The unwanted race with a Diesel Pick up and the dead engine of the truck

[Kwasaki]

3 hours ago, Isaanbiker said:

My point being was more than these newer engines might deliver a lot of power/torque, but the reliability is not as it once was.

 

  What are the chances of having 300,000 km + on such a tuned engine?

 

IMO, turbo engines wear out faster because the gained power is harder on the pistons, bearings and other components of the engine.

 

And of course it's hard on the oil, especially when never changed, considering young Thais with turbocharged pick ups, not having enough cash to service a car properly.

 

My "naturally inspired" Mitsu L 200, now with more than 300,000 km on the clock still runs like a Swiss Clockwork.

 

I doubt that one of these 1.5 liters with Turbocharger have the same reliability.

 

Again with respect your wrong as I said  tech advancement has left you behind. ????

[canthai55]

4 hours ago, Isaanbiker said:

IMO, turbo engines wear out faster because the gained power is harder on the pistons, bearings and other components of the engine.

Where I work in Yukon territory a lady who owns a pilot car business passed 1,000,000 km on her V8 Turbo diesel pickup - and it's a Chevrolet.

Engine never had the valve covers off it, tranny never been opened.

Let us know when yours hits 1 million

[Kwasaki]

35 minutes ago, canthai55 said:

Where I work in Yukon territory a lady who owns a pilot car business passed 1,000,000 km on her V8 Turbo diesel pickup - and it's a Chevrolet.

Engine never had the valve covers off it, tranny never been opened.

Let us know when yours hits 1 million

Never mine silly kpm let's remind UK bus engine did a million miles before they were replaced.

 

[Don Mega]

lol @ the dinosaurs in this thread !!

[Yorkshire Tea]

On 3/6/2020 at 12:39 PM, Isaanbiker said:

 

 

I prefer the 2,860 cc of my Mitsu pick up L200 that easily does 160 km/h. 

 

Over 300,000 km on the clock and still going strong.

 

 

non turbo Strada easily doing 160kph?  

[Isaanbiker]

3 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

Again with respect your wrong as I said  tech advancement has left you behind. ????

Thanks. I have to admit that I'm more knowledgeable on older cars and bikes and I guess it's time to catch up.

 

   BTW, "you're wrong" and "Your writing". No offense, please. 

[Isaanbiker]

3 hours ago, canthai55 said:

Where I work in Yukon territory a lady who owns a pilot car business passed 1,000,000 km on her V8 Turbo diesel pickup - and it's a Chevrolet.

Engine never had the valve covers off it, tranny never been opened.

Let us know when yours hits 1 million

You might not believe me when I'm telling you that I still got the first brake shoes in the rear!

 

   I'm using my gears to brake speed down and I always did that, it's in my blood.

 

  The truck is 24 years old, the color job was done by some idiots and could be better.

 

But all technical stuff is always done before something stupid could happen. ( For example a ball joint that pops out when doing 140 km/h....)

 

I drove cabs on weekends when I studied at university and had a few colleagues who easily put on one million km's on a Benz Diesel engine, usually the 200, 220 and 240 type ones. W 123. 

 

   The problem putting 1 million km's on my truck might be my lifespan "only". 

 

I'm at 335,000 now and would have to live very long to be able to do so.

 

I'm certain that it would be possible to put one million on the engine. Servicing and handling a Diesel engine well pays back well.

 

But I have my doubts that a newer 1.5 liter Diesel with a turbo could do that. Just because they wear out faster.

 

And I know that I'm not wrong with this statement, no need to Google anything. 

 

  

 

  

 

 

 

  

 

[Isaanbiker]

2 hours ago, Yorkshire Tea said:

non turbo Strada easily doing 160kph?  

Yep, but only the one with the 2.8 liter engine. In the papers is 165 km/h as high speed. I did that speed pretty often. 

[Kwasaki]

9 minutes ago, Isaanbiker said:

BTW, "you're wrong" and "Your writing". No offense, please. 

Sorry please explain I am always open to criticism and keep an open mind, after 3 bottles of Chang. ???????? 

[Isaanbiker]

1 minute ago, Kwasaki said:

Sorry please explain I am always open to criticism and keep an open mind, after 3 bottles of Chang. ???????? 

We're good and I didn't do that to criticise you. That was in no way what I wanted. Excuse my stupidity, please. 

