required of the House to proceed with and complete the trial. 
 

I assume Noah Feldman says the President is not impeached because the is the best case for the left, but it can be argued either way.

[Scott]

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