The most problems I've ever had in Thailand are in relation to dogs.

[ubonr1971]

I have to say that I think the Thai people are, in general, the most ignorant race when it comes to dogs. 

 

This morning I was taking my soi dog for a walk and looked into one of the passing buildings. I saw a 4 month old puppy in a birds cage with no water. 

 

Over the years Ive had many issues. We made the mistake of renting a house in one of the housing estates (villages) where all the houses look the same. It seemed that every house had a small ratty barking dog. The one across from had a dog howling at 1am every night. We approached the owner in a group with other neighbours and the owner was really angry towards me. They locked it away for a few nights and then it continued. We moved house.

 

At another house the old neighbours  a few doors up had some really old vicious male dogs that used to come to my front gate and growl at my dog- once biting my dog in the face. We wrote a letter warning them and problem mostly solved. More angry looks at me. 

 

At our current place, a lady has 6 small breed neglected dirty dogs that are quite vicious. One got out recently and ran for me and I hit it a few times. I had the lady screaming at me. She never takes the dogs for a walk and I think she has never washed them. They are just stuck in a small enclosure for life. 

 

We went around to the brother in laws house and their dog tried to hump my leg... suggested he get the dog de-sexed. Oh no we dont want to do that. 

 

Need I go on with more examples.... I get all sorts of looks when Im running with my soi dog. I think its most unusual that anyone would want to give their dog some exercise....

[Pilotman]

I think it's often a matter of education, rather than a national trait.  My near neighbours all have dogs, most are pets, not guard dogs and all are well cared for and protected.  Dare I say that they are all educated folk, good jobs, nice houses, 'middle class' if that means anyhing here. I agree that among some villiage folk, the attitude to dogs can often be one of unthinking neglect; they often seem to treat their kids in the same way.  

I want to add that it is one of the great negatives for life here, that a morning run in the countryside can be a dangerous passtime, as can walking your pet dog in out of the way places, all due to soi dogs and, at least around me, out of control monkeys. 

Edited December 28, 2019 by Pilotman

[ezzra]

many Thai people keeps animals without the basic clue as to how to care properly care for them other than throw some food scraps and water if they remember to do so, yet many keeps a menagerie of animals at home from the farm verity to the exotic expensive kind, on the other hand you have those who care and love their pets to death and spare no expense to give the the best care available, so go figure...

Edited December 28, 2019 by ezzra

[Pilotman]

We have two small dogs, one a year old, the other 7 months.  I would guess that the routine vet's bills have come to around 30,000 Baht and the weekly food bill is close to 800 Baht.  Out of the reach of many families.  

[sammieuk1]

I suppose if all else fails you could move to Vietnam I hear dogs are less of a problem there and you can get your own back on biting dogs????

[samsensam]

 

the way some locals treat dogs is shockingly ignorant/cruel, when i visited an ex's home i saw she kept two dogs locked in small cages all day when she was out at work, she never took them for proper walks, it was awful. i dumped her.

 

as soon as the temperature goes below 30 degrees locals in my area start putting t-shirts or other clothing on their, already hot, dogs, i assume, to keep them warm. idiots.

[richard_smith237]

Na-Rak without the responsibility...

 

The puppies are cute, owners become bored quickly and stop caring. 
Owners start neglecting their pets. 
 

Dog ownership should come with a licence & signed responsibility for the welfare of their pets & safety towards others.

 

Until people are made to be held accountable many will just not care. 

Unfortunately we live in an immature society unable to take responsibility for itself unless forced to do so (with so many aspects not just dogs). Unfortunately the ‘forced to do so part’ is completely ineffective.
 

A cultural shift towards responsibility and accountability is required to see improved societal social development - it’s a slow process but helped along In part by social media. 

[Hans007]

I onow its not make me popular....but here it goes:

 

They should realy kill all stray dogs in thailand....for sire in turist areas. Too many....too dangerous. My gf was bitten last august....police did not do anything. Hospital bill was about 7.000 bath..(realy) I myself got attacked 2 days ago while riding scooter...got lucky.

 

Thais are too ignorant to handle this problem.

 

Hans.

[Momofarang]

Use a bow and golf ball "pointed" arrows to salve dog problems. I find the weird fascination with dogs, particularly in a third world country difficult to comprehend. Need for servility? Or is it delegated agression?

[simple1]

50 minutes ago, ubonr1971 said:

I have to say that I think the Thai people are, in general, the most ignorant race when it comes to dogs. 

Agree. There again more than a few dog lovers where I now live, Australia, demonstrate practically psychopathic behaviour with their 'love' of dogs.

