Pattaya: Thai maid savaged by Rottweilers in shop - is this breed really gentle and loving?

[poohy]

6 hours ago, tropo said:

So you've had Rottweilers and therefore don't believe they are dangerous? I don't believe the young girl who was savagely attacked by 3 would agree, and the rest of us won't either. Judging by the blood and injuries, you'll have a hard job convincing people they are playful, unless biting girls is considered play. We could have been discussing the death of a girl here - she was lucky.

 i was talking about MY dogs they were not dangerous its how you train them

Therefore  IMHO i dont consider this breed dangerous of course these ones bit but we do not know their history any dog can bite!

Even  a placid dog can and will scare someone who is scared of dogs and the dogs realise this

[tinca tinca]

On 1/7/2020 at 10:53 AM, RotBenz8888 said:

No, because they're totally unpredictable.

like most dogs are, especially the Soi DOGS.....I stay well clear of them......

There is a Yank, roams jomtien who has  a van full of doggy  food, he feeds them !! 

He needs to be locked up.....

Edited January 8, 2020 by tinca tinca
after thought

[jak2002003]

10 hours ago, Curt1591 said:

As I stated, "Dogs are dogs. Any breed has the potential to attack. As predators, it's in their nature. It's just the some are better at it than others."

I realise that.  The OP is about one dog breed though, so I don't think people can say these large breeds are any less dangerous than smaller ones like poodles or Chihuahuas.  

[VocalNeal]

^ Chihuahuas would savage you, if they could.

[jak2002003]

21 hours ago, steven100 said:

 

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Two-month-old Aiden McGrew was in a baby swing inside his Ridgeville, South Carolina, home when the family dog, Lucky, mauled him. The Golden Retriever/Labrador mix pulled Aiden from the swing and tore off the child's legs. Aiden's father was sleeping while the vicious attack took place, and the boy's mother found his body when she returned home. Aidan was rushed to the hospital where he was pronounced dead.

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My god, that father was negligent.  'Sleeping' through the dog killing his baby?  Even sleeping when the baby was left totally unsupervised (with or without a dog about), and its strapped into a baby swing... the baby would have had any manner of accidents and the father would be sleeping.  

18 hours ago, AtlasAus said:

 

 

Same can't be said for the pool cleaner salesman who open my back gate even though the dogs were clearly upset by his presence... After all that is their job. Or the seven day Adventists who thought it was a good idea to come through my gate when I was mowing. The dogs let them in, but they weren't leaving... I have many examples of stupid people... It's too easy to say it was the dogs fault...  

I see, so you are saying your dogs are dangerous to anyone who comes into you home?  You clearly are one of those owners who has not taken time to socialise and train you dogs to be friendly around people, unless you wanted them to frighten and potentially bite people.  Will you be so happy if they seriously injured some innocent person on your property like in the OP? 

 

6 hours ago, Elkski said:

Dogs are predators .  All are capable of biting.  I would not mind a Dog free world. All dogs roaming free in Thailand should be fair game to be killed.  

You don't like dogs as they are predators?  So why single them out?  How about a tiger, lion, bear, shark, eagle, ferret free world too?  As for animals that can bite... that is just about all of them.  Oh, and humans are predators too.. judging my all the meat we eat... so why not just get rid of us while you are at it?

[Mac98]

On 1/6/2020 at 8:45 PM, BestB said:

It is a large size , powerful dog, an attack by a large powerful dog does lots of damage . If golden or any of the large breeds attacked , results would be the same.

 

• Labrador retrievers: 13.3%
• Pit Bulls: 8.4%
• German Shepherds: 7.8%
• Rottweilers: 3.9%
• Chows: 3.5%

Labradors lead the pack with the most number of attacks, which is a surprising discovery when taking into account the mild nature of the dogs.
https://chicagoinjurycenter.com/common-breeds

There are more labs, so more attacks. Key question is how many attacks were unprovoked, such as killing babies, or jumping fences to attack passerby, as opposed to defending their owners. 

