The unwanted race with a Diesel Pick up and the dead engine of the truck

[Isaanbiker]

Today, I was riding my bike after work when I saw a pick-up truck right in front of me with a lot of black smoke coming out of the exhaust system.

 

I think it was a Toyota, but I didn't keep attention to the brand.

 

I was only wondering why anybody would do that to a Diesel engine. 

 

The driver of this pick up gave all and accelerated each gear that even more smoke came out. All I wanted was to get away from his black smoke, and when I finally took over, I watched him in my mirrors.

 

I switched to the right lane and accelerated. He was gone in a second.

 

 Unfortunately, did his engine give up, and a lot of smoke came out of his hood. He came to an abrupt stop, and there's no way that he could continue to drive with the damaged engine. 

 

 I was never planning to race with a pick-up, but the younger bloke must have thought so. 

 

Even when I feel sorry for his loss, I've learned another part of Thai male behavior.

 

All I know is that the guy must hate me for something I didn't even do. 

 

Why are these people so strange? 

 

 

   

 

 

  

[guzzi850m2]

You see a lot of those lowered pick-up trucks, normally driven by young males.

 

Some are quite fast, it's normal in almost any country that young males like/want fast cars, why should Thais be different?

 

Why do you think he hates you?

[papa al]

They resent our relative affluence.

[Farangwithaplan]

10 minutes ago, papa al said:

They resent our relative affluence.

Papa, do you need specially made sunglasses? ????

[papa al]

8 minutes ago, Farangwithaplan said:

Papa, do you need specially made sunglasses? ????

How did you know?

[Kwasaki]

Why would anyone on a motorbike thats not faster than trucks race a pick-up truck that has worn out injectors but still capable of speed..

[Isaanbiker]

1 hour ago, guzzi850m2 said:

You see a lot of those lowered pick-up trucks, normally driven by young males.

 

Some are quite fast, it's normal in almost any country that young males like/want fast cars, why should Thais be different?

 

Why do you think he hates you?

Because he might not have paid for it and has a broken engine? Lol

[Isaanbiker]

3 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

Why would anyone on a motorbike thats not faster than trucks race a pick-up truck that has worn out injectors but still capable of speed..

I'd have thought that not only the nozzles were faulty, perhaps three to four liters of oil were burnt. A terrible combination. ????

Maybe the "dude" had learnt a lesson?

[Damrongsak]

5 hours ago, Farangwithaplan said:

Papa, do you need specially made sunglasses? ????

Trifocals.  I prefer a monocle.

 

Edited March 5, 2020 by Damrongsak

[VocalNeal]

Why would anyone think the injectors are worn? Unless of course it was a clapped out old farm truck and not a modified one. 

[scorecard]

You think too mut, get a hobby, grow some vegetables...

[canthai55]

Black smoke - unburned fuel

Blue smoke - burned oil

White smoke - water (which don't burn)

[Lacessit]

The other option was to slow down and let the pickup go ahead, to avoid the smoke. Perhaps there was a duo of testosterone in play.

[Tarteso]

27 minutes ago, canthai55 said:

White smoke - water (which don't burn)

I Thought white smoke was meaning

”Habemus papam” “We have a Pope”.????

[Grumpy John]

A lot of the clowns in LOS make modifications to their engines for more performance.  A common one is to put a "chip" in the computer for extra performance...which is a cheap method but the downside is without extensive other modifications it produces clouds of smoke for the little performance gains it makes.

[Kwasaki]

1 hour ago, VocalNeal said:

Why would anyone think the injectors are worn? Unless of course it was a clapped out old farm truck and not a modified one. 

Black smoke is a diesel engine that has a problem.

Common causes of black smoke by diesel engines are faulty injectors or faulty injector pump or a bad air filter causing lack of oxygen.

Also a bad EGR valve causes the valves to clog up, if the truck in question had a tubo even a bad turbocharger.

[Isaanbiker]

4 hours ago, scorecard said:

You think too mut, get a hobby, grow some vegetables...

Great idea! I was thinking about a crocodile farm.....

 

    

[Isaanbiker]

2 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

Black smoke is a diesel engine that has a problem.

Common causes of black smoke by diesel engines are faulty injectors or faulty injector pump or a bad air filter causing lack of oxygen.

Also a bad EGR valve causes the valves to clog up, if the truck in question had a tubo even a bad turbocharger.

It's usually the nozzles and the Diesel pump. My Diesel pump was overhauled twice now, and it's pretty pricey—around 7,000 baht. 

 

This guy had a turbo, I heard it screaming when I passed by.

 

I find it hard to believe that they build 2 liter engines with a turbo.

 

I prefer the 2,860 cc of my Mitsu pick up L200 that easily does 160 km/h. 

 

Over 300,000 km on the clock and still going strong.

 

But that's only because I service it properly. Oil change every 5 K. 

 

These people buy huge wheels that are way too big for the truck but can't even afford an oil change.

Then a loud exhaust which makes the truck twice as fast, of course with some Rally stickers.... Maybe not. Lol

[Isaanbiker]

4 hours ago, VocalNeal said:

Why would anyone think the injectors are worn? Unless of course it was a clapped out old farm truck and not a modified one. 

If so much black smoke comes out, it's usually a sign that they're worn out. You wouldn't even see it if the engine is burning a lot of oil. The blue smoke wouldn't be visible.

 

 

[NCC1701A]

they do it deliberately to produce as much black smoke as possible. 

 

they think it is funny.

 

i hope they all die.

 

edit: i hope they all get cancer from the carcinogenic smoke they spew into the atmosphere.  

Edited March 6, 2020 by NCC1701A

[Isaanbiker]

4 minutes ago, NCC1701A said:

they do it deliberately to produce as much black smoke as possible. 

