Strict no-burn zone measures to be implemented in North

[webfact]

Strict no-burn zone measures to be implemented in North

By The Nation

 

 

The Department of Disaster Prevention and Mitigation is coordinating with administration officials in the North and related agencies to ensure law enforcement puts out forest fires and tackles the severe air pollution.

 

Department director-general Monton Sudprasert said that the data on the risk of forest fires in nine northern provinces -- Chiang Mai, Chiang Rai, Phrae, Phayao, Tak, Lamphun, Lampang, Nan, and Mae Hong Son -- on February 4 showed 789 spots due to the weather and the weak winds. This has led to accumulation of dust and haze in such areas.

 

       

 

Interior Minister General Anupong Paochinda has ordered the provincial governor to be the point man to solve the problem and called for strategic planning to provide information to all sectors and law enforcement, including the ban on burning in all areas.

 

Officials have requisitioned personnel and machinery such as water trucks and LUF-60 robotic fire extinguishing vehicles to support the operation of spraying water to increase moisture and reduce air pollution.

 

 

Of nine northern provinces, eight have been declared as strict burn-free areas.

 

1 Chiang Mai has forbidden burning from January 10 to April 30.

 

2 Phrae has announced a strict ban on burning from February 1 to April 30.

 

3 Nan province has banned burning from February 15 to April 15.

 

4. Phayao, Tak, Lamphun, and Lampang provinces have been declared absolute no-burning areas from March 1 to April 30.

 

5 Mae Hong Son is strictly forbidding fires from March 15 to April 30.

 

Chiang Rai is monitoring the trend of disaster situations to issue guidelines on no-burn zones later.

 

Some provinces have already arrested and prosecuted violators of the ban on burning.

 

People have been requested to refrain from burning in all forms and strictly comply with the announcements on no-burn zones to control the crisis of forest fires, smog and small-dust pollution in the area.

 

Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30381686

 

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[Hank Gunn]

11 minutes ago, webfact said:

...to ensure law enforcement puts out forest fires and tackles the severe air pollution.

 

Hmmm. I think I've heard that one a few dozen times already.

 

Wake me up, not when someone has been "arrested" and been trotted out to the press to "prove" authorities are doing something, but when someone is actually convicted, sentenced and pays their fine and/or does the required jail time.

[bluesofa]

14 minutes ago, webfact said:

The Department of Disaster Prevention and Mitigation is coordinating with administration officials in the North and related agencies to ensure law enforcement puts out forest fires and tackles the severe air pollution.

'law enforcement puts out forest fires'. I thought that was the job of the fire brigade.

Law enforecement prevents forest fires being started maybe.

[BobbyL]

Well lets hope it is fully enforced. 

[RotBenz8888]

24 minutes ago, webfact said:

Strict no-burn zone

A no-bribe zone is what they need to implement first, or nothing will ever happen.

[Samuel Smith]

"4. Phayao, Tak, Lamphun, and Lampang provinces have been declared absolute no-burning areas from March 1 to April 30."

 

Crazy.  should be same as Chiang Mai.  Guess what, winds from south bring smoke from Lampang, Tak & Lamphun to Chiang mai!   Lamphun is in the same freaking valley!

[Saint Nick]

Not gonna happen!

[fforest1]

liar liar your pants on fire....

[Assurancetourix]

36 minutes ago, Hank Gunn said:

Hmmm. I think I've heard that one a few dozen times already.

 

Maybe even a hundred times about a bunch of crackdowns;
--road accidents
- sex education at school
- forest fires of course
- and those in sugar cane plantations,
I forget a lot ...

yet another "enforcement" that will quickly fall into oblivion given the reluctance of Thai cops to do the job for which the government pays them

[CGW]

8 minutes ago, Assurancetourix said:

that will quickly fall into oblivion given the reluctance of Thai cops to do the job for which the government pays them

Therein lies the problem as I understand it, you refer to the "Government" they are military, in the social hierarchy in Thailand they both have the same standing, which is why they they will not "interfere" in each others "business" some years since I read about this, but this is what I remember!

It's complex and also has very clear cut lines!

[Assurancetourix]

1 minute ago, CGW said:

they are military, in the social hierarchy in Thailand they both have the same standing,

 

Yes and no ;
the high ranks of the two weapons are friends or at least avoid interference.
but the junior officers and the base police don't really like the army (that's the least I can write)
There is only to see, moreover, the considerable number of mules that these police officers arrest each day and night .. without having the possibility of going up higher, towards the sponsors who are generally all known because being part of HiSo of the army.
but they are untouchable - for the moment -
It can't go on forever.

