SURVEY: Lopburi killer -- Death penalty or not?

[Scott]

There have been numerous threads about the 3 people killed in the gold shop robbery.   Which of the following best expresses your opinion on what the outcome should be for the defendant?

 

Please feel free to leave a comment.

[featography]

If one is so callous as to kill a child, not to discount the harmless others, would we really want him eventually set free with a Royal pardon, to be loose among the populace, or the populace pay taxes to support this one for the rest of his life in prison? The courts, judges should show the same level of thought in sparing his life as he showed while pulling the trigger on those he killed. 

[CharlieH]

Firstly I believe, or would like to believe that the bullet that killed the child was a stray bullet and not an intentional act.

 

That said, shooting someone 3 times is not an accident and the rest of the people were obviously intentional and deliberate and for that he deserves  execution in my opinion, the sooner the better.

[alien365]

The death sentence is too nice for him. Get him in jail so he gets to think about what he did for the rest of his long miserable life.

[ardsong]

I think, TV and the reporter of this topic, should refrain from such a question in public, as if to prevent people thinking, we have nor should have any say in the punishment of the suspect.

Let the justice system take care that is far better, than populist questions that could provoke revenge in some people

[RichardColeman]

4 minutes ago, alien365 said:

The death sentence is too nice for him. Get him in jail so he gets to think about what he did for the rest of his long miserable life.

And let people pay for him to live ? No, I think put into a room with the kids relatives and a few baseball bats.

[spinner2020]

I have no problem with death penalty for murderers, paedos and rapists* - as long as we are sure they are guilty, which in Thailand (and not only here) is hardly ever a foregone conclusion.

 

*I would add 'politicians', but I don't think we are allowed to....

[alien365]

3 minutes ago, RichardColeman said:

And let people pay for him to live ? No, I think put into a room with the kids relatives and a few baseball bats.

I doubt the courts could issue a death by baseball bat verdict. I'd also rather avoid turning innocent people into murderers.

 

I wouldn't mind paying an extra baht or two in tax per month for proper punishment.  

[holy cow cm]

Perhaps yes. By firing squad would be fun.

[bannork]

in The Daily News today, it says the people who knew him well all agreed the motive for robbery for his acumulating debts, nothing about an affair.

He was an avid player of the computer game pubg, a game that involves killing everyone else on an

island.

It seems the idiot couldn't distinguish betwen reality and a dumb game.

He shot the woman three times because his gloved finger got stuck on the trigger (so he claims).

His stray bullet ricochetted and killed the 2 year old.

He got such a small amount of gold because he arrived near to closing time so most of the gold had already been put away.

He's forfeited the right to live imo.

 

 

[Matzzon]

I voted No! The simple reason for that is, it´s too easy way out for the scum.

[hellohello123]

28 minutes ago, ardsong said:

I think, TV and the reporter of this topic, should refrain from such a question in public, as if to prevent people thinking, we have nor should have any say in the punishment of the suspect.

Let the justice system take care that is far better, than populist questions that could provoke revenge in some people

this is a forum, one of the points of a forum is to express your opinion,

 

the fact is this guy killed someone, as for motivations, its unclear at this point,

 

those that have an opinion, should be expressing it here, if they want to

[smutcakes]

The answer is No, especially with the Thai legal system and their ability to make errors. If you start offing people its a dangerous slope of what constitutes an offing offense, and really how much trust do you have in the police/judges to get things correct.

 

He will probably get his comeuppance in prison anyway.

[chickenslegs]

41 minutes ago, alien365 said:

The death sentence is too nice for him. Get him in jail so he gets to think about what he did for the rest of his long miserable life.

A life in prison is still a life. He will eat, sleep, exercise, converse/socialise with the other inmates, see the sun rise and set every day.

His victims have been robbed of all these pleasures, and more.

For extreme crimes like his, I think the death penalty is justified.