 

they think it is funny.

 

i hope they all die.

C' Mon. That's not a reason to die. They're already suffering a lot. 

Why else would you do something similar?

 

 

[NCC1701A]

3 minutes ago, Isaanbiker said:

C' Mon. That's not a reason to die. They're already suffering a lot. 

Why else would you do something similar?

 

 

 

9 minutes ago, NCC1701A said:

they do it deliberately to produce as much black smoke as possible. 

 

they think it is funny.

 

i hope they all die.

 

edit: i hope they all get cancer from the carcinogenic smoke they spew into the atmosphere.  

there i changed it.

[CGW]

17 minutes ago, Isaanbiker said:

I find it hard to believe that they build 2 liter engines with a turbo.

You better become a believer! 

[VocalNeal]

3 hours ago, Isaanbiker said:

If so much black smoke comes out, it's usually a sign that they're worn out. You wouldn't even see it if the engine is burning a lot of oil. The blue smoke wouldn't be visible.

 

 

Black smoke is usually a sign that the injector pressure has been raised or if electronic common rail that the ECU has been chipped or has a piggyback. 

 

That is if it is not a clapped out out farm truck in which case why would they want to race.

 

No worn injectors

Edited March 6, 2020 by VocalNeal

[Isaanbiker]

4 hours ago, VocalNeal said:

Black smoke is usually a sign that the injector pressure has been raised or if electronic common rail that the ECU has been chipped or has a piggyback. 

 

That is if it is not a clapped out out farm truck in which case why would they want to race.

 

No worn injectors

Thanks for your post. I wasn't even thinking about chip tuning and ECU remapping of the little Diesel engine from a pick-up truck.

 

Only a little bit Googling and I've found some interesting stuff ( actually not for me)

 

"ECU Thailand is the ECU Remapping Engine Tuning Specialists for Petrol and Diesel, Cars, Trucks, Pick-Ups, Motor Bikes, and Marine Engines. ECU Thailand was established here in Bangkok by our chief engineer and German owner a little of 10 years ago.

 

RPT’s ‘Engine Control Unit’ remapping service, optimizes the performance of your vehicle's engine and delivers an increase of up to 30% in BHP ‘POWER’ and 35% in Torque ‘DRIVEABILITY’. We can also remove engine speed restrictors or governors, thus making for a more responsive exciting driving experience for you."

 

That makes perfect sense. You take an engine that's already too small for the weight it has to carry, and you do something to it that neither the bearings nor the pistons want. ( Plus plenty of other parts that aren't made for high RPM's. )

 

Removing engine speed restrictors will only result in the sudden death of the engine, especially when your injectors and fuel pump are fragged up. But how could they even know that?

 

I never had my Mitsu in the red area of RPM's and I know why, understanding how an engine works, but also considering what drivers do not want.

 

Yes, I understand. You can make such a tiny engine to a racing engine, but not for very long. And the engine will die sooner or later.

 

Neither the bearings nor the gaskets are made for such an additional power surplus.

 

 It all tells me that these people are braindead who do that to their pickups that are often not even paid. 

 

I treat my Mitsu engine like a lady. Oil change every 5 K. I check all and everything each week and do what's necessary.  

 

What started with a race for this guy ( not for me) should never have happened with a bike that has 62 horses on one wheel and an experienced rider.

 

If these poor blokes are using such technology as an extension of their penis, it's their fault when things go wrong.

 

Here's some interesting stuff for those who want to shorten the life of their cars.

 

http://www.ecuthailand.com/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

Edited March 6, 2020 by Isaanbiker

[alacrity]

7 hours ago, CGW said:

You better become a believer! 

eco-boost motors?

 

[Kwasaki]

9 hours ago, Isaanbiker said:

I find it hard to believe that they build 2 liter engines with a turbo.

With respect I think your behind the times these days with tech stuff I try to keep up having once been an engineer but it moves fast.

Our 1.9 Isuzu is just as good as was my 3ltr Vigo, in Europe they have twin turbos but Thailand I guess wouldn't allow them wanted to keep speeds down I assume.

[CGW]

1 hour ago, Victornoir said:

Another urban legend.
I always installed a chip in my cars without ever knowing the slightest engine problem.
For a small fee, the gain is enormous in terms of torque, power and ultimately in driving pleasure.

Exactly vehicle's are "chipped" to meet ridiculous emission criteria, above all else.

[VocalNeal]

2 hours ago, Isaanbiker said:

You take an engine that's already too small for the weight it has to carry,

That has to be a 5l guy's comparison. ???? Torque is what is required. 3l turbo probably has enough torque. I used to win beers in the Legion because my my 1.5 l flat four VW pickup had a rated capacity of 2000 kg. More than a half ton.

Edited March 6, 2020 by VocalNeal

[Isaanbiker]

14 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

With respect I think your behind the times these days with tech stuff I try to keep up having once been an engineer but it moves fast.

Our 1.9 Isuzu is just as good as was my 3ltr Vigo, in Europe they have twin turbos but Thailand I guess wouldn't allow them wanted to keep speeds down I assume.

My point being was more than these newer engines might deliver a lot of power/torque, but the reliability is not as it once was.

 

  What are the chances of having 300,000 km + on such a tuned engine?

 

IMO, turbo engines wear out faster because the gained power is harder on the pistons, bearings and other components of the engine.

 

And of course it's hard on the oil, especially when never changed, considering young Thais with turbocharged pick ups, not having enough cash to service a car properly.

 

My "naturally inspired" Mitsu L 200, now with more than 300,000 km on the clock still runs like a Swiss Clockwork.

 

I doubt that one of these 1.5 liters with Turbocharger have the same reliability.