Popular Post yogavnture Posted December 19, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 19, 2019 im in hcmc. trying to get a 2 month visa to the kingdom. its just too much information needed. firstly i gave them the business card to my hotel i have stayed in thailand for 10 years. not good enuf they need a letter from the hotel with official stamp . that is regulation one that is too much for me........secondly the bank statement ........i came to the consulate with 40000 baht in cash. not good enuf for them they want a copy of my bank statement. im sorry , but i dont give my bank statement to anyone. that is personal information. 1 1 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BritTim Posted December 19, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 19, 2019 When a consulate asks for financial proof, they want something they can put in their files. Putting your 40,000 baht cash there would presumably not be acceptable to you, and would be an invitation to thieves. You may not like it, but the bank statement requirement is very common. Indeed, if you were applying for a Non O visa with a view to retirement, they would demand to see a bank statement showing at least 800,000 baht. Immigration offices in Thailand also often demand to see bank statements, sometimes covering the previous 12 months. If showing a bank statement to Thai officialdom is a deal breaker, these days you can forget about getting most categories of visa at most Thai consulates. Their being strict about the accommodation proof is annoying. It can be overcome with a printout of a hotel reservation. If this is inconvenient, it is possible to make hotel bookings that can be cancelled without penalty. This particular requirement is dumb for that reason. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeman01 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Penang is much more easy, i would try Cambodia also and using an agent. Maybe try to find an agent in ho chi minh, might be less strict requirements. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post freeman01 Posted December 19, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 19, 2019 For the hotel booking, just reserved 10 days in some <deleted>ty guesthouse on booking.com that you can cancel with no fees. They won't check where you go after you are in the country. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Matzzon Posted December 19, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 19, 2019 3 hours ago, yogavnture said: im sorry , but i dont give my bank statement to anyone. that is personal information. Ok, your choice! If you do not give them what they ask for, I guess you can as well kiss your visa good bye at HCMC. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogavnture Posted December 20, 2019 Author Share Posted December 20, 2019 12 hours ago, DrJack54 said: Well you won't be getting a visa. BTW don't even consider retiring to Los in future if you consider a photocopy of bank book page a breach of your human rights. You need flight into Los along with onward flight. Photocopy of bankbook. Photocopy of passport identity page and most recent departure stamp. Hotel booking (can be fictitious). Application form. Drop off am and pick up on next day pm It's not hard! my bank is basically my credit card .................can i photo copy a page of the credit card page would they accept that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogavnture Posted December 20, 2019 Author Share Posted December 20, 2019 can i just submit a copy of my credit card statement instead. can anyone use that information for fraud? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogavnture Posted December 20, 2019 Author Share Posted December 20, 2019 i only stay in thailand for more than 30 days once a year. in this case i want to stay 57 days. i can always just extend the 30 days. more easily inside the kingdom at immigration. i dont beleive they ask for bank statement in that case. to be blunt it seems to be a way to make money...............40 dollars out of kingdom with legwork. 60 dollars inside the kingdom with fewer demands upon me. im not a lifer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Some off topic inflammatory posts and replies to them have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell17au Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Unfortunately for you sir Thailand and Thai Immigration set the rules on what is acceptable for a visa the same as any other country does and if you do not want to supply all the information that they deem is required then they have the right to refuse you a visa. Just a word of caution, do not get into an argument and try to tell Thai officials what they are to accept and what they are not going to get or you might find that you will not get any visa. I saw this happen in Laos recently. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogavnture Posted December 20, 2019 Author Share Posted December 20, 2019 i basically use my credit card as my bank.........can i just print off my credit card statement and submit that ? i have a cash access line of 4500 dollars on it........ would that work??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogavnture Posted December 20, 2019 Author Share Posted December 20, 2019 im sorry if i got angry . i have been coming for 20 years and i didnt realize how strict they have become in the past few years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 10 minutes ago, yogavnture said: i basically use my credit card as my bank.........can i just print off my credit card statement and submit that ? i have a cash access line of 4500 dollars on it........ would that work??? You could try but is says bank statement on their website. "Bank statement is reqired within 3 months Evidence of adequate finance (20,000 Baht per person and 40,000 Baht per family)" Source: http://www.thaiembassy.org/hochiminh/en/services/7442/80804-For-Non-Vietnamese-passport-holder-|-Dành-cho-ngườ.