[sirineou]

12 hours ago, Elkski said:

Dogs are predators .  All are capable of biting.  I would not mind a Dog free world. All dogs roaming free in Thailand should be fair game to be killed.  

We are all predators, the only difference is where we fit in the food chain. Dogs are pack animals, your family is their pack, how they are socialised and where they fit in your pack i the key to a good dog, All dog problems stem from that.

  Street dogs in Thailand are a problem, but the problem is not caused by the dogs but by the people and how they treat the dogs., a nationwide dog neutering program would eliminate the problem in less than a dog generation.  

[likewise]

I had a rottie in Krabi for 10 years, never had any issues. Now he is living with my Ex in our plantation, runs around freely doesn't harm anything, not even the chickens.

ALso had a Pittbull same thing, good as gold. Now living back home got a AMS, same thing, good as gold.

All 3 breeds are indeed, caring and loving dogs who will protect their owners. Usually if they lash out there is a reason for it, quite often bad upbringing by owner.

Don't blame the dog, aren't humans supposed to be the intelligent breed??

[Traubert]

Just stop feeding you dog and see how placid and friendly he is.

 

One of the family? It's just there for the food.

[Traubert]

6 hours ago, jak2002003 said:

MHow about a tiger, lion, bear, shark, eagle, ferret free world too?  As for animals that can bite... that is just about all of them. 

How many of them have you got in your house then?

 

People dont even let ferrets in 'cos they stink.

[tlandtday]

On 1/7/2020 at 10:45 AM, BestB said:

It is a large size , powerful dog, an attack by a large powerful dog does lots of damage . If golden or any of the large breeds attacked , results would be the same.

 

• Labrador retrievers: 13.3%
• Pit Bulls: 8.4%
• German Shepherds: 7.8%
• Rottweilers: 3.9%
• Chows: 3.5%

Labradors lead the pack with the most number of attacks, which is a surprising discovery when taking into account the mild nature of the dogs.
https://chicagoinjurycenter.com/common-breeds

Of course because there are far more labs and they are almost always in contact with families or people while rotweilers are chained to Harleys.

[LomSak27]

On 1/7/2020 at 9:07 PM, AtlasAus said:

On 1/7/2020 at 2:07 PM, LomSak27 said:

NO, why is that even a question?! 

Have you ever owned one ? Clearly not. I have owned 5 during my lifetime, amazing dogs, very protective of their family.

No I haven't. However I do have some friends that had one and sadly there were problems. How does that old Thavisa line go, and this for a different breed, granted, but ... 

 

What expats say about Thai girlfriends and pitbulls, "but mine is different"

 

BTW I do have some pithy stories about what happens when farm dogs, "pets", start running in a pack, and given the chance they will, but that might upset some of the sensitive souls here on TV. 

[Stargeezr]

When I was a child, we had 3 German Shepherd dogs, I never liked any of

them, too aggressive, and they all got put down for killing the chickens.

 I was bit by a Doberman Pinscher, that did not like bikes, but no sign

saying dangerous dog. I also had a relative that had a Rottweiler but

it bit his son and got put down. I believe any dog can be dangerous, and

the large breeds can all do much more damage.

Geezer

[Orton Rd]

14 hours ago, likewise said:

I had a rottie in Krabi for 10 years, never had any issues. Now he is living with my Ex in our plantation, runs around freely doesn't harm anything, not even the chickens.

ALso had a Pittbull same thing, good as gold. Now living back home got a AMS, same thing, good as gold.

All 3 breeds are indeed, caring and loving dogs who will protect their owners. Usually if they lash out there is a reason for it, quite often bad upbringing by owner.

Don't blame the dog, aren't humans supposed to be the intelligent breed??

Rather like saying my grandad smoked 100 a day and lived to be 100, it's not about individual animals. Collectively they are not caring or loving but vicious killers when they can get away with it, they do not need a 'reason' it's just their nature to attack and kill. Being in a family just helps prevent that most of the time, if you are lucky. Rotties, staffies and pitties, I would kill every last one if possible.

