Popular Post webfact Posted December 27, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 27, 2019 Kratom leaves dropped from narcotics list By THE NATION Justic Minister Somsak Thepsuthin and Minister of Public Health Anutin Charnvirakul signed a Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) today (December 27) to remove Kratom leaves from Thailand’s list of narcotics. It aimed to study the impact of using marijuana and kratom leaves for other purposes, instead of as narcotics. Witnesses at the MOU signing included representatives of the Office of Narcotics Control Board (ONCB) and other relevant agencies. Somsak has said that kratom leaves did not match the narcotics characteristics specified by World Health Organisation (WHO). “Those who use them can stop using it easily, and the leaves can be used as herb to relieve pain, fever, dysentery, or diarrhea. Also, it is better than morphine thirteen times in killing pain.” he said. Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30379916 -- © Copyright The Nation Thailand 2019-12-27 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fasteddie Posted December 27, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 27, 2019 Wow, common sense in Thailand, who'd have thought? 22 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TooBigToFit Posted December 27, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 27, 2019 So what does this mean to the average person? Can we buy it? Grow it? Put a couple leaves in a tea at work on a stressful day? Strangely, Kratom use has been booming in the US it seems from all the media I've seen. Thailand seems to be following or reacting to the US with all of its drug moves lately. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post metisdead Posted December 27, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 27, 2019 A troll post lobbying for POTY votes has been removed. 3 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cyril sneer Posted December 27, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 27, 2019 Would still get jailed for possesion I assume, unless you can pay the bribe 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Oziex1 Posted December 27, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 27, 2019 56 minutes ago, fasteddie said: Wow, common sense in Thailand, who'd have thought? Yes Thai common sense, causes me to believe someone's in for an investment opportunity. 7 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post from the home of CC Posted December 27, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 27, 2019 imo this substance may end up being a game changer in fighting addiction to opioids, although the big pharma companies that caused the crisis won't give up this cash cow easily.. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post aussienam Posted December 27, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 27, 2019 This is great news. For those of us with chronic restless legs/arms syndrome (Willis Ekbom disease), Kratom has helped so many sufferers in countries where it has been legal. It means many sufferers have a viable alternative to ease the suffering of this debilitating disease. So many other drugs for RLS cause augmentation. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post justin case Posted December 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 28, 2019 how many years of "research" did they need to come to this conclusion btw it was legal for centuries, before government under pressure & lobby of big pharma made it illegal 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Inepto Cracy Posted December 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 28, 2019 Chap in southen africa took the seeds from Thailand, grew tress in southern africa, and now makes tons of money around the world, selling the product. Thailand was and is, just tooooo slow to pick up market trends. Always kowtowing to the people who think they know better. You lost out Thailand. 6 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post smutcakes Posted December 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 28, 2019 Well its not really been dropped as the title suggests they have mearly signed an MOU to start looking into dropping it. We all saw how far Anutins ban on farm chemicals got.... 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post oobar Posted December 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 28, 2019 17 hours ago, webfact said: Also, it is better than morphine thirteen times in killing pain. Huh? Can anyone with experience back up this statement, which seems absurd? 4 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wombat Posted December 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 28, 2019 well how easy was that to drop something from the narcotics list? now get serious and open up for alternative business that will benefit all with its by-products. lets not forget, never in the history of man has so much money been spent trying to find something wrong with a plant. 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAMHERE Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 (edited) Is this like where cops sent text to those that had arrest warrants, inviting them to a super bowl party. Then arrested those that showed up for the free food and drink? Be careful if you decide to purchase this stuff, it is still fine able. The prediction is that a lot of arrests, near arrests, and personal fines are still in the works between now and when Kratom is legalized. Edited December 28, 2019 by IAMHERE spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post saminoz Posted December 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 28, 2019 5 hours ago, aussienam said: This is great news. For those of us with chronic restless legs/arms syndrome (Willis Ekbom disease), Kratom has helped so many sufferers in countries where it has been legal. It means many sufferers have a viable alternative to ease the suffering of this debilitating disease. So many other drugs for RLS cause augmentation. I kept telling people I had restless arm disease but they just called me a <deleted>! 