Member of public calls immigration: Japanese pensioner whose Thai wife died found hiding on overstay

[petedk]

10 minutes ago, Captain Monday said:

What the hell are you talking about? Does your country mollycoddle and temper illegal aliens? The photo shows unarmed immigration officers doing their jobs. No Stormtroopers. The man could have  changed his visa if his wife died. If he does not have so much per month coming in or a Thai bank  deposit or Thai Children he does not qualify to live in Thailand!

 

If more people followed the rules foreigners here would have fewer problems.

 

 

 

So easy to say something like that.

 

I know at least five or six foreigners who have lived here for more than 30 years. If their wives die, they cannot change their visas to retirement visa as they have no income from abroad. They can't go back to England or Germany as they have nothing there either. The rules should allow for people in their situations.

 

Two of them don't have children. I have no idea how much money they have in the bank.

Edited March 5, 2020 by petedk

[ChipButty]

23 minutes ago, Captain Monday said:

If more people followed the rules foreigners here would have fewer problems.

 

 

 

You reckon?

[ChipButty]

I just hope he is able to get some help from somewhere and not left to rot in the IDC it seems people are just thrown in there and forgotten about I hope his embassy can help him in some way, not like the British embassy mai son jai 

[Swede65]

2 hours ago, tifino said:

Land of Raw Fish 

Vs. 

Land of Smelly Pickled Fish 

 

 

Would have been worse if he'd come from Lapland of really bad smelling Pickled Herring! 

 

OMG, I chuckled at the first two and LOL:d the third as I'm Swedish!!! And "we" eat surströmming, fermented fish, that makes pla ra smell like summer fields!!! 

 

Kudos tifino!

[tifino]

3 minutes ago, Swede65 said:

OMG, I chuckled at the first two and LOL:d the third as I'm Swedish!!! And "we" eat surströmming, fermented fish, that makes pla ra smell like summer fields!!! 

 

Kudos tifino!

 

'Been There Done (Smelt) That' ???? ???? ????            ???? 

[new2here]

Regardless of whose “business” it is or is not aside, it appears that the facts are he is/was in an overstay status - and as such, has rule afoul of Thai law.  I do have empathy for him, but at the same time, can’t also turn a blind eye to violation of law.

 

Do I think this is perhaps overkill?  Sure, I think that a case can be made for that.. but again, the facts (as I have read and interpret them) are that he is/was on overstay status, thus became subject to enforcement action..

 

[FarFlungFalang]

48 minutes ago, Captain Monday said:

If more people followed the rules foreigners here would have fewer problems.

Do you of;;ow all the rules?Do you know all the rules?If you've broken one single rule you should be deported.In fact you should be deported for your lack of knowing what is right and what is wrong.You would have to be a supporter of the current foul regime with such an attitude.Not all rules are just.

[GarryP]

2 hours ago, Thaiwrath said:

"Good Samaritan" my ar*e, more like "Nosey B*stard". 

The use of "Good Samaritan" in inverted commas sort of shows that the translator is using poetic license. Having read the article, in the context used, a more accurate translation would be "good citizen" or "upstanding citizen".   

[Raymonddiaz]

2 hours ago, Assurancetourix said:

 

It would be good if apprentice Thai journalists use the right expressions because to write "good Samaritan" when it is about delation .. Not exactly the same thing 
"the neighbor figure in the parable is the man who shows mercy to the injured man — that is, the Samaritan."

 

Reminder: delation is the national sport in Thailand 

Good rat would be more accurate

[Odysseus123]

2 hours ago, Topdoc said:

The land of snoop dogs

Asia has always been the land of snoop dogs.

 

They are bees in the hive.

 

(Mind you Europe hasn't fared much better)

[bluesofa]

2 hours ago, Kinnock said:

In the UK there was a press report about an illegal immigrant who had been sleeping on London night buses for several years.  He was given citizenship.

{snipped}

Did he get a bus pass too?

[honoluludave]

Their silly little smart car had nothing to do with catching this old guy who never left his house. He was turned in by an informant. Plain and simple

[TooBigToFit]

2 hours ago, CLS said:

In democratic countries his marriage would entitle him for a permanent settlement visa or even citizenship. This is a human right by the way. But TH is a banana republic, such a backward nation that not even respects basic human rights. Call it a failed state. Dictatorships will never thrive.

True. It's also true that most Thais really don't care about foreigners rights, especially those who get the right to residence or citizenship in other countries. It's not just regime; it's Thais. In other nations, human rights is important and foreigners exploit that. The laws protecting human rights make sense but it is annoying to many people especially with foreigners breaking laws. Foreigners in the west call the people racists who don't like their law breaking. In Thailand, the racism and xenophobia is written into law and that lets the people off the hook. Thais don't have to complain about foreigners because their government does the work. Thais look like they are outside the issue because they can just blame the government. But in fact, educated Thais know the deal. They are racists who never open their mouths pleased that their government takes the blame.

[TooBigToFit]

2 hours ago, drbeach said:

Maybe the guy was in long-term "self-quarantine" being from Japan. OK, I know, bad joke.

 

Seriously though, I'm puzzled why Thais would "snitch" on an elderly old fart who was minding his own business? I mean, if I wanted to, I too could theorize about the activities of my Thai neighbors but I don't judge - why should I care whether they stay in their house all day long? As long as they are quiet and decent people who mind their own business, there is no reason to do anything. Just let each other be.

I'm sure there is someone who might want the house and property. If the house is in his wife's name, the man would have problems getting ownership of it and the land. Thailand's full of abuse and corruption.

[EricTh]

25 minutes ago, pdtokyo said:

curious to know if those nine generalisations (9 in one little post!) are based on your personal experience after living in Japan. Or are they just ordinary generalisations?

