British football coach, 32, fights for life in Thai hospital against severe lung infection

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

1 hour ago, BuyBitcoin said:

Also, if the guys been working here for 12 years he has govt insurance.

 

That's assuming he had a legit job with a work permit and an employer who paid into the govt health insurance plan....

 

It's also possible their financial figure is including the costs of having the various family members staying here with him for who knows how long... But obviously, the article is very short in any details on such things.

[jacko45k]

3 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

£2,000 A DAY is a great deal???

Yes, meaning a lot, not a bargain. 

Intensive care is a lot per day, and I suspect a daily extra charge for specialist equipment. 

[SkyFax]

1 hour ago, smedly said:

4 hours ago, sweatalot said:

Surprised they did not mention that it is not CoVid 19

not surprised at all, would not be surprised if they didn't even test for it...….what they don't know they don't have to lie about

From the OP: "The former Coulby Newham Secondary School student's family are at his bedside including sister Jodie, two brothers Lee and Shaun, as well as his mum and dad."

 

So if he's got the CoVid-19, his whole family is likely going to get it as well.

[BuyBitcoin]

10 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

While £2,000 sounds a great deal, 2000 baht would cover nothing.

Odd though. If he's been working here for 12 years on a work permit then he should have SSI and it would be free. 

[jacko45k]

2 minutes ago, BuyBitcoin said:

Odd though. If he's been working here for 12 years on a work permit then he should have SSI and it would be free. 

I sincerely hope you are correct, OP did not specifically say they were paying that. 

[billaaa777]

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Thai hospitals are in no way up to international standards when it comes to hygiene. 

 

Bangkok Pattaya Hospital is clearly a world class hospital.

[SkyFax]

From the GoFundMe page linked in the OP Teeside newspaper article:

 

 

£14,259 raised of £150,000 goal

 

[metisdead]

A post containing some insensitive comments has been removed as the family does not need to read comments such as that. 

[phantomfiddler]

Seriously hoping that the man recovers, but for anything more than a serious cold I head straight for a certain hospital very close to the intersection of Patpong 1 and Silom in Bangkok itself, one of the city,s oldest and amazingly a non-profit organization ????

[Traubert]

1 hour ago, lemonjelly said:

I read that suspected cov19 cases are only being tested for infection in certain areas of Thailand, those that have had a lot of Chinese tourists, can anyone verify? 

No. Where did you read it? Check their source.

[Traubert]

54 minutes ago, BuyBitcoin said:

Brits should forward this to the UK press, force the issue.

It came from the UK press. The Gazette is a Middlesborough paper. It says Teeside in the headline.

[Scot123]

3 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Amazing that the UK media could write an article like that and not even address the possibility that it was CV... A young guy, with serious pneumonia who had recent international air travel.... That oughta at least be sending up a warning flare.... but here.... perhaps not..

 

But, yet another hospitalized Brit in serious condition with the family seeking financial aid -- and no mention of local/international health insurance coverage.

 

 

Sorry but where is it written the family are begging for money? 

[hotchilli]

3 hours ago, bedbugy said:

"His family are trying everything possible to keep him alive. It's costing £2,000 a day to keep him in there

 

did they mean baht

I think the figure looks obvious enough, and sounds plausible... 

[WalkingOrders]

I pray he gets well soon. 

[SkyFax]

15 minutes ago, Scot123 said:

Sorry but where is it written the family are begging for money? 

On their GoFundMe page.

[Phuket Stan]

1 hour ago, jacko45k said:

While £2,000 sounds a great deal, 2000 baht would cover nothing.

Being in Intensive Care and then put into Induced Coma would certainly cost 2 thousand pound a day if it is an international hospital

They are not cheap and not frightened to charge.....like a herd of raging buffalos at times

[gamini]

6 hours ago, Isaanbiker said:

Terrible news! 

 

I've lost a good friend who had a heart problem and was then in a vast room of Sappasit hospital Ubon R. with around 20 other patients who had almost all contagious diseases, including lung infections.

 

  He died on the same day after he received urgently needed blood that we found from donors through TV.

 

  It turned out that he had four different types of lung infections, and even one of the doctors told me that I shouldn't come to visit, it would be too dangerous.

 

The irony was that we found a single room for him, but he had to be in intensive care after the second lung infection.

 

We had no other choice. I wish I'd have known that before. 

 

  "My country doesn't have enough money to separate patients with contagious diseases" were the doctor's words.  

 

I've even seen a live operation in the middle of the night, right in the middle of the room, done by an Indian doctor who seemed to help out. 

 

I hope that he'll make it.

 

Thai hospitals are in no way up to international standards when it comes to hygiene. 

I caught severe pneumomia as in inpatient at Rama hospital in Bangkok in spite of a pneumonua vaccine. Now six months later I am still suffering with pleural effussion and other lingering side effects.

I tried to save money by going to a govetrnment hospital but never again.It was not hygene standards, but massive overcrowding and understaffing. 

[Krataiboy]

1 hour ago, morrobay said:

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/apr/13/air-pollution-spikes-can-heighten-risk-chest-infections-research-utah

 

The air around here is out to get you

Interesting, but a little perturbing. The Guardian quotes a UK "expert" as saying there has been "little research" into whether there is  link between air pollution and respiratory infections. 

 

Yet on its website, the World Health Organisation says air pollution kills an estimated seven million people worldwide every year, and nine out of ten of us breathe air containing high levels of pollutants.

