Dog attack: Pit Bull savages mother and toddler in NE Thailand

[androokery]

18 hours ago, jonclark said:

You know for all the comments on here about how violent 'pit bull' type breeds are (and I agree) . Their violent nature pales in comparison to the violence that the species know as homo-sapiens is able to inflict on itself and every other species on the planet. If an aggressive and violent pit bull attack results in people calling for the whole genetic family of pit bulls and associated lineages to be eradicated. What I wonder do they think a fit punishment should be for our species? Extermination too? Or do those arguments not apply because we are too educated and important. 

I'm guessing your argument is also valid for mosquitoes, ticks and rats?

[jak2002003]

On 1/29/2020 at 9:54 AM, BestB said:

Do tell how exactly they breed them to be violent?

They have been selectively bred to produced the strongest, best fighting, and most aggressive dogs by the people who take part in the dog fighting 'sport'.  Same as the fighting cocks here in Thailand... those roosters are mean and aggressive, and built to cause maximum injury to each other.... not the same as a normal rooter.  

 

On 1/29/2020 at 10:15 AM, BestB said:

Any dog can seriously hurt or even kill 

including poodles 

Can you give a link to someone killed by a poodle?  I looked on the web, I can find hundreds of people killed by pitbull type dogs, but none by poodles or Chihuahuas.

[Scot123]

21 hours ago, Orton Rd said:

I merely suggested that you might have owned a 'pittie' you don't but claim you would like to, despite claiming to have a vast knowledge of dogs, seems a bit of a contradiction there. By the way the word is 'ignorant' as in a lot of Pit Bull owners. It is not a grey area where they are banned, they either are or are not. The only grey area that exists is when idiot dog owners cross breed these beasts with other dogs to try and get around the law.

And yet again you twist words or just make things up. I did not say once I wanted to own a Pittbull, I said I would own a Pittbull but only a puppy @3 ~ 4 months old as they require a lot of socialising from a very early age. Calling people ignorant just because they own a type of dog is very arrogant. Maybe you should include labrador owners too as lab's are one of the top breeds for attacking people. Then there are all the toy dog breeds that are really bad for biting people. Are there owners arrogant too? Very few animals are born evil bbut many are made evil either by design or by owners who should not own any breed of dog. Have you ever owned a dog? If you have how well trained was that dog to a high working dog standard or do you just spout tabloid headlines? 

[black tabby]

On 1/29/2020 at 9:39 AM, gunderhill said:

 

Dogs here have more rights than humans

Especially inside  the rotten brain of do-gooders among expats in Thailand.

They always place dogs  above mankind.

And they  actively tip rubbish on other expats who are keen to defend themselves & others with non-lethal & non-toxic weapons like deterrent spray.

[overherebc]

It's well known that a heavy weight in the left ear of these dogs stops  them biting.

A colt 45 is the best instrument to insert the lead weight.

[black tabby]

When the force of the brutes strike, your best defense is your preparation in advance.

In order to prevent any future tragedy like that, carry a vinegar spray with you.

If you are ever aware of any possible dog attack risks around you.

It is extremely easy to start with.  You only need 4 things to start with:

1-Common spray with trigger & adjustable nozzle choke.

2-Compact screw top bottle that fits your spray.

3-Vinegar(full strength is recommended).

4-Sling type holder to house your spray.  With this, you can counter the dog attack attempt even while you are riding your bicycle.  Length of the strap to be adjusted to suit you.

 

For further details, please click on the address below:

 

[black tabby]

On 1/31/2020 at 10:05 AM, Enzian said:

When I go for my evening walk when staying in Hang Dong Chiang Mai I have to carry a 4', 1 1/2" diameter club made from heavy bamboo, and on some roads it still is not enough. If four of them come at me at once there is too great a chance I would lose.

Dear Enzian, 

 

If you are facing dog attack risks on daily basis, I can suggest you something that can drive away those vicious beasts with ease in a blink.

It is the vinegar spray in a sling type holder.  You can easily shoot 4shots in one second.

I have repelled so many mean dogs with this weapon.

It is quite cheap, easy to use, and pretty effective.

Please refer to my post earlier this year below.

Hope my information will help.

B.T.

 

[giddyup]

On 1/29/2020 at 11:45 AM, Beggar said:

I got bitten by a Soi dog in front of a 7-Eleven here in Pattaya and also several times threatened by up to 8 dogs also here in Pattaya. This is my statistics. 

Imagine if those soi dogs were pitbulls.