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogavnture Posted December 20, 2019 Author Share Posted December 20, 2019 12 hours ago, ubonjoe said: You could try but is says bank statement on their website. "Bank statement is reqired within 3 months Evidence of adequate finance (20,000 Baht per person and 40,000 Baht per family)" Source: http://www.thaiembassy.org/hochiminh/en/services/7442/80804-For-Non-Vietnamese-passport-holder-|-Dành-cho-ngườ.html i have bank statements but quite a bit of money in them and i prefer to keep that private 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelboy Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 All smells a bit fishy to me. If you have the right documentation then you get your visa. I thought the Thai consulate in HCMC were very good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 7 minutes ago, yogavnture said: i have bank statements but quite a bit of money in them and i prefer to keep that private Many people submit them and have not had a problem later. Only the staff at the consulate see it. Not sure what anybody could do with only a bank statement. You could probably redact part of the account number and they would accept it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogavnture Posted December 20, 2019 Author Share Posted December 20, 2019 12 hours ago, kelboy said: All smells a bit fishy to me. If you have the right documentation then you get your visa. I thought the Thai consulate in HCMC were very good they do seem good. i guess im used to the old way...i didnt realize they have gotten strict. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogavnture Posted December 20, 2019 Author Share Posted December 20, 2019 11 hours ago, ubonjoe said: Many people submit them and have not had a problem later. Only the staff at the consulate see it. Not sure what anybody could do with only a bank statement. You could probably redact part of the account number and they would accept it. wouldnt it be easier im my case to get my 60 day visa inside the kingdom after my first 30 days are up (getting the extra 30 days).? i pay 20 dollars more for this , but easier? or maybe they are asking for the bank statement as well ???????? i did kind of get angry with the embassy the best i could i did everything right i thought spending my valuable time and at the end of it. they wanted hotel booking and bank statement that is relatively new requirements. i understand if i want the visa i must follow the rules. but maybe better just pay the 20 bucks extra and go to thai immigration in thailand for the extension Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 20 minutes ago, yogavnture said: wouldnt it be easier im my case to get my 60 day visa inside the kingdom after my first 30 days are up (getting the extra 30 days).? i pay 20 dollars more for this , but easier? or maybe they are asking for the bank statement as well ???????? i did kind of get angry with the embassy the best i could i did everything right i thought spending my valuable time and at the end of it. they wanted hotel booking and bank statement that is relatively new requirements. i understand if i want the visa i must follow the rules. but maybe better just pay the 20 bucks extra and go to thai immigration in thailand for the extension Actually the financial proof is not new. It has been on the MFA website for at least a decade. But most embassies and consulates did not enforce it or the tickets out. The proof of accommodation is fairly new. Source: http://www.mfa.go.th/main/en/services/4908/15398-Issuance-of-Visa.html Financial proof, accommodations and a ticket out are not required to apply for the 30 day extension at immigration. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKresonant Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Maybe a good idea to have a bank account, without the main bit of your finance showing for next time. I try to have an account which is partially configured to try and anticipate what the next income requirements may be. There was a post not so long ago, saying some folk in Finland were getting asked something like 6000 euros to be in a bank, for six months, for a tourist visa! Not ideal a month before you are going, if you only have 5999 Euros in the account. I can certainly see that only just sufficient info is appropriate, and agree with your concerns, about not giving over all your financial details. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natway09 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 I think there is something you are not telling us. Paranoa over giving them a bank statement being one of them when you can clearly sign over "for immigration purposes only" Something to hide ?? Your chances of ever staying long term in Thailand with this attitude are very slim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouse123 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 4 hours ago, yogavnture said: they do seem good. i guess im used to the old way...i didnt realize they have gotten strict. Thai officialdom love documents and paper, it's the way it is. If you require something from them and they have rules laid down in a book, they are not going to give you leeway unfortunately. I feel you are worrying unnecessarily with regards to giving an official body such as a Thai consulate or Embassy official documents such as bank statements. Also, threatening never to return or spend your money elsewhere doesn't