UK seeks to attract high-skilled workers with points-based immigration system

[gearbox]

6 hours ago, DoctorG said:

Australia has had a similar points system for years. Works well.

So...did we become more competitive in any area? To me it looks like more and more "houses and holes"

[Chomper Higgot]

13 minutes ago, gearbox said:

So...did we become more competitive in any area? To me it looks like more and more "houses and holes"

The Australian economy is essentially propped up by little more than the sale of raw materials, minerals and agricultural produce.

 

 

[DrTuner]

I'm a fan of these points systems. Probably because when I've checked I pass all of them with a fat margin. They make sense, just get the best in and others stay where they are until they've developed themselves to pass the muster. No need to get any fillers in just to increase the body count.

[TheDark]

I guess backwards looking England will still be able to lure in talents, quite like Saudi Arabia does. The salaries should be 5 figures per month to do so. 

 

Good salary and ability not to have to live along with the poor Englishmen, would be a good for the England's recruitment process. 

Edited February 19, 2020 by TheDark

[Sujo]

2 minutes ago, DrTuner said:

I'm a fan of these points systems. Probably because when I've checked I pass all of them with a fat margin. They make sense, just get the best in and others stay where they are until they've developed themselves to pass the muster. No need to get any fillers in just to increase the body count.

Well as long as you are ok.

 

I also pass the tests but its stupid to have them as it pushes costs up.

Also housing industry hates them. 

 

I dont vote for my own good, i vote for what is best for my country. 

[Sujo]

32 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The Australian economy is essentially propped up by little more than the sale of raw materials, minerals and agricultural produce.

 

 

If china stops taking coal australia dies.

[Rookiescot]

How many points does having money get you?

[OffshoreMig]

They should think twice and carefully before they adopt the Australian Skilled Migration Points System. There are many flaws in the Australian system that should be avoided.

[Yinn]

14 hours ago, webfact said:

Concern over the impact of high levels of immigration from the European Union was one of the key drivers behind Britain's 2016 vote to leave the bloc

What does @DannyCarlton think?

 

IMO their country, up to them. 

 

They give Thai people retirement visa? 50+ year old and 20,000 UK dollar?

[OffshoreMig]

1 hour ago, gearbox said:

So...did we become more competitive in any area? To me it looks like more and more "houses and holes"

Sorry you are mistaken.  Many flaws and limitations in the way the Australian System works.  Best to avoid it.  Concept looks good but the execution and delivery not so good.

[OffshoreMig]

7 hours ago, DoctorG said:

Australia has had a similar points system for years. Works well.

Sorry you are mistaken.  Many flaws and limitations in the way the Australian System works.  Best to avoid it.  Concept looks good but the execution and delivery not so good.

 

[RubbaJohnny]

"UK seeks to attract high-skilled workers with points-based immigration system" 

Meanwhile LOS seeks to attract high laid shirkers with pints-based immigration system 

[kingdong]

6 hours ago, candide said:

Benefits policy has never been decided by the EU.

True but freedom of movement deciding who could come to the uk via the eu did.

Edited February 19, 2020 by kingdong

[sanemax]

14 minutes ago, Yinn said:

What does @DannyCarlton think?

 

IMO their country, up to them. 

 

They give Thai people retirement visa? 50+ year old and 20,000 UK dollar?

UK Pound .

We dont have $'s

[kingdong]

20 minutes ago, OffshoreMig said:

They should think twice and carefully before they adopt the Australian Skilled Migration Points System. There are many flaws in the Australian system that should be avoided.

For instance?

[sanemax]

23 minutes ago, Yinn said:

What does @DannyCarlton think?

 

 

Danny Carlton is happily  married 

[candide]

25 minutes ago, kingdong said:

True but freedom of movement deciding who could come to the uk via the eu did.

Thank you for your irrelevant comment. The post I replied to was about "indigenous sloth".

[Yinn]

36 minutes ago, sanemax said:

UK Pound .

We dont have $'s

How much pound for Thai to get retirement visa in UK? Can, or not?

[puipuitom]

11 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

And when the school holidays end and the children have to go back to their books?

Then the strawberries have to be flown in from Australia or so… as nobody to pick them in Kent etc.

[Yinn]

30 minutes ago, sanemax said:

Danny Carlton is happily  married 

Yes, beautiful Nongkai woman. He is very lucky. They go karaoke together.

 

But I ask him about the quote, not about his wife.....