[Momofarang]

5 minutes ago, hyku1147 said:

My adopted dog pack, that lived on Wong Amat Beach, was rounded up, and then fed to crocodiles. The low life that ordered it was a developer from Bangkok.

The dogs were semi-domesticated - thus harmless; consequently, children loved to play with them.

Yeah, just tell that to the family of the kid who got killed by a stray, last week in Buriram.

[richard_smith237]

3 minutes ago, Hans007 said:

I onow its not make me popular....but here it goes:

 

They should realy kill all stray dogs in thailand....for sire in turist areas. Too many....too dangerous. My gf was bitten last august....police did not do anything. Hospital bill was about 7.000 bath..(realy) I myself got attacked 2 days ago while riding scooter...got lucky.

 

Thais are too ignorant to handle this problem.

 

Hans.

Harsh, but the only viable economic solution to the ‘dog issue’. 
 

Dogs should either have a collar identifying ownership. 
Owners should be held accountable (i.e. fined) for unrestrained dogs (i.e. Dogs wondering the street). 
Dogs without a collar are stray, gave no owner and thus should be ‘removed’.

 

 

[richard_smith237]

11 minutes ago, hyku1147 said:

My adopted dog pack, that lived on Wong Amat Beach, was rounded up, and then fed to crocodiles. The low life that ordered it was a developer from Bangkok.

The dogs were semi-domesticated - thus harmless; consequently, children loved to play with them.

 

 

 

Would you have taken responsibility if the dogs had bitten a child or caused a motorcyclist to fall ? 
 

We’re your ’adopted’ Dogs kept in a fenced area? 
 

How did the ‘developer’ get access to ‘your’ dogs? - were they wondering the streets as ‘strays’ ? 
 

Semi-domesticated? semi-ferral then, untrained, unrestrained a potential danger - this is the whole issue & these dogs will reproduce.
 

What the developer did was despicable, but the lack of responsibility forces despicable solutions. 

[VocalNeal]

If you did not do good things in a past life, You are reincarnated as a dog and therefore get the kind of life you deserve. 

 

Next question. 

[GalaxyMan]

34 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Dog ownership should come with a licence & signed responsibility for the welfare of their pets & safety towards others.

I've never been in any country that did any such thing.

 

Why do people insist on holding the Thai people to a Western standard? W.T.F. is wrong with you people? Do they treat their animals well? Not really. Is it really any different from most other countries? No, with the usual exceptions in North America and Northern Europe.

 

That said, there are a couple of howlers on our street that we have considered feeding special 'treats'. I hate dogs. I'm a pusssy man through and through. ????

[neeray]

Never could comprehend the sweater or coat on a dog when the temperature is in the twenties, or even a bit less.

Here's my "cold blooded" dog revelling in the snow. Probably 0 to 10 degrees Celsius that day.

She's enjoying every minute of it, no warming coat seen or needed.

 

 

 

Edited December 28, 2019 by neeray

[GalaxyMan]

6 minutes ago, neeray said:

Never could comprehend the sweater or coat on a dog when the temperature is in the twenties, or even a bit less.

People anthropomorphizing, thinking that their pets are like them.

[richard_smith237]

12 minutes ago, GalaxyMan said:

49 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Dog ownership should come with a licence & signed responsibility for the welfare of their pets & safety towards others.

I've never been in any country that did any such thing.

 

Why do people insist on holding the Thai people to a Western standard? W.T.F. is wrong with you people? Do they treat their animals well? Not really. Is it really any different from most other countries? No, with the usual exceptions in North America and Northern Europe.

 

That said, there are a couple of howlers on our street that we have considered feeding special 'treats'. I hate dogs. I'm a pusssy man through and through. ????

Dog ownership World Wide should come with a licence & signed responsibility for the welfare of their pets & safety towards others.

 

This opinion is not borne of some western superiority complex towards the Thai's, its borne of addressing a world wide issue that dog ownership comes with soft responsibilities in most countries, including my own [the UK].

 

That said in Thailand, dog ownership comes without any responsibility at all - this needs addressing. 

 

I love dogs. Sufficiently so to know that I can not adequately look after one given my currently lifestyle and frequency of travel. A Dogs welfare, my ability to look after it well and take responsibility for it should come well before my desire to own a dog - unfortunately, many do not have this opinion, the consequence is the stay dog issue.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[GalaxyMan]

5 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Dog ownership World Wide should come with a licence & signed responsibility for the welfare of their pets & safety towards others.

There's a lot of things on this planet that 'should' be but aren't.