[likewise]

11 hours ago, Orton Rd said:

Rather like saying my grandad smoked 100 a day and lived to be 100, it's not about individual animals. Collectively they are not caring or loving but vicious killers when they can get away with it, they do not need a 'reason' it's just their nature to attack and kill. Being in a family just helps prevent that most of the time, if you are lucky. Rotties, staffies and pitties, I would kill every last one if possible.

Lol, what a drama queen you are.

[megon]

There are no "killing" breeds!AT fault the education by the owners.

[richard_smith237]

On 1/8/2020 at 12:54 PM, jak2002003 said:

You don't like dogs as they are predators?  So why single them out?  How about a tiger, lion, bear, shark, eagle, ferret free world too?  As for animals that can bite... that is just about all of them.  Oh, and humans are predators too.. judging my all the meat we eat... so why not just get rid of us while you are at it?

 

 

Bit of a flawed argument there... Yes, all animals can bite, and those with a bite that can kill, maim or seriously injure a human are kept well away from humans in zoo’s or the Wild, with the exception of dogs. 

 

All pets can bite, but pets can’t kill, maim or seriously injure a human, with the exception of dogs. 

 

So.. your ‘bite’ argument is just daft. 

 

I have not read a single intelligent argument to suggest dogs are ‘safe’... all the comments suggesting dogs are safe are from wishful thinking dog lovers who hope their dogs are safe or anecdotal stories of ‘their dog never hurting anyone’ - the fact of the matter is ‘all dogs have a trigger’ and due to that ’trigger’ all ‘large dogs’ have the capacity to kill and seriously injure people, especially children. 

 

As for your ‘humans being predators too’ argument, that’s just daft. 

 

 

[jak2002003]

14 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Bit of a flawed argument there... Yes, all animals can bite, and those with a bite that can kill, maim or seriously injure a human are kept well away from humans in zoo’s or the Wild, with the exception of dogs. 

 

All pets can bite, but pets can’t kill, maim or seriously injure a human, with the exception of dogs. 

 

So.. your ‘bite’ argument is just daft. 

 

I have not read a single intelligent argument to suggest dogs are ‘safe’... all the comments suggesting dogs are safe are from wishful thinking dog lovers who hope their dogs are safe or anecdotal stories of ‘their dog never hurting anyone’ - the fact of the matter is ‘all dogs have a trigger’ and due to that ’trigger’ all ‘large dogs’ have the capacity to kill and seriously injure people, especially children. 

 

As for your ‘humans being predators too’ argument, that’s just daft. 

 

 

Stop and think about what you are saying. 

 

1.  Think about how many dogs are owned or stray in the world, then think how many people are killed or seriously injured by them a year.

 

2.  Compare this to the number of people that are killed and seriously injured by other people, cars, accidents in the home, like falling down stairs or tripping on a step, being bitten by mosquitoes, drowing... etc etc.  

 

You will see that statistically dogs are not such a danger as you are making out.

 

There are even more people killed and injured by farm animals like a cow or horse, than by dogs!

 

 

 

 

[jacko45k]

5 hours ago, jak2002003 said:

Stop and think about what you are saying. 

Have you got any recollection of the original post of this thread?

[Leaver]

7 hours ago, jak2002003 said:

Stop and think about what you are saying. 

 

1.  Think about how many dogs are owned or stray in the world, then think how many people are killed or seriously injured by them a year.

 

2.  Compare this to the number of people that are killed and seriously injured by other people, cars, accidents in the home, like falling down stairs or tripping on a step, being bitten by mosquitoes, drowing... etc etc.  

 

You will see that statistically dogs are not such a danger as you are making out.

 

There are even more people killed and injured by farm animals like a cow or horse, than by dogs!

 

 

 

 

Certain breeds of dogs have been bred to fight and / or kill. 

 

Should those breeds of dogs be under the control of irresponsible people, or people that chose to use the skill of that bred for the wrong reasons?