As you write, it is very complicated to know who is pulling the right strings even if with a little reading on the internet we can get a fairly precise idea of the thing.

[Dumbastheycome]

 

Too little too late. It is one thing to stop forest fires but where in the wording as presented here is any meaningful declaration to enforce crop burn offs? In 1 weeks time is long enough for the majority of  cane fields to burned for the year!

"Requested to refrain " ?

 

[RotMahKid]

Lampang has 2 big red fire extinguish helicopters flying around since this week.

[whiteman]

Dreams are free smells like BS   TO ME

 

[CGW]

1 hour ago, Assurancetourix said:

As you write, it is very complicated to know who is pulling the right strings even if with a little reading on the internet we can get a fairly precise idea of the thing.

Not difficult to know who is pulling the strings at this time, what can, will & maybe might happen in the future - no idea - all I was saying was the present "government" will never have a competent Police force under its power! Historically & I go back a fair few years Military & Police do not step on each others toes! thats the way it is set up and has been for well over a hundred years. 

[canuckamuck]

Interesting to see that Chiang Rai is taking a wait and see approach. The last three years Chiang Rai has been the best behaved during the bans, having the least amount of illegal fires.

Maybe they are going to trust the Rai to use their own judgement.

[connda]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

Strict no-burn zone measures to be implemented in North

Now all they need to do is inform the locals who are setting fires to the forests to make way for the yearly mushroom collection.  There is no enforcement, just hand-wringing and excuses. 

[Number 6]

By the time the burning drops off it won't be because of effective enforcement but rather nothing left to burn (for the year).

 

Problem solved!

[30la]

Continue with these senseless BS, it doesn't help anyone to prohibit only in certain periods, it must be absolutely prohibited!
On the one hand, the PM asks the people to save water and to fight PM 2.5 unnecessarily wastes a lot of precious water!

[Toany]

But you can still sell burnt sugar cane

[thequietman]

19 hours ago, webfact said:

People have been requested to refrain from burning in all forms

 

[Burma Bill]

Why not introduce new strict "no burning sugar cane" zones in Issan Provinces!!

[cmsally]

Lots of burning going on around Chiang Dao yesterday. Could see the plumes of smoke and smell it. What are they doing about it ??

Also they need to explain why the different areas have different dats for burning ban. Unless govt. have to explain the directives they spout out there will be no improvement.

[Elkski]

So we need to get off our butts somchi and burn our cane before March  1

[Assurancetourix]

22 minutes ago, cmsally said:

Also they need to explain why the different areas have different dats for burning ban. Unless govt. have to explain the directives they spout out there will be no improvement.

 

In fact, each governor is an "absolute" king in his province and completely disregards national directives.

Explain to me also why the dates of the school holidays are each year on different dates with in addition holidays for the second degree when the primary is still in school.
How can you plan a vacation with your children when you have one in elementary school and two others in secondary, or even at the University where the rector also goes, find dates that suit him without him occupy national directives ...

[MaxLee]

20 hours ago, webfact said:

Strict no-burn zone measures to be implemented in North

To be or not to be..... this is always the question 

[Krataiboy]

Good news for the North, but how about the rest of the country? The PM 2.5 count for the Gulf coastal resort where I live is well above the WHO recommended limit

 

As usual, this bad news is accompanied by the words, "Fires have been reported near this place".

And as usual, the local health and safety officals paid to protect public health can't be bothered to get off their backsides and bring the culprits to book.

[thequietman]

1 hour ago, Burma Bill said:

Why not introduce new strict "no burning sugar cane" zones in Issan Provinces!!

Really?!  That's where the monaaay comes from, for the brown envelopes. You can't cut off a revenue stream like that! ????

[thequietman]

39 minutes ago, Assurancetourix said:

Explain to me also why the dates of the school holidays are each year on different dates with in addition holidays for the second degree when the primary is still in school.

The secondary schools need to be in line with the acceptance dates for the Uni. Before, they weren't and students had to wait 9 months before they could join.

The Uni's have come in line with the other Asian uni's and sometimes the European ones, so that Thai students can join at the appropriate dates.

 

Primary isn't affected by all of this ..... yet. ???? 

[CGW]

1 hour ago, Burma Bill said:

Why not introduce new strict "no burning sugar cane" zones in Issan Provinces!!

just consider the long term advantage, you will have plenty of "Green" bio-fuel for your vehicle once the Ethanol has gone through due process!