15 hours ago, webfact said:

Concern over the impact of high levels of immigration from the European Union was one of the key drivers behind Britain's 2016 vote to leave the bloc

What you think? Happy Brexit stop the high levels of immigration?

[puipuitom]

8 hours ago, graemeaylward said:

What about Thai wives of retired UK citizens, many of such wives having no skills?  It was hard enough obtaining a visitor visa for my wife, so I guess she will never be allowed to reside in UK. ????

 

Exactly, as many British retirees living in Thailand voted for.

[puipuitom]

6 hours ago, Scouse123 said:

 

The UK conservative government is being active in forcing the lazy and workshy to get employment through various means such as proving they have actively sought work, not left jobs for petty reasons, attended interviews etc. and taking action against those who don't by censoring their benefits and suspending their benefits.

 

At least they are doing something about it and I support them. Regarding home grown labour not really wanting minimum wages jobs, the answer is easy. Get to college or an apprenticeship and acquire a skill where you don't have to work for minimum wage.

 

It has to be addressed and the Labour party addresses nothing. As Thatcher once said, ' The problem with socialism is you eventually run out of other peoples money '

 

People who have worked all their lives resent the workshy sponging a life on benefits whilst moonlighting doing various work for cash only and paying no taxes, whilst the rest of us see the age for retirement raised to 67, to pay for this lot.

Many non-socialist governments tried so, none succeeded.

[JustAnotherHun]

As the German media complex already starts to hysterical condemn Johnson's immigration plans they cannot be bad for his country.

[losworld]

Just now, JustAnotherHun said:

As the German media complex already starts to hysterical condemn Johnson's immigration plans they cannot be bad for his country.

Germany has been an occupied country for many years now.  It does not act in the interests of its citizens.

[puipuitom]

1 hour ago, Rookiescot said:

How many points does having money get you?

Looking to many Russians living in London: more points as all the others together.

Edited February 19, 2020 by puipuitom

[ThomasThBKK]

24 minutes ago, Yinn said:

How much pound for Thai to get retirement visa in UK? Can, or not?

 

They removed their retirment visa, only like investment visa stuff available now afaik (millions $$).

 

You can retire in most eu countries tho, all it needs is enough money to live and healthcare. not much different to here.

[observer90210]

Good move from the UK.

 

Many highly specialised IT, engineering institutions, medical colleges etc. etc.  in the EU are rightfully letting non EU students come to study, who are brillant,  and when they get their degrees or PhD, they are asked to leave !!!  

 

Stupidity from the EU after having trained some of top the brains of the globe, are loosing valuable professionnals who exceed in their specialisations. Most end up happily in the firms of Sillicon Valley or in top class specialised institutions in Switzerland. 

Edited February 19, 2020 by observer90210

[kensawadee]

As an American, I can only hope that the US will see this and use it to screen migrators (immigrants), but leave the illegal Latins alone UNLESS they catch them for criminal offences --- THEN Deport them....

Where I live in California many friends and neighbors are hard working illegals, it is only 'a few of their own' that spoil it.... Very few, percentage wise....

However I dislike what I see of muslim immigrants coming into so many countries and trying to convert those 'host' countries to muslim rule (law).   I DON'T WANT THEM...... (period)

(muslim intentionally not capitalized)

[impulse]

12 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

A look at which sectors of the economy are short of worker’s is enough to reveal this ‘bureaucracy creating idea’ will fail:

 

Construction facing worker shortages since 2014, hotels catering, health and welfare, and others all short of workers.

 

Oh and Wetherspoon facing a profit warning ( sad that).

 

https://www.ft.com/content/36baacce-ddd0-11e8-9f04-38d397e6661c

 

 

Whenever I see "shortage of workers", I always read "<deleted> wages".  Or, sometimes... "cyclical employment where employees are tired of being laid off repeatedly".

 

Edited February 19, 2020 by impulse

[HauptmannUK]

So the UK wants 'highly skilled' immigrants like engineers and IT specialists who can speak English?

GOOD NEWS - India and Pakistan produce these graduates in vast numbers (1.5 million engineering graduates a year in India). Even better news - most cannot find employment in their own countries (80% of engineers unemployed in India) and are immediately available to take up positions in the UK....

 

https://www.indiatoday.in/education-today/featurephilia/story/80-engineers-are-unemployed-how-can-we-prepare-engineers-for-the-jobs-of-tomorrow-1468240-2019-03-01