[josephbloggs]

On 1/29/2020 at 1:26 PM, roo860 said:

Found this story.

In a 1520 letter, Hernan Cortés wrote that the Aztecs raised and sold the little dogs as food.^[7] Colonial records refer to small, nearly hairless dogs at the beginning of the 19th century, one of which claims 16th-century Conquistadores found them plentiful in the region later known as Chihuahua.^[8] Small dogs such as Chihuahuas were also used as living heating pads during illness or injury. Some believe this practice is where the idea of pain being transferred to animals from humans originated, which gave way to rituals such as burning the deceased with live dogs, 

Expect a bunch of people to now gang up on you for daring to copy and paste some information.  Oh wait, that's only when Yinn does it.  Carry on! 

So many people can't handle a Thai lady with an opinion so they resort to petty attacks.  

[giddyup]

40 minutes ago, overherebc said:

It's well known that a heavy weight in the left ear of these dogs stops  them biting.

A colt 45 is the best instrument to insert the lead weight.

Works on dumb ar*es as well.

[giddyup]

On 1/30/2020 at 10:06 AM, car720 said:

Precisely, and that is why they are often refered to as Pig dogs.  It may be coincidence but it appears to me that every time I see one of these dogs I look at the owner and I see a marked resemblence.  The same blind penchant for violence.  Even the women.

It was bull terriers that were called pig dogs, not pitbulls.

[overherebc]

9 minutes ago, giddyup said:

It was bull terriers that were called pig dogs, not pitbulls.

Seems you're heading in the area of defending these dogs.

[giddyup]

Just now, overherebc said:

Seems you're heading in the area of defending these dogs.

That's a stretch, how do you figure that?

[Myran]

The "nanny dog" strikes again. They should be illegal to breed so that we can get rid of them in the coming decade. 

[black tabby]

On 1/29/2020 at 10:15 AM, BestB said:

Any dog can seriously hurt or even kill 

including poodles 

Yes, any dogs can and might attack people.

I have encountered with quite serious dog attack near-miss very recently.

It was Chihuahua belongs to the owner of the general store I frequent.

When I was going to their back-store toilet(on their approval)  it happened.

Off leashed Chihuhua dashed out from behind cupboard as if it was ambushing me.

The cupboard was only 6 feet away. 

And the dog was in full attack mode with its teeth bare menacingly.

I immediately reacted with my vinegar spray and pumped more than 10shots in the face of the attacking dog.  It ran away. And I could stay unharmed. 

Thank god for my Mean Dog Buster Spray  & sling holder that keeps the weapon readily accessible at my waist.  Without them, I must have got very seriously injured. 

I then told the owner and explained what had happened.

And they made an apology.

 

 

[androokery]

31 minutes ago, giddyup said:

Imagine if those soi dogs were pitbulls.

There are pitbull soi dogs, I’ve encountered them in Udon Thani. I chose another route. 

[overherebc]

20 minutes ago, giddyup said:

That's a stretch, how do you figure that?

Perhaps I mis-read the meaning behind your words. If I did then sorry.

[Artisi]

1 hour ago, overherebc said:

It's well known that a heavy weight in the left ear of these dogs stops  them biting.

A colt 45 is the best instrument to insert the lead weight.

22 short is sufficient and less noise offering the benefit of  cleaning up a few more at the same time. 

[sead]

That's just what Thailand needs. Free roaming pitbulls 

 

[giddyup]

4 minutes ago, Artisi said:

22 short is sufficient and less noise offering the benefit of  cleaning up a few more at the same time. 

Then you only have to explain to the police why you have a gun in your possession. Unless you have it licenced, something that's not easy to do in Thailand.

[trucking]

On 1/28/2020 at 6:12 PM, webfact said:

The male that attacked was subsequently taken away to be kept elsewhere. 

 

Which of course makes everything OK.

 

When these attacks happen the animal concerned should be put down , the owner to pay all medical expenses and compensation for time/ money lost by the victim plus a very hefty fine to be given to the victim and another to local authorities. Failure to pay earns the owner a jail term.

[giddyup]

Just now, trucking said:

 

Which of course makes everything OK.

 

When these attacks happen the animal concerned should be put down , the owner to pay all medical expenses and compensation for time/ money lost by the victim plus a very hefty fine to be given to the victim and another to local authorities. Failure to pay earns the owner a jail term.

People should be jailed for hit and runs, they're not, so what chance does your suggestion have? You could spend all day discussing things that Thailand should do.

