Jonathan Fairfield Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Death toll hits 21 from Thai shooting after raid into mall By Panu Wongcha-um NAKHON RATCHASIMA, Thailand (Reuters) - A member of the Thai security forces was killed early on Sunday in a raid into a shopping mall to try to stop a soldier on a shooting rampage, bringing the total death toll to 21, the health minister said. The killings began at around 3 p.m. (0800 GMT) on Saturday when the soldier opened fire in a house before moving to an army camp and then to the mall in Nakhon Ratchasima in northeastern Thailand, posting messages on Facebook as he went. Early on Sunday, gunfire broke out at the mall as security forces tried to dislodge the soldier, identified by police as 32-year-old Jakrapanth Thomma. Public Health Minister Anutin Charnvirakul told reporters at the scene that one member of the security forces was killed and two wounded in the raid. As he spoke, a series of explosions and further shooting echoed from the Terminal 21 mall. Police closed off streets around the mall and kept journalists behind a security cordon. After the raid, Reuters video images showed one casualty being wheeled out to an ambulance. Another staggered from the building barechested as he was helped onto a stretcher. At least 31 other people have been wounded. Thai media said the suspected shooter had worked at an army base close to Nakhon Ratchasima, which is about 250 km (155 miles) from the capital Bangkok. Before the attack, Jakrapanth had posted on his Facebook account that he was out for vengeance -- but he did not say for what. 'IT APPEARS HE WENT MAD' "We don't know why he did this. It appears he went mad," Defence Ministry spokesman Kongcheep Tantrawanit told Reuters. It was unclear how many shoppers and workers remained inside the shopping mall after soldiers and police had earlier escorted hundreds of trapped people to safety, Kongcheep said. "It was frightening because I could hear the occasional gunshot ... we waited a long time for the police to come and help us, many hours." said Suvanarat Jirattanasakul, 27, her voice trembling after she emerged. The mall was busy with shoppers on a long weekend for the Buddhist Makha Bucha holiday. CCTV footage from inside the mall posted on social media showed the gunman dressed in black and wearing a mask, his gun slung over his shoulder with no sign of other people around. Facebook <FB.O> said it had removed the suspect's account. "There is no place on Facebook for people who commit this kind of atrocity, nor do we allow people to praise or support this attack," a Facebook representative said in a statement. Major shootings are rare in the Southeast Asian country other than in the far south, where a decades-old insurgency persists. Nakhon Ratchasima is one of the biggest cities in northeastern Thailand, an island of relative prosperity in a rice growing area that is one of the poorest parts of the country of 69 million people. (Additional reporting by Athit Perawongmetha and Jiraporn Kuhakan in Nakhon Ratchasima, Patpicha Tanakasempipat, Panarat Thepgumpanat and Juarawee Kittisilpa in Bangkok; Writing by Kay Johnson and Matthew Tostevin; Editing by Daniel Wallis) -- © Copyright Reuters 2020-02-09 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asiaquakedb-tester Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 There appears to be only 3 ways that this situation ends (IMHO): 1- shooter surrenders; 2- shooter is taken out by law enforcement; 3- shooter takes himself out. There can be no escape.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metempsychotic Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 7 hours ago, KhaoYai said: Come on, OK reports are varied and conflicting at the moment but from what I can make out, this was an unplanned attack. He shot dead a Colonel and the Colonel's mother in law in some sort of dispute and then went to the amoury shooting dead staff there. I have never visited an amoury in the west where access to weapons/ammunition can be gained simply by shooting the staff. Soldiers planning an attack in a corrupt country may well be able to gain access to weapons/ammunition but on the spur of the moment? It should not be possible. The fact that he was able to gain access to the armoury, seemingly quite easily, smacks of slackness. If the normal, universal military procedures were followed, it would not have been possible for him to get his hands on anything - even with a gun. Heads should roll but they won't. Why do you keep talking sbout what should not be possible? This is happenining, so it MUST This is not the west. You have no idea who this man is or what his access to weapons was. Get over it. As for heads rolling, that too has already happened. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asiaquakedb-tester Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 12 minutes ago, asiaquakedb-tester said: Had a look at Kiwi Farms - apart from 1 video (angry shopper trying to lure out the shooter in the mall last night, including insults thrown back and forth), Thai TV channels have aired the rest (most with privacy filters over the deceased) and more. @URMySunshine Thai TV just aired the video of folks trying to lure the shooter out with sound over the trade of insults. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, asiaquakedb-tester said: There can be no escape.. Is he channeling Phra Dhammachayo from Wat Dhammakaya? They still didn't get him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cardinalblue Posted February 9, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 9, 2020 The equivalent of eight hours on Thai roads which generates no news due to the normalcy of this behavior.... 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vigilante Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 6 minutes ago, asiaquakedb-tester said: There appears to be only 3 ways that this situation ends (IMHO): 1- shooter surrenders; 2- shooter is taken out by law enforcement; 3- shooter takes himself out. There can be no escape.. He is not going to walk out alive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipButty Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 Just now, Vigilante said: He is not going to walk out alive Hope he's not got any grenades on him he could take a few more out before he goes down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post neeray Posted February 9, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 9, 2020 1 minute ago, cardinalblue said: The equivalent of eight hours on Thai roads which generates no news due to the normalcy of this behavior.... Oh don't start that sh*t about comparing to Thai roads. One has nothing to do with the other. This is an extraordinary situation. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Dcheech said: Killed 20 wounded 31, wow and still going on as I make my morning coffee. Dam, Coronavirus virus out there, , enraged Thai politician hawking masks and now a mass shooter/killer. My hot season vacation can't come too soon. You forgot the pollution/bad air. Can't see how one tired army guy can fight off the whole of the Korat armed forces. Doesn't seem like they're trying all that hard. Edited February 9, 2020 by BritManToo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somtamnication Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 He will get exhausted and doze off. Some of the 16 should be able to jump him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFlungFalang Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Somtamnication said: He will get exhausted and doze off. Some of the 16 should be able to jump him. Twice in my life I worked for 36 hours straight not particularly hard although the head starts buzzing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slosheroni Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, BritManToo said: You forgot the pollution/bad air. Can't see how one tired army guy can fight off the whole of the Korat armed forces. Doesn't seem like they're trying all that hard. Just giving their lives but no, not trying that hard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterw42 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, ChipButty said: Hope he's not got any grenades on him he could take a few more out before he goes down Thats the scenario they are saying on some news reports, he has grenades etc and surrounded by hostages, thats why they cant rush him, sniper shot etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asiaquakedb-tester Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 The shooter's movements traced to the lower ground floor of the mall 18 minutes ago. (Source: https://twitter.com/Rajprasong_News/status/1226295021298536449) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anto Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 6 minutes ago, Somtamnication said: He will get exhausted and doze off. Some of the 16 should be able to jump him. The excitement will keep him awake ,and he maybe on some drug stimulant also . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterw42 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 8 minutes ago, BritManToo said: You forgot the pollution/bad air. Can't see how one tired army guy can fight off the whole of the Korat armed forces. Doesn't seem like they're trying all that hard. He has hostages, what would you have them do ?? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipButty Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Peterw42 said: He has hostages, what would you have them do ?? Especially if they think he has explosives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterw42 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, asiaquakedb-tester said: The shooter's movements traced to the lower ground floor of the mall 18 minutes ago. (Source: https://twitter.com/Rajprasong_News/status/1226295021298536449) Thairath reports he has set-up inside the foodland supermarket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipButty Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, asiaquakedb-tester said: The shooter's movements traced to the lower ground floor of the mall 18 minutes ago. (Source: https://twitter.com/Rajprasong_News/status/1226295021298536449) I see on Thai news he's blown up some gas tanks true or not not sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kraig62 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 30 minutes ago, URMySunshine said: If the RTA had serious indiscipline in the ranks then bye bye old Thailand. At the moment this is hopefully just a one off but coming so soon after the gold shop a disturbing pattern of madness that will no doubt be highly amplified by the internet maybe occurring. And always the issue of copycat attacks. Very troubling times ahead for LOS I’m afraid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipButty Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Peterw42 said: Thairath reports he has set-up inside the foodland supermarket. Tactical move on his part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kraig62 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, Peterw42 said: Thairath reports he has set-up inside the foodland supermarket. Makes sense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Fairfield Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 UPDATE 07.30 - 15 hours since first shooting operation at Terminal 21 Korat Mall remains ongoing - Suspect still at large inside mall - Thai special forces also inside mall - at least 21 killed, 30 injured - Special forces soldier understood to be amongst those killed - Suspect is 32 yrs old, army sergeant - Suspect earlier live streamed killing rampage on Facebook e Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerryd Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 10 minutes ago, ChipButty said: I see on Thai news he's blown up some gas tanks true or not not sure He shot some propane tanks after arriving at Terminal 21 early on in this event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post URMySunshine Posted February 9, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 9, 2020 23 minutes ago, BritManToo said: You forgot the pollution/bad air. Can't see how one tired army guy can fight off the whole of the Korat armed forces. Doesn't seem like they're trying all that hard. The Thai army is not for fighting but more a superannuated officers club for Thailand Inc. Which is both good and bad - good in that they don't bother with destructive foreign adventures and bad because when push comes to shove they are as useful as a chocolate teapot. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yadon Toploy Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 Just woke up to see this situation is still continuing. Hope the hostages get out safe but this guy is trained and appears to have a plan so it is not going to be easy. A forced entry by an ATU will be very risky. I believe two security forces have already been shot, and there's a video of childish insults being traded. Not the way they should have been dealing with him trying to provoke his anger as he has hostages and could easily bump one off because of it. The strategy now has to be wait it out and attempt to negotiate. He's tired, he will start making mistakes. The mall is huge, he can move about without surveillance too, which means he's more difficult to pin down and much more dangerous for hostage during an entry. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewster67 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 (edited) 28 minutes ago, anto said: The excitement will keep him awake ,and he maybe on some drug stimulant also . The excitement and the adrenaline will give him boosts, but they come with crashes just like a sugar rush is followed by a sugar crash. The same is with drugs and alcohol, the body is balanced and the normal line is say a neutral line, you take a stimulant or your body feeds you adrenaline, and you go up to say +20, when the body comes back down, it doesn't just come back to neutral, it goes to -20 and then creeps back up to normal... Hence, a drug comedown or a hangover.... It's the exact same with adrenaline... Basically, this guy has probably undergone the most exhaustive day of his entire life and i am sure he is now absolutely knackered... The biggest worry is that the first thing to go will be his cognitive function. His ability to make clear decisions. Edited February 9, 2020 by Brewster67 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 Some more troll posts and the replies have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damrongsak Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 1 hour ago, URMySunshine said: Don't want to link to it here but a site called "Kiwi Farms" has nearly all the uncensored videos. Just wow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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