[Tracyb]

Shoot him in the head.  Just for “the thrill of it.”

[brewsterbudgen]

I'm against the death penalty in all circumstances.  Most civilised countries have rightly banned it. 

[xylophone]

6 minutes ago, Tracyb said:

Shoot him in the head.  Just for “the thrill of it.”

Yes, top him and be done with it........saves wasting money on him.

[smutcakes]

I presume everyone clicking yes is in favour of the two Burmese lads from the koh tao horror crime also get the treatment. Or does everyone get the choice of which prosecutions to believe or not?

[IvorBiggun2]

33 minutes ago, spinner2020 said:

I have no problem with death penalty for murderers, paedos and rapists* - as long as we are sure they are guilty

And how many of those 'murderers, paedos, etc have been found to be innocent after death or a long prison sentence.   

 

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The study, published in Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences determined that at least 4% of people on death row were and are likely innocent.

I think the Lopburi guy will get a life sentence. He'll then teach while in jail and due to good behaviour, and with palms greased, he'll be out in 5 years.

[neeray]

1 minute ago, smutcakes said:

I presume everyone clicking yes is in favour of the two Burmese lads from the koh tao horror crime also get the treatment. Or does everyone get the choice of which prosecutions to believe or not?

This one seems pretty black and white. I voted "yes".

Koh tao is not so black and white.

[smutcakes]

Just now, neeray said:

This one seems pretty black and white. I voted "yes".

Koh tao is not so black and white.

So we will have public sentiment deciding what happens from now on... yeah that will work.

[IvorBiggun2]

Just now, neeray said:

This one seems pretty black and white. I voted "yes".

Koh tao is not so black and white.

Depends on whose side you're looking at it. The legal side says they're guilty. Not much can be now done for them. Innocent or not.

[evadgib]

11 minutes ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

I think the Lopburi guy will get a life sentence. He'll then teach while in jail and due to good behaviour, and with palms greased, he'll be out in 5 years.

That's my fear too.

[CGW]

8 minutes ago, smutcakes said:

So we will have public sentiment deciding what happens from now on... yeah that will work.

Indeed, what has become of the world when a predominately expat forum is voting for the death penalty in a country where they are "guests" it has nothing whatsoever to do with us!

[evadgib]

10 minutes ago, smutcakes said:

So we will have public sentiment deciding what happens from now on... yeah that will work.

Where's the CCTV backing your baloney up?

[alien365]

27 minutes ago, chickenslegs said:

A life in prison is still a life. He will eat, sleep, exercise, converse/socialise with the other inmates, see the sun rise and set every day.

His victims have been robbed of all these pleasures, and more.

For extreme crimes like his, I think the death penalty is justified.

If we were in the West I'd agree with you, but considering prisons here are not nice places to be, I'd like to see this man who had everything see how rubbish life really can be. You can count the days if you like before he tries to top himself.

[worgeordie]

He said he did it for a thrill !, OK, so give him the biggest thrill

of his life, and put him in front of a firing squad,see how he 

likes to have a gun pointed at him and be shot.

regards worgeordie

[IvorBiggun2]

12 minutes ago, alien365 said:

If we were in the West I'd agree with you, but considering prisons here are not nice places to be

They're not as bad as people think they are. My BiL has been in 3 times. Once for attempted murder and twice for supplying drugs. I've been to 3 prison open days and life ain't that bad. So much so that i think within a short time of release my BiL will be back in.

[neeray]

36 minutes ago, smutcakes said:

So we will have public sentiment deciding what happens from now on... yeah that will work.

No we won’t because neither the word of “us” nor generally the public carries much wait. 

[Tulak]

1 hour ago, spinner2020 said:

I have no problem with death penalty for murderers, paedos and rapists* - as long as we are sure they are guilty, which in Thailand (and not only here) is hardly ever a foregone conclusion.

 

*I would add 'politicians', but I don't think we are allowed to....

Sad, but true ????