[Isaanbiker]

3 hours ago, canthai55 said:

Where I work in Yukon territory a lady who owns a pilot car business passed 1,000,000 km on her V8 Turbo diesel pickup - and it's a Chevrolet.

Engine never had the valve covers off it, tranny never been opened.

Let us know when yours hits 1 million

The V 8 made it happen. You can't replace a lot of cubic inches. 

A lot of power in all RPM's. Plus a turbo must be really fast, methinks. 

 

But the times where very good material, including the right diameter for copper cables was being used, seem to be over.

 

More and more plastic replaces what once was steel, or Aluminium. ( Aluminum for guys from the US) 

[tifino]

young whippersnapper had his botty so close to the ground,

he got the ultimate nappyrash 

 

 

 

dummyspit, back to mummy 

 

[Kwasaki]

4 minutes ago, Isaanbiker said:

We're good and I didn't do that to criticise you. That was in no way what I wanted. Excuse my stupidity, please. 

Nah come on, you and me I see as cyber motorcycle buddies, we may not agree on many things, we don't share bike choice views but we are all just motorcycle guys.

[DavisH]

On 3/6/2020 at 12:41 PM, Isaanbiker said:

If so much black smoke comes out, it's usually a sign that they're worn out. You wouldn't even see it if the engine is burning a lot of oil. The blue smoke wouldn't be visible.

 

 

It could also be remapped to run rich - diesels run better when they run a little rich. But that can create the black smoke. I think they do it also to be antisocial - you can get plenty of performace from a diesel without billowing out black smoke. It police actually did their job, thse cars wouldn't exist on our roads. No need for the government to complain about pm2.5. 

[jastheace]

19 minutes ago, DavisH said:

It could also be remapped to run rich - diesels run better when they run a little rich. But that can create the black smoke. I think they do it also to be antisocial - you can get plenty of performace from a diesel without billowing out black smoke. It police actually did their job, thse cars wouldn't exist on our roads. No need for the government to complain about pm2.5. 

going back a while now, but i used to be able to adjust the fuel/ air mixture on my old diesel truck. went like a bomb when running rich, but lots of black smoke. had to wind it back for the annual emissions test. 

[Artisi]

Diesel engine black smoke, over fuelling, either from buggered injectors or modifications. 

[VocalNeal]

Apparently the laying of diesel smoke is called Rolling Coal. ????????????

[Isaanbiker]

2 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

Nah come on, you and me I see as cyber motorcycle buddies, we may not agree on many things, we don't share bike choice views but we are all just motorcycle guys.

Thanks, bro. You're welcome. 

[Isaanbiker]

1 hour ago, jastheace said:

going back a while now, but i used to be able to adjust the fuel/ air mixture on my old diesel truck. went like a bomb when running rich, but lots of black smoke. had to wind it back for the annual emissions test. 

My truck, former 2.8 liter L 200 Mitsubishi, two models before the Triton was invented has a early turbo like technological detail. Unburned Diesel is blown into the combustion chamber again, but these engines had a little problem with black smoke as well.

 

Even after I got my injectors and pump overhauled, the problem still exists, but only when I fully accelerate. It's only got 102 horses, but the engine is pretty powerful for a Diesel engine.

 

  A double Duplex timing chain makes sure that you only have to change it every 150,000 km's. 

 

My bike's 25, ( a Yamaha Virago 1100 cc), but only 23 K on the clock, the truck is now 24 years old, but I love both because of their reliability.

 

I fix my bike alone, overhaul carbs and do all sorts of stuff, including electrical problems, which I've learned a long time ago.

 

I've gotta agree with one guy telling me how old fashioned I am. Actually, I always had oldtimers, plenty of classic Mercedes Benz back home, you could buy for peanuts, put another engine in and drive it.

 

  Even when I love some BMW, Porsche and others, I prefer the comfortable way of getting from A to B. But people are different.

 

  I'd like to thank you guys very much for your technological input. What had started with an idiot who thought he could beat a relatively fast bike, it somehow turned into a nice topic with people who know what they're talking about. 

 

  I really appreciate your knowledge. 

 

     

 

   

 

   

 

    

[liddelljohn]

Thats great news that the damn stinking machine has blown up hope its too expensive to repairs   SOM NOM NA

 

[Happy Grumpy]

If you can't please a woman, get a low slung pick-up and get upset and race other guys while driving. 