[androokery]

4 minutes ago, trucking said:

 

Which of course makes everything OK.

 

When these attacks happen the animal concerned should be put down , the owner to pay all medical expenses and compensation for time/ money lost by the victim plus a very hefty fine to be given to the victim and another to local authorities. Failure to pay earns the owner a jail term.

I agree that the animal should be put down. But I’d also like to see a higher degree of accountability for the owner. I suggest we legally view this as the owner being responsible for the dog’s actions, as if they were carried out by the owner itself. If the dog tried to kill someone, the owner gets charged with attempted murder/manslaughter etc. 

[overherebc]

This being a 9 or 10 month old thread is it a Covid deflection type of thing?

[sead]

On 1/29/2020 at 3:54 AM, BestB said:

Do tell how exactly they breed them to be violent?

I thinks that if you don't know then don't ask because you are clearly trying to be smart with us. Don't understand then Google it

Edited August 29, 2020 by sead

[black tabby]

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38 minutes ago, androokery said:

I agree that the animal should be put down. But I’d also like to see a higher degree of accountability for the owner. I suggest we legally view this as the owner being responsible for the dog’s actions, as if they were carried out by the owner itself. If the dog tried to kill someone, the owner gets charged with attempted murder/manslaughter etc. 

In Thailand,  the owners of  the attacking dogs often try  to dodge their responsibility.

And the enforcement of laws in this field seems  quite loose.

At the same time, they often accept the immediate physical punishment to their dogs if they attack or attempted to attack others.

My neighbor has got a truly nasty bad-tempered dog.

And it tried to attack me twice in front of its owner without any provocation.

Witnessing that shocking scene to her,  the dog owner grabbed and started beating  it hard at least half-dozen times in front of me.

As she made an apology to me.

That was not enough to that stupid dog.

On its third attempt to attack on me, it was shot with vinegar spray in the face.

And then that idiot finally stopped its aggression toward myself.

 

 

Edited August 29, 2020 by black tabby

[Artisi]

58 minutes ago, giddyup said:

Then you only have to explain to the police why you have a gun in your possession. Unless you have it licenced, something that's not easy to do in Thailand.

Don't get too serious about it ????

[sungod]

1 hour ago, Myran said:

The "nanny dog" strikes again. They should be illegal to breed so that we can get rid of them in the coming decade. 

Wrong breed, Staffordshire Bull terriers are referred to as nanny dogs.

[321 BOOM]

On 1/29/2020 at 9:39 AM, gunderhill said:

Stupidity dictates that by doing so the neighbours would  have  beaten him as well as forever souring his  name.

Dogs here have more rights than humans, more's  the pity.

He should have shot the neighbour as well then

[Prairieboy]

On 1/29/2020 at 9:54 AM, BestB said:

 

 

On 1/29/2020 at 9:54 AM, BestB said:

Do tell how exactly they breed them to be violent?

They are not bred to be violent they are trained to be violent either purposely or due to their tratment by the 'owners'.  There is indeed a serious dog problem in Thailand.  Following is a letter I wrote to the village administrator 3 years ago - to date I have received no reply and no action has been taken.  I suppose the excuse is that they can't read English!

Dear Sirs:

As I am sure you are aware the number of dogs running loose and wild in the village is out of control.  Dogs are beginning to chase and snarl at motorcycles and will eventually cause a serious accident.  Small children playing on the streets are susceptible to attacks and even death by dog packs.  Do we want these preventable occurrences in our neighbourhood?

 As an example, in Canada there are an average of two deaths caused by dogs each year.  In the USA 9,500 people each year are hospitalized and about 30 deaths result from attacks by dogs. Domesticated dogs are responsible for over 100 fatalities worldwide each year.

I would like to suggest that the village issue dog licenses to generate income for the village and perhaps control the dog population. A village sponsored spaying/neutering program would raise awareness of controlling the pet population.   My neighbour on the right has 6 dogs (4 of which are about two months old) and the neighbour on the left has at least 3 dogs.

 Following is a suggested dog license fee schedule for yearly licenses:

	COST PER DOG/YEAR (BAHT)
No. of Dogs	Spayed/Neutered	Non-neutered
1	50฿	100฿
2	100฿ each	200฿ each
3	150฿ each	300฿ each
4 or more	200฿ each	400฿ each

All fees would be due and payable on January 1^st each year.  Any unlicensed dogs would be captured and euthanized!

I trust this letter will be given due attention and prompt immediate action before there is a serious incident!