ThaiBunny Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, ravip said: Airline pilots vs a restaurentier? It's the same business - customer service 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BritManToo Posted January 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2020 (edited) 36 minutes ago, bkk6060 said: It can be frustrating but not really their fault. Blame the government for not making them learn English in school. They all get taught English for 11 years in school. Maybe blame them for not learning. Oddly enough, my son aged 8, has been learning English for 3 years in his Thai school, and they class his English ability as 'poor', even though he's a native English speaker and chats all day in English at home. Makes you wonder! Edited January 20, 2020 by BritManToo 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 I attended a conference in Mexico several years ago, on the flight into Mexico City from LAX, a very loud woman from USA, who was also a fellow presenter, in the seat next to me, stated "I hope they speak decent english there", when I pointed out that a lot of the conference presentations from other world wide presenters whose native language was NOT English, would be translated into nominated languages through headsets, but the major language was Spanish, her indignation was one of entitlement and complete lack of respect for any other tongue. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, holy cow cm said: I can speak Thai pretty fluent, but I do cringe when I hear a foreigner using the word Farang and depending on how the tone is said and even then for when the Thai uses it. Does using the word farang give the foreigner a feeling of word superiority of mixing in with and trying to fit in? I think same same, mak mak. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ravip Posted January 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Mitkof Island said: From the foreigners i have encountered crude is too kind of a word. Some foreigners seem to think, all the 'poor' should worship them for that lovely foreign money they bring to feed the poor, without which they would become extinct in a couple of months due to starvation. Also, the poor should feel privileged to get literally kicked by these demigods... so they think. Edited January 20, 2020 by ravip 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Berkshire Posted January 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2020 11 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said: Stupid, provocative sign. If you can speak Thai, does that make it OK to complain about the staff's English? Why would any tourist need or want to speak Thai? If the restaurant is trying to attract tourist customers, they should employ staff with a reasonable level of English. I wonder if you live in the real world. I'll bet the people that wrote that sign just got fed-up...and I can't blame them. I have seen myself how some farangs can be total pr**ks when they're harassing Thai servers who are trying their best to understand. And as another said, Thais have to deal with all manner of foreigners. Do they have to be fluent in Chinese, Korean, Japanese, etc.? There are more Chinese speakers in the world than English. Anyways, I can see how some businesses see loss revenue as a cost they'd prefer to pay over having to deal with jerks. 4 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BritManToo Posted January 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2020 10 minutes ago, Mitkof Island said: I totally agree. Wish there were more signs like this. Me too, would let me know which business didn't need my custom. Plenty more that want me to spend money with them. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BRUFC Posted January 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, BritManToo said: They all get taught English for 11 years in school. Maybe blame them for not learning. Oddly enough, my son aged 8, has been learning English for 3 years in his Thai school, and they class his English ability as 'poor', even though he's a native English speaker and chats all day in English at home. Makes you wonder! Something similar to this, Britman? https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2kel00 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jingthing Posted January 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2020 I guess the sign could be worse though. Like the sign in San Francisco -- We cheat tourists and drunks. In Thailand it might be -- White people pay double. Love you! 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post johng Posted January 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2020 19 minutes ago, Andrew23 said: Yes, Thai is also an international language. Half of the world speak Thai. So, shut up uneducated moron. No matter how much the "democratic soldier" would like it to be, Thai language is never going to "the international language" English is still the international language and will be for some time yet. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy cow cm Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, BritManToo said: They all get taught English for 11 years in school. Maybe blame them for not learning. Oddly enough, my son aged 8, has been learning English for 3 years in his Thai school, and they class his English ability as 'poor', even though he's a native English speaker and chats all day in English at home. Makes you wonder! Yeah been there heard that, ignore Dat! I actually let mine get a grab on Thai first before they had to hunker down on the ole English. The bullying from little kids mouth's was not so kind way back in the day. Prodigy of the parents rotten mouth but the world is looking up as far as I see. Anyway, my kids are just fine right now in their later teens speaking English, just have a slight accent, but I love to hear it.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Just now, johng said: No matter how much the "democratic soldier" would like it to be, Thai language is never going to "the international language" English is still the international language and will be for some time yet. I think indefinitely. It would be Chinese but it won't be Chinese because it's … Chinese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post johng Posted January 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2020 Just now, Jingthing said: In Thailand it might be -- White people pay double. Love you! It is...they just write the Thai price in Thai so the "silly whities" can't read it and know that they are being overcharged. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Berkshire Posted January 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2020 1 minute ago, johng said: No matter how much the "democratic soldier" would like it to be, Thai language is never going to "the international language" English is still the international language and will be for some time yet. And neither will French, German, Russian, etc. be the international language. So what's your point? Perhaps next time in Paris, you can tell the French waiter to "Speak English you dumba*s!" I'm sure that will go over well. 2 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Just now, johng said: It is...they just write the Thai price in Thai so the "silly whities" can't read it and know that they are being overcharged. Yes, I'm aware of course but a sign like that in English with the Love You! would be precious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Crossy Posted January 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2020 59 minutes ago, Denim said: In other riveting news , a man crossed a busy road to go to a 7/11 store and survived. but was unable to pay his electricity bill because he had no ID card. 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post smedly Posted January 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2020 56 minutes ago, webfact said: Don’t complain about our English, If you can’t speak Thai” Nothing wrong with that statement if you are serving Thai people "but" you are entertaining and serving foreign tourists who generally "do not speak Thai", if you want tourists to continue to come here then make and effort to be good hosts - if your business is not doing well then blame the tourists/customers - typical Thai attitude of not owning their own issues and blaming everyone and everything else. So your statement is one of blatant ignorance and stupidity Lets refrase your statement to what it actually means In our country of Thailand were tourism makes up almost 20% of our GDP do not come here on holiday unless you speak Thai - go somewhere else New test for tourists at airports/borders - a Thai language test - if you don't pass you will be deported 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DrTuner Posted January 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2020 (edited) They are correct. If you don't speak Thai, don't come to Thailand. Tell all your friends. Khopkhunkhraaaaaaaap. Edited January 20, 2020 by DrTuner 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Yinn Posted January 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2020 27 minutes ago, ravip said: How many 'second languages' would a business have to learn according to common sense/good business sense? All 7-11 workers should spend years study English for the tourist? And supermarket worker? Fuel pump? 9000 baht/month. Pffft 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mister Fixit Posted January 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2020 55 minutes ago, ParkerN said: Yes. well. English is the default uniquitous language of the world. Obviously not for you though ... 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Yinn Posted January 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2020 1 minute ago, DrTuner said: They are correct. If you don't speak Thai, don't come to Thailand. Tell all your friends. Khopkhunkhraaaaaaaap. Not say that. it say not complain. Understand? Or not? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, johng said: It is...they just write the Thai price in Thai so the "silly whities" can't read it and know that they are being overcharged. More common is an English menu with raised prices, and a Thai menu with normal prices. I always grab the Thai menu. Never seen Thai numbers in a restaurant. Edited January 20, 2020 by BritManToo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, Berkshire said: "Speak English you dumba*s!" I'm sure that will go over well. Well if the waiter doesn't speak the international language how would they understand me asking them to speak English..and if I called them a dumda*s ( which I wouldn't because I'm not such a dumba*s ) and they kicked my dumba*s would that mean they do in fact speak the international language ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CharlieH Posted January 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2020 Happy to be corrected but is not English taught in Thai schools, is English not the Government approved 2nd language of Thailand and that is why ALL the major highways are signposted in English, most buildings and Government buildings etc all have their name in English script not only Thai script . Just an observation ???? 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yinn Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Yes, I'm aware of course but a sign like that in English with the Love You! would be precious. Jingthing live in Thailand many years right? Can you read Thai? Or are you illiterate? I ask before, but not answer. Can you complain in Thai language yet? Can you read any second language? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Baht Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Obviously expats in Thailand should learn Thai. But tourists shouldn't be expected to. And Thailand shouldn't complain when those tourists choose other destinations that cater to their needs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, Yinn said: Not say that. it say not complain. Understand? Or not? The idea is close enough. Other places are happy to provide service in English. Forget Thailand, leave it to the Chinese and let them learn mandarin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yinn Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, johng said: Well if the waiter doesn't speak the international language how would they understand me asking them to speak English..and if I called them a dumda*s ( which I wouldn't because I'm not such a dumba*s ) and they kicked my dumba*s would that mean they do in fact speak the international language ? They can speak English. They write the sign in English! Boring listen to people complain English not enough for SOME customer. Happen already. Reason make the sign. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy cow cm Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, Yinn said: All 7-11 workers should spend years study English for the tourist? And supermarket worker? Fuel pump? 9000 baht/month. Pffft Actually I love it when the 711 or supermarket workers don't speak English or not enough. I can float either way, but if they try I do also help them and not embarrass them. In the stores around me English is not really spoken so the conversation is Thai. Question Yinn: Can you look at a Foreigner and get a feeling they can speak Thai by the way they act and carry themselves? I get the feeling most Thai can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kingofthemountain Posted January 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2020 51 minutes ago, Yinn said: IMO eglish speaker never learn second language is most impolite. (USA, Aussie, NZ, England). And speak to quickly. Usually German, Italy, Holland, Korean, Chinese very polite about language misunderstanding. Because they understand it difficult. Have experience. I don't see the french in your list. So finaly you opened a restaurant? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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