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Inepto Cracy said: Always kowtowing to the people who think they know better. Kowtowing to the big pharmaceuticals... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post uncleeagle Posted December 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 28, 2019 1 hour ago, oobar said: Huh? Can anyone with experience back up this statement, which seems absurd? Having been given morphine in hospital I cant imagine what 13 times more powerful would do because I was already in heaven when they had me on that stuff...I somehow doubt it can be true. After all, if it was true, then why would a controlled kratom not be used in hospitals instead of an equally controlled morphine? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Captain 776 Posted December 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 28, 2019 Always negative replies. Give credit where credit is due, at least they are making strides to finally legalize Pot and Kratom. I have done Pot “research” all over the world for 40+ yrs.........I can attest to the fact it is not harmful and back in the 80’s it was the only thing that gave my Dad any relief from his acute Rheumatoid Arthritis.........there is documented proof it has medicinal value for many ailments. Having been on Morphine for 3 yrs due to 5 inoperable degenerated discs, I will be happy to try Kratom and or CBD oil. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ExpatLife Posted December 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 28, 2019 1 hour ago, oobar said: Huh? Can anyone with experience back up this statement, which seems absurd? There is no way that Kratom is 13 times as strong as Morphine, that just shows the incompetence of these people. Oxymorphone, which is a highly abused opiate, is 3-7 times as potent than Morphine, and Acetylfentanyl is 15 times as potent. I am not quite sure where it fits on the scale, but I assume Morphine is actually more potent than Kratom. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phitsanulokjohn Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 23 minutes ago, Captain 776 said: Always negative replies. Give credit where credit is due, at least they are making strides to finally legalize Pot and Kratom. I have done Pot “research” all over the world for 40+ yrs.........I can attest to the fact it is not harmful and back in the 80’s it was the only thing that gave my Dad any relief from his acute Rheumatoid Arthritis.........there is documented proof it has medicinal value for many ailments. Having been on Morphine for 3 yrs due to 5 inoperable degenerated discs, I will be happy to try Kratom and or CBD oil. Well said that man. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tandor Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 18 hours ago, fasteddie said: Wow, common sense in Thailand, who'd have thought? ...we're on a roll. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tandor Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 39 minutes ago, uncleeagle said: Having been given morphine in hospital I cant imagine what 13 times more powerful would do because I was already in heaven when they had me on that stuff...I somehow doubt it can be true. After all, if it was true, then why would a controlled kratom not be used in hospitals instead of an equally controlled morphine? ...try 'approval' after about 10 years of studies and testing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tandor Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 2 hours ago, oobar said: Huh? Can anyone with experience back up this statement, which seems absurd? ..why 13? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiSePuede419 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 (edited) "Taking too much kratom can cause some unintended health problems, including agitation, seizures, rapid heart rate and high blood pressure. In extreme cases, kratom overdose can put a person into a coma, stop their breathing or cause kidney failure" Let me guess, Cannabis is still on the prohibited narcotics list and treated ounce for ounce or gram for gram the same as heroin, crack and methamphetamine. Yikes. ???? Edited December 28, 2019 by SiSePuede419 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiSePuede419 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 BTW, can anyone explain how a Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) today has the force "du juris" of an actual law? In America, MOUs mean nothing in a court of law. Basically, an MOU says you intend to do something in the future. OK, as of today I have issued a MOU saying I intend to strengthen my legs enough to win the Olympic metal for high jump. Go ahead and congratulate me on winning my gold medal. ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefaultName Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 As someone with recurring joint problems, something I could grow - as opposed to something from a factory - sounds good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sead Posted December 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 28, 2019 And so i guess that all those who is in prison for kratom is now going to be released? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwin Cameron Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 It's so good seeing Thailand thinking outside the box, Congratulations, unusual to see wise bureaucrats and politicions ..! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamesgplayemail Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 hello, how to use it to get high ? and where to buy it ? thank you ❤️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayaout Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 7 minutes ago, gamesgplayemail said: hello, how to use it to get high ? and where to buy it ? thank you ❤️ You can't buy it legally but it's a leave from a tree that is native to Thailand. You might want to do some reading: https://erowid.org/plants/kratom/kratom.shtml 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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