 

Which begs a couple of questions: 1 On what research is the WHO estimate based? 2 Are common lung diseases caused by endemic worldwide pollution (e.g. pneumonia)  being diagnosed as corona infections?

 

 

 

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

30 minutes ago, Scot123 said:

Sorry but where is it written the family are begging for money? 

 

Gotta read the whole original article -- not just the TVF quoted part:

 

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Richard has set up a fundraising page to help Mark and his family.

In under 24 hours, over £10,000 has been raised towards Mark's healthcare.

Donations can be made HERE.

 

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

2 minutes ago, Krataiboy said:

Which begs a couple of questions: 1 On what research is the WHO estimate based? 2 Are common lung diseases caused by endemic worldwide pollution (e.g. pneumonia)  being diagnosed as corona infections?

 

 

The kinds of illnesses that PM2.5 pollution typically leads to include heart attacks, strokes, COPD, etc etc...  Certainly pneumonia is possible and perhaps at greater risk with people who have impaired/damaged respiratory systems. But pneumonia is not typically one of the main illnesses typically associated with PM2.5 pollution exposure.

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

16 minutes ago, gamini said:

I caught severe pneumomia as in inpatient at Rama hospital in Bangkok  

 

Are you talking about Ramathibodi, or one of the others?

[Cheesekraft]

hell of a virus... I will try to find some masks . Good luck in the recovery sir.

[thaiflyer1]

Had a friend who collapsed 2 weeks ago in Pattaya he was taken to Chonburi hospital, they put him on life support and ended up turning it off......it was his funeral last Monday......52 yrs old.......seemed healthy.......autopsy result died of TB

 

Starting to wonder if that really was the cause of death..........and now this guy.........worrying

[Krataiboy]

23 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

The kinds of illnesses that PM2.5 pollution typically leads to include heart attacks, strokes, COPD, etc etc...  Certainly pneumonia is possible and perhaps at greater risk with people who have impaired/damaged respiratory systems. But pneumonia is not typically one of the main illnesses typically associated with PM2.5 pollution exposure.

 

Pneumonia 'linked' to pollution

High levels of pollution may have contributed to the deaths of thousands of people in England from pneumonia in recent years, a study suggests. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7347065.stm

[dabhand]

1 hour ago, Scot123 said:

Sorry but where is it written the family are begging for money? 

The target is £150,000 with close to £15k received to date. 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

41 minutes ago, thaiflyer1 said:

Had a friend who collapsed 2 weeks ago in Pattaya he was taken to Chonburi hospital, they put him on life support and ended up turning it off......it was his funeral last Monday......52 yrs old.......seemed healthy.......autopsy result died of TB

 

 

There is ACTIVE TB disease where people generally are showing the typical symptoms, and then there is LATENT TB where the person has the TB in their body, but it's not active and not communicable at that stage.

 

I'm looking to try to find a decent answer, but I'm not finding anything that tells me a person with latent TB can die because of latent TB. Active TB on the other hand, certainly yes.

 

 

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The general symptoms of TB disease include

• Unexplained weight loss
• Loss of appetite
• Night sweats
• Fever
• Fatigue
• Chills

The symptoms of TB of the lungs include

• Coughing for 3 weeks or longer
• Hemoptysis (coughing up blood)
• Chest pain

 

 

https://www.cdc.gov/tb/publications/factsheets/general/ltbiandactivetb.htm

 

[Airalee]

Chiang Mai Ram Hospital room rates including services.  Cannot see how a hospital in Pattaya can be so much more expensive.

 

฿6000 + doctors fees vs ฿80,000

 

Questionable reporting.

 
 

 

[BuyBitcoin]

1 hour ago, thaiflyer1 said:

Had a friend who collapsed 2 weeks ago in Pattaya he was taken to Chonburi hospital, they put him on life support and ended up turning it off......it was his funeral last Monday......52 yrs old.......seemed healthy.......autopsy result died of TB

 

Starting to wonder if that really was the cause of death..........and now this guy.........worrying

Does one just collapse and die from TB?  I thought it was a long drawn out ordeal. Thats what the majority of isolation rooms in thai hospitals deal with.

[Soikhaonoiken]

Make you wonder if they have even checked for CoVid 19,  one of the main symptoms of the virus is lung infection and difficulty in breathing, or are the just putting it down pneumonia /chest infection to avoid admission of another case of the CoVid 19 virus, very worrying how the Government could be holding back important information... 

[Encore]

I managed to get to a hospital at Prasat within a few days of having breathing difficulty and feeling really unwell.  Doctors confirmed that my lungs were filling up with a liquid, gaseous or fibrous substance but could not diagnose the infection.  I was in unimaginable pain and put on IV morphine for 1 week as well as a cocktail of IV antibiotics.  I was then transferred to a Hua Hin hospital where IV antibiotic treatment continued for 8 weeks.  Outpatient treatment then consisted of taking a plethora of daily oral drugs for the following 6 months with monthly blood, sputum and x-ray (as well as 1 MRI scan) tests.  I was advised that my overall health and fitness with early hospitalisation helped with my eventual recovery but I have lost some lung capacity and previous fitness.

 

It was eventually determined that the lung infection was probably Melioidosis which had been initially diagnosed as pneumonia and a strain of TB.  Apparently, I was very fortunate to have survived because of the high mortality rate of Melioidosis.