work either, many have tried and failed. It falls on deaf ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moe666 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 5 hours ago, yogavnture said: i basically use my credit card as my bank.........can i just print off my credit card statement and submit that ? i have a cash access line of 4500 dollars on it........ would that work??? no just come on the 30 day and extend, your suggesrions will not move immigration 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogavnture Posted December 20, 2019 Author Share Posted December 20, 2019 17 hours ago, ubonjoe said: Actually the financial proof is not new. It has been on the MFA website for at least a decade. But most embassies and consulates did not enforce it or the tickets out. The proof of accommodation is fairly new. Source: http://www.mfa.go.th/main/en/services/4908/15398-Issuance-of-Visa.html Financial proof, accommodations and a ticket out are not required to apply for the 30 day extension at immigration. thats what i figured. just easier and faster pay the 20 bucks more and do it in the kingdom at immigration. they also say on the website if your visa denied you dont get your money back................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogavnture Posted December 20, 2019 Author Share Posted December 20, 2019 16 hours ago, natway09 said: I think there is something you are not telling us. Paranoa over giving them a bank statement being one of them when you can clearly sign over "for immigration purposes only" Something to hide ?? Your chances of ever staying long term in Thailand with this attitude are very slim i dont want to stay long term only 57 days. all these rules are because of the long term westerners skirting the visa rules to stay long term. which hurts people like me that just want a long vacation. i have no intent to work or live here............. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJack54 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, yogavnture said: i dont want to stay long term only 57 days. all these rules are because of the long term westerners skirting the visa rules to stay long term. which hurts people like me that just want a long vacation. i have no intent to work or live here............. What rules? You only want 57 days....heck as you yourself mentioned just arrive VE and do a 30 day extension. Or exit Los and re-enter. Why bother with setv Saigon then jump onto Thaivisa complaining about the consulates very simple rules to follow in order to obtain a setv (which you don't even need). I'm in Hanoi. If we're Saigon I would be in Bui Vien street. Give it a try and fly back to bkk. I suggest DM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaRoadrunner Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 On 12/19/2019 at 10:54 AM, yogavnture said: they want a copy of my bank statement. im sorry , but i dont give my bank statement to anyone. that is personal information. You are not coming then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 1 hour ago, DaRoadrunner said: You are not coming then? If you were to read back through the topic few post he apparently has decided to enter visa exempt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeman01 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, yogavnture said: i did kind of get angry with the embassy Never ever get angry at a government workers (or anyone actually...) when in Asia , if you intend to travel there regularly you better understand that and apply it diligently. Also, at the end of the day getting angry on whatever only impact yourself and your health in a very negative way ... Requirement to show a bank statement is pretty standard everywhere in the developed world, no surprise they start requesting this in south east asia, nothing to do with people abusing tourist visa, a bank statement is hardly something hard to produce for most of everyone wanting to stay in Thailand ... Note that If you could get an official paper from your bank stating your name, address and current balance they would likely accept that. Unless of course you behave like an angry old hag in which case they will stick very strictly to their rules and might even invent new ones if they are really pi.ssed. Edited December 20, 2019 by freeman01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJack54 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 16 minutes ago, freeman01 said: Never ever get angry at a government workers (or anyone actually...) when in Asia , if you intend to travel there regularly you better understand that and apply it diligently. Also, at the end of the day getting angry on whatever only impact yourself and your health in a very negative way ... Requirement to show a bank statement is pretty standard everywhere in the developed world, no surprise they start requesting this in south east asia, nothing to do with people abusing tourist visa, a bank statement is hardly something hard to produce for most of everyone wanting to stay in Thailand ... Note that If you could get an official paper from your bank stating your name, address and current balance they would likely accept that. Unless of course you behave like an angry old hag in which case they will stick very strictly to their rules and might even invent new ones if they are really pi.ssed. Why so sympathetic to strange op attitude? No bank would do what you suggest. In any event the OP has such enormous amount in bank? If was half serious would have secondary bank account. Most people have several. Seriously just another nonsense thread from stick in the mud type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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