[Isaanbiker]

35 minutes ago, liddelljohn said:

Thats great news that the damn stinking machine has blown up hope its too expensive to repairs   SOM NOM NA

 

They might use a wooden piston and weld the others. You never know what these mechanics here are up to.

 

  I was stupid enough to let my former bike get a carb tune which it didn't really needed.

 

It resulted in a broken engine when the rear and first cylinder ran too lean after his great job.

 

  I'm wondering if this bike's still running on Phuket? Attached is  a photo of my former bike.

 

If anybody has seen it, or knows who the owner is, I'd be more than happy to talk to him.

 

I sent it to him via truck service and it had a Screaming Eagle Exhaust, Chromed Fenders, a Crash Bar,  and a lot of other stuff.

 

All I remember is that he's English. Thanks a lot in advance. P.S. It's a 750 cc Virago with tubes in the front forks. Great to adjust your suspension!

[Isaanbiker]

Having so many professionals on board, I've got a serious question.

 

  I've just spent a fortune for a damn Chrome cover for my fuel pump.

 

I rode my bike now for 18 months now without one, but some members of a Virago Facebook forum told me that the fuel pump could get too hot, especially when riding a longer distance.

 

The damn thingy was 68 bucks and an American friend brought it back for me after sending it to his address. The fees for the customs and shipping would have been another 40 bucks.

 

IMO, the pump that sits right next to the rear exhaust where it gets the hottest, right at the cylinder doesn't get the wind anymore with the cover.

 

   The material is plastic with Chrome on the outside. It might weight 20 grams or 30, not more.

 

  Could the fuel pump really get too hot and stop working after a long ride?

 

We all know how hot it can get here, the summer has just started. ( Sweating like a pig...)

 

Your input is more than welcome, please see photos. 

 

[Happy Grumpy]

^ + ^^ I think it's great that in this day and age we can happily have homosexuals open up on here. ????

[PatOngo]

On 3/5/2020 at 9:52 PM, Isaanbiker said:

Why are these people so strange? 

Don't worry about it, it's a cultural affliction! It effects most Thai males!

 

 

[VocalNeal]

7 hours ago, Isaanbiker said:

They might use a wooden piston

 Common in Britain during WWII to improvise repairs. Wooden piston with tin can top.

[Don Mega]

11 hours ago, DavisH said:

 you can get plenty of performace from a diesel without billowing out black smoke.

Yeah we used to make 350hp at the wheels running a 34mm intake restrictor  in our 2.5l Mazda race pickups.... no smoke.

[Kwasaki]

9 hours ago, Isaanbiker said:

 

 

Your input is more than welcome, please see photos. 

 

 

If you are concerned and want to keep it, if it were me I would carefully in a neat pattern drill a series of say 3mm/4mm holes front side and rear so air can be drawn in.

[canthai55]

10 hours ago, Isaanbiker said:

Your input is more than welcome, please see photos.

Get a stainless steel heat shield made. Use original factory fuel pump bolts to mount it between rear cylinder and pump.

2cm clearance will make a big difference

[Isaanbiker]

58 minutes ago, canthai55 said:

Get a stainless steel heat shield made. Use original factory fuel pump bolts to mount it between rear cylinder and pump.

2cm clearance will make a big difference

The heat shield is attached at the rear of the pump. It's the original pump, not a cheap Chinese copy.

 

  The original cover is made of plastic, not stainless steel. I have about 3 cm clearance. Pretty strange location for a fuel pump. 

 

The photo from the other side shows that there's some open space for air, as well as when looking at it from front. 

 

I'd have guessed to get it cooled when riding. But what do i know?

 

  It worked well without the cover for 18 months, but I do believe some owners who reported of problems when riding a long distance.

 

I never did a very long distance to be sure. 

 

The weather here is just hot. 

 

But I'm planning to get rid off the pump, plus the OEM exhaust. It's not a 2 in 2 exhaust, there's a funny box where both cylinders are connected to.

 

  Direct feed and a Mac exhaust might be the last change at it.

 

There's an extra tank under the left side cover and a reserve switch at the handlebar.

 

IMO, not really needed/ The exhaust, extra tank and fuel pump will soon be past. It's just a matter of time and money. 

 

  Thanks for your post.