alex8912 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Bluespunk said: Nope. Tit for tat sums you up. Now go report. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Just now, alex8912 said: Tit for tat sums you up. Now go report. Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex8912 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 (edited) 55 minutes ago, White Christmas13 said: And by the way how is your shares in Boeing going? After they found another fault ? Their shares are rising now. I don’t post links here ever. Not needed. Just check any stock site now. Edited January 9, 2020 by alex8912 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tagged Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 16 minutes ago, impulse said: Rather than speculating, I'm just proposing that there are a lot of possibilities. Given the state of alert at the time, I can imagine there may have been some stealthy aircraft (manned or drones) over Iran that we'd never hear about. And there are many entities that could have benefited by blaming Iran for a shoot down. Add the uncertainty about the identity and actual nationalities of the passengers and crew, we will probably never know for sure what happened. Russians for sure 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 I am quite unsure about this case. On the one hand Trump says Iranians did it, which may be a lie as usual. On the other hand, the Iranians want to keep the black box, and that suggest they may have done it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyCarlton Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 (edited) 50 minutes ago, candide said: I am quite unsure about this case. On the one hand Trump says Iranians did it, which may be a lie as usual. On the other hand, the Iranians want to keep the black box, and that suggest they may have done it. The Irtanians won't hand the Black Box over to the US. Nor will Boeing be allowed on site. Hardly surprising is it? Edited January 9, 2020 by DannyCarlton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted January 9, 2020 Author Share Posted January 9, 2020 UPDATE: Iran most likely downed Ukraine airliner with missiles, U.S. officials believe By David Shepardson and Mark Hosenball FILE PHOTO: Debris of a plane belonging to Ukraine International Airlines, that crashed after taking off from Iran's Imam Khomeini airport, is seen on the outskirts of Tehran, Iran January 8, 2020. Nazanin Tabatabaee/WANA (West Asia News Agency) via REUTERS/File Photo WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. government believes Iran accidentally shot down a Ukraine airliner that crashed in Iran, killing all 176 people aboard, three U.S. officials told Reuters on Thursday. Full story: https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1142541-iran-most-likely-downed-ukraine-airliner-with-missiles-us-officials-believe/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayned Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 23 minutes ago, webfact said: UPDATE: Iran most likely downed Ukraine airliner with missiles, U.S. officials believe By David Shepardson and Mark Hosenball FILE PHOTO: Debris of a plane belonging to Ukraine International Airlines, that crashed after taking off from Iran's Imam Khomeini airport, is seen on the outskirts of Tehran, Iran January 8, 2020. Nazanin Tabatabaee/WANA (West Asia News Agency) via REUTERS/File Photo WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. government believes Iran accidentally shot down a Ukraine airliner that crashed in Iran, killing all 176 people aboard, three U.S. officials told Reuters on Thursday. Full story: https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1142541-iran-most-likely-downed-ukraine-airliner-with-missiles-us-officials-believe/ Let's spin to to say that Donald Trump as responsible for the plane being shot down.. Where would those passengers be today if he had not ordered to drone strike on Soleimani? Most likely they would have arrived at their final destination and not have their body parts strewn across the ground outside of Tehran! This is the kind of chaos that his rhetoric and actions cause. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cyril sneer Posted January 9, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 9, 2020 25 minutes ago, wayned said: Let's spin to to say that Donald Trump as responsible for the plane being shot down.. Where would those passengers be today if he had not ordered to drone strike on Soleimani? Most likely they would have arrived at their final destination and not have their body parts strewn across the ground outside of Tehran! This is the kind of chaos that his rhetoric and actions cause. Some of the Iranian passengers could have been future members of ISIS 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chazar Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 1 hour ago, wayned said: Let's spin to to say that Donald Trump as responsible for the plane being shot down.. Where would those passengers be today if he had not ordered to drone strike on Soleimani? Most likely they would have arrived at their final destination and not have their body parts strewn across the ground outside of Tehran! This is the kind of chaos that his rhetoric and actions cause. Lets just go the whole hog and blame their imaginary gods, if he/she /it/zhe/ hadnt invented us we wouldnt have been here to do this ......so its gods fault 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AverageBloke Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Frankly, I feel all governments are more than capable of deceit so the likelihood of us ever knowing the truth is remote at best. It's an easy trap to feel hatred for another country but in truth, most people are just like us, everyday Joe's busy trying to look after their families and putting food on the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 2 hours ago, webfact said: UPDATE: Iran most likely downed Ukraine airliner with missiles, U.S. officials believe By David Shepardson and Mark Hosenball FILE PHOTO: Debris of a plane belonging to Ukraine International Airlines, that crashed after taking off from Iran's Imam Khomeini airport, is seen on the outskirts of Tehran, Iran January 8, 2020. Nazanin Tabatabaee/WANA (West Asia News Agency) via REUTERS/File Photo WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. government believes Iran accidentally shot down a Ukraine airliner that crashed in Iran, killing all 176 people aboard, three U.S. officials told Reuters on Thursday. Full story: https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1142541-iran-most-likely-downed-ukraine-airliner-with-missiles-us-officials-believe/ Quite telling that these are not the air investigation experts claiming this. It could easily be correct, but the source is suspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LomSak27 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 1 hour ago, wayned said: Let's spin to to say that Donald Trump as responsible for the plane being shot down.. Where would those passengers be today if he had not ordered to drone strike on Soleimani? Most likely they would have arrived at their final destination and not have their body parts strewn across the ground outside of Tehran! This is the kind of chaos that his rhetoric and actions cause. Spinning a little too far here spin master. While I dislike POTUS intensely, trying to blame the shootdown on him is convoluted buffelepuckery of the first order. It appears the Iranians thought this was a response to their missile strikes, that they had just launched. How many Iranian Canadians were on board?! Killing there on people. Sad. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayned Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 46 minutes ago, LomSak27 said: Spinning a little too far here spin master. While I dislike POTUS intensely, trying to blame the shootdown on him is convoluted buffelepuckery of the first order. It appears the Iranians thought this was a response to their missile strikes, that they had just launched. How many Iranian Canadians were on board?! Killing there on people. Sad. I was only spinning it and that's wherer it stopped, collaterial damage to the Soleimani assassination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryingdick Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 (edited) 43 minutes ago, wayned said: I was only spinning it and that's wherer it stopped, collaterial damage to the Soleimani assassination. Actually it is collateral damage to the attempt to retaliate. When you try to kill people out of revenge you can't claim it was the wrong person as a defense. Many drive by shootings in America are like that. Edited January 10, 2020 by Cryingdick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GalaxyMan Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 On 1/8/2020 at 4:25 PM, GalaxyMan said: You couldn't pay me to board a 737. ???? Especially one flying anywhere near an Iranian anti-aircraft battery!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryingdick Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 1 minute ago, GalaxyMan said: Especially one flying anywhere near an Iranian anti-aircraft battery!!! The 737 is one of if not the plane with the best safety record in modern history. It pretty much takes a missile to take it down. The max on the other hand not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimmer Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Troll post removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 1 hour ago, stevenl said: Quite telling that these are not the air investigation experts claiming this. It could easily be correct, but the source is suspect. the 'Five Eyes' intelligence community have identified as an Iranian missile strike, but at this stage a mistake by shooting down a civilian aircraft. IMO makes sense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadWarrior371 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 4 hours ago, wayned said: Let's spin to to say that Donald Trump as responsible for the plane being shot down.. Where would those passengers be today if he had not ordered to drone strike on Soleimani? Most likely they would have arrived at their final destination and not have their body parts strewn across the ground outside of Tehran! This is the kind of chaos that his rhetoric and actions cause. Good job enabling others not to take responsibility for their actions. The world needs more of that. ???? Iran's stumbling and bumbling are directly responsible. Sadly, the only victims of their sabre-rattling missile attack seem to be their own citizens and others on the plane. They are welcome to spar with the United States, once they prove they can pull a gun from their hip without shooting themselves in the foot. ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivor bigun Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 As i said in the beginning looking more and more like they shot the plane down themselves ,more than likely ,by accident ,that or plain stupidity by the ones who fired the missile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayned Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Cryingdick said: The 737 is one of if not the plane with the best safety record in modern history. It pretty much takes a missile to take it down. The max on the other hand not so much. I actually crash landed one twice in the same day. Thankfully it was in the Boeing simulator in Washington. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pravda Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Anyone who says a passanger plane is shot by accident needs to have their head examined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, Pravda said: Anyone who says a passanger plane is shot by accident needs to have their head examined. So US Vincennes shot down the Iranian plane on purpose? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabas Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 3 hours ago, wayned said: I was only spinning it and that's wherer it stopped, collaterial damage to the Soleimani assassination. So in the end, it's all due to 20 years of Soleimani's extreme international terrorism and the person that put him in power and supported him. Supreme leader Khamenei. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaanbiker Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 (edited) On 1/8/2020 at 12:28 PM, Crossy said: Unverified video here ???? https://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/incidents/ukraine-international-airlines-plane-crashes-in-iran-shortly-after-takeoff/news-story/9e236d616378f3ecd958c25d330ba7e1 It's on fire in the air, perhaps hit by a missile? My condolences to the deceased and a lot of strength to the families and friends. RIP. Edited January 10, 2020 by Isaanbiker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaanbiker Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 1 hour ago, wayned said: I actually crash landed one twice in the same day. Thankfully it was in the Boeing simulator in Washington. I also crash landed twice on a plane carrier in the Indian ocean. Fortunately it was in a flight simulator of the US Army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RideJocky Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 44 minutes ago, stevenl said: So US Vincennes shot down the Iranian plane on purpose? Yes. As I understand it, we shot it down intentionally, after mistaking it for a fighter aircraft. Could be what happened here... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 (edited) Ah an honest mistake, I hate it when that happens, cleaning up the pieces of passenger jets from my backyard after I accidentally downed them with a ground-to-air missile is a chore. Edited January 10, 2020 by DrTuner 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryingdick Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 15 minutes ago, DrTuner said: Ah an honest mistake, I hate it when that happens, cleaning up the pieces of passenger jets from my backyard after I accidentally downed them with a ground-to-air missile is a chore. Yeah I agree. Attempted murder charges mixed with manslaughter and terrorism is a complete drag, It's almost like people aren't willing to forgive and forget. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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