I have never been to Japan but from what I read about living indexes,  newspaper reports themselves, photographs etc.

 

If you can find me a report that contradicts these 9 generalisations, please provide the links.

 

Japan is one of the richest countries in the world with world class medical health etc. All these are reported in newspaper reports.

 

The only complaint I hear from Japanese is it is a very stressful society but these people are already retired.

 

Living in Thailand they would have trouble with the language, culture, food and weather. 

Edited March 5, 2020 by EricTh

[OILMAN13]

4 hours ago, steven100 said:

so don't go around minding your own god damn business, it'll get you in trouble and you'll be considered suspicious.

 

4 hours ago, tonray said:

Everybody attacking Thai Immigration for doing their job. The Japanese guy knew the rules when he entered the country....he was an illigal immigrant...the same kind that you all rail against when inside the borders of your own sovereign nations....get him out...if you don't have the decency or the smarts to obey local laws as a guest in a foreign country....then you deserve arrest and deportation.

You are a lovely person full of empathy. Don't you think there should be a mechanism in place to help someone like this? If a law is unjust, I say screw it. He wasn't hurting anyone, apparently, and allegedly rarely left his house. The Immigration Laws need to be looked at and lots of amending needs to take place. IMHO.

[steven100]

5 minutes ago, OILMAN13 said:

 

You are a lovely person full of empathy. Don't you think there should be a mechanism in place to help someone like this? If a law is unjust, I say screw it. He wasn't hurting anyone, apparently, and allegedly rarely left his house. The Immigration Laws need to be looked at and lots of amending needs to take place. IMHO.

I agree what you say .....  I'm more p_issed about the nosy a*se neighbour who snitched on him. Probably a relative of the wife or someone who stands to gain a property from it.

[OILMAN13]

9 minutes ago, steven100 said:

I agree what you say .....  I'm more p_issed about the nosy a*se neighbour who snitched on him. Probably a relative of the wife or someone who stands to gain a property from it.

I hear you friend. I've been "happily" married to my Thai wife for 36 years and luckily for me, her family are the loveliest people I know. However, I know plenty of Thai folks who love to screw a farang any chance they get. What surprises me is this guy is Japanese and they usually tolerate other Asians better than white Farangs so I agree they probably wanted his house. Didn't mean to come down on you too hard. The Immigration Laws need a good overhaul but I doubt I'll live to see that happen. 

Edited March 5, 2020 by OILMAN13
typo

[jlwilliamsjr18]

The Smart Car is Everywhere. It's truly amazing. ????

[smedly]

5 hours ago, Thaiwrath said:

"Good Samaritan" my ar*e, more like "Nosey B*stard". 

and the house goes too ?

[Isaanbiker]

Phetchabun immigration utilised the now infamous BMW "Smart Car" to arrest a Japanese man living alone in the Wang Chomphu sub-district. 

 

Immigration were called in by a member of the public and the German Smart Car immediately drove to the house of the Japanese gangster without any Data input by the Immigration.

 

   Gotta love these Smart cars. 

[giddyup]

5 hours ago, tonray said:

Everybody attacking Thai Immigration for doing their job. The Japanese guy knew the rules when he entered the country....he was an illigal immigrant...the same kind that you all rail against when inside the borders of your own sovereign nations....get him out...if you don't have the decency or the smarts to obey local laws as a guest in a foreign country....then you deserve arrest and deportation.

The difference is he's not living off welfare and being a drain on the public purse.

[Vacuum]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

Immigration were called in by a member of the public. 

 

They had been told by the informant that there was a person who looked like a foreigner who hardly ever went out of his house. They thought he might be a wanted criminal.

 

He was just minding his own business in his house, it all seemed very suspicious, the informant told immigration

This "member of the public" is a bad member and should be dealt with accordingly. Mind your own business!

[KhaoNiaw]

5 hours ago, Assurancetourix said:

 

It would be good if apprentice Thai journalists use the right expressions because to write "good Samaritan" when it is about delation .. Not exactly the same thing 
"the neighbor figure in the parable is the man who shows mercy to the injured man — that is, the Samaritan."

 

Reminder: delation is the national sport in Thailand 

Probably the ThaiVisa translator since the original article is in Thai, which uses a  Thai term which could just be directly translated as a "good citizen". 

[rocket3rider]

Poor old <deleted> may have had altzheimers, who knows.

 

Supports his wife and probably her kids/family and other hangers on and then gets booted.

 

Heartless!

[Chazar]

5 hours ago, tonray said:

Everybody attacking Thai Immigration for doing their job. The Japanese guy knew the rules when he entered the country....he was an illigal immigrant...the same kind that you all rail against when inside the borders of your own sovereign nations....get him out...if you don't have the decency or the smarts to obey local laws as a guest in a foreign country....then you deserve arrest and deportation.

and  harpooning  surely  at  the  very  least!

[Nakmuay887]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

He was just minding his own business in his house, it all seemed very suspicious, the informant told immigration

This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever read. He probably wasn't drinking enough bad booze and being loud enough so it came across as suspect to his neighbors 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Looks like a nicely kept house/home.  Wonder if the deceased wife's family members decided they wanted it for themselves???

 

[metempsychotic]

5 hours ago, tifino said:

Maybe the deadly criminal of a naughty foreigner was subsisting; by taking on her identity I. E pension etc  and ignoring all else in the letterbox? 

He must have been living large indeed.

[DPKANKAN]

5 hours ago, Thaiwrath said:

"Good Samaritan" my ar*e, more like "Nosey B*stard". 

Actually, don't they get a reward for dobbing people in!!????????????????