[wgdanson]

1 hour ago, Pilotman said:

We have two small dogs, one a year old, the other 7 months.  I would guess that the routine vet's bills have come to around 30,000 Baht and the weekly food bill is close to 800 Baht.  Out of the reach of many families.  

What the hell are you feeding them. MY food bill does not come to Bht 800 a week !

[richard_smith237]

29 minutes ago, hyku1147 said:

My Dear Yappy Poodle ????- What part of "semi-domesticated" do you not understand?????

What part of 'Semi' do you not understand???

 

Semi-domestication: a captive state of a wild animal in which its living conditions and often its breeding are controlled by humans.

 

You want to believe that animals you have partial control over cannot hurt a child. Many dog owners think like this. 

 

I've only ever met two dog owners who face the risks of dog ownership with full intelligence and logic. Their comments to me were along the lines of "please keep an extra eye open with your son, our dog is extremely well trained, but its still a dog, there is always a risk it can bite, even in play"

 

But, the issue here is not dog owners, its stray dogs causing problems, dogs without owners or in your case, dogs with 'partial ownership'

 

I ask again, if your 'semi-domesticated' dog bit a child would you take responsibility? or, would you hide like many of these 'part time carers' for dogs only to surface for compensation when the stray is hit by a car.

[richard_smith237]

1 minute ago, GalaxyMan said:

8 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Dog ownership World Wide should come with a licence & signed responsibility for the welfare of their pets & safety towards others.

There's a lot of things on this planet that 'should' be but aren't.

Agreed, and accepting that as is would be pointless in a forum designed for open discussion. 

 

 

[CGW]

2 hours ago, ubonr1971 said:

I have to say that I think the Thai people are, in general, the most ignorant race when it comes to dogs. 

Do you not drive, are you deaf? excuse the straightforward questions but, lovely smiley people though the Thai's are, they are totally inconsiderate of anyone other than themselves, have you not noticed, dogs, noise, driving - the vast majority simply don't give a dam! ????

Daily rant over, feel better now ???? 

[Vacuum]

1 hour ago, Pilotman said:

We have two small dogs, one a year old, the other 7 months.  I would guess that the routine vet's bills have come to around 30,000 Baht and the weekly food bill is close to 800 Baht.  Out of the reach of many families.  

Two small dogs and a weekly food bill at 800 baht. What are you feeding them, foie gras?

[EricTh]

Thai people are dog lovers.

 

One of my neighbour's dogs keep howling life a wolf every night for one hour, and my neighbour must be deaf because he didn't think it is a problem.

 

 

Edited December 28, 2019 by EricTh

[richard_smith237]

2 minutes ago, EricTh said:

Thai people are dog lovers.

 

I'm not so sure of that. It would seem to me that when given conscious thought Thai people may aspire to the concept of Buddhism which loves all living things. But when out of sight out of mind they really don't don't care, because well, why would they? their dog is 'out of sight out of mind' !

 

It also seems that many will hide behind a Buddhist belief (excuse) not to deal with an issue. 

 

I recall when working in Thailand we had an 'Ant problem' in a portable dining room (mess cabin) at a work site. 

I asked the head of catering to deal with it, put some poison down, spray etc and deal with (kill) the Ants. She responded that she was Buddhist and couldn't kill living things. I responded with the kind understanding that she would be fired if any of the eating area's are found to be unclean - 'ant issue' issue resolved that day !

 

The 'stray dog issue' is an issue because of a combination of apathy and an excuse for the apathy to hide behind.

 

[wgdanson]

2 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

she was Buddhist and couldn't kill living things

As she cooked and tucked into a nice pork chop!   LOL

[BestB]

1 hour ago, Momofarang said:

Yeah, just tell that to the family of the kid who got killed by a stray, last week in Buriram.

No actually , tell that to retarded granny who let 3 year old roam unsupervised out in the wild where 3 year old could have been hurt or killed 100 different ways 

[Pilotman]

52 minutes ago, Vacuum said:

Two small dogs and a weekly food bill at 800 baht. What are you feeding them, foie gras?

3 small cans of Caesar Dog Food each day between them. it's between 35 and 40 Baht per can, so 7 days at 105 to 120 per day. You can do the maths. I am not going to be responsible for the lives and health of  two dependant dog's and then feed them <deleted>.  

[Pilotman]

1 hour ago, wgdanson said:

What the hell are you feeding them. MY food bill does not come to Bht 800 a week !

see my answer below, or above.  If you are living on 800 Baht a week, you are not going to live very long my friend.