Trump suspends all travel from Europe to the United States to fight coronavirus

[JHolmesJr]

Even the best resident cant do anything when the general population behave like asses.

Travelling on holidays, going out when sick, eating out, wearing mask like it s a Halloween costume,

rubbing eyes even while wearing mask.....the list of dumb activities goes on and on.

 

Even if there are testing kits you cant test 10 minion people all at once and have the results

in a second....there will be people who dont take instructions and they will be the reason this spreads.

 

Look at the way theyre handling it elsewhere.....in Indonesia....theyre acting like they have 0 cases.

[alanrchase]

13 minutes ago, JHolmesJr said:

Even the best resident cant do anything when the general population behave like asses.

Travelling on holidays, going out when sick, eating out, wearing mask like it s a Halloween costume,

rubbing eyes even while wearing mask.....the list of dumb activities goes on and on.

 

Even if there are testing kits you cant test 10 minion people all at once and have the results

in a second....there will be people who dont take instructions and they will be the reason this spreads.

 

Look at the way theyre handling it elsewhere.....in Indonesia....theyre acting like they have 0 cases.

So what are you saying? Even the best resident? 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

 

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Trump had photo taken with infected Brazilian official but does not plan to get tested for coronavirus

A senior Brazilian official who dined and was photographed with President Donald Trump and Vice President Mike Pence last weekend in Florida is infected with the coronavirus, marking the closest known contact between Trump and someone carrying the highly communicable illness that has shuttered many aspects of daily life across the globe and cratered financial markets.

 

 

https://www.nationthailand.com/lifestyle/30383981?utm_source=bottom_relate&utm_medium=internal_referral

 

 

Edited March 13, 2020 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[URMySunshine]

10 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

 

https://www.nationthailand.com/lifestyle/30383981?utm_source=bottom_relate&utm_medium=internal_referral

 

 

He'll be gone in weeks one way or another by runaway events that he is no longer in control of and a praetorian guard that will abandon him when they see the clear and present danger to the Nation. 

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/13/politics/trump-coronavirus-statement-markets/index.html

 

President Donald Trump has grown more and more irate as his attempts to contain the political fallout of coronavirus -- much less the health crisis itself -- continue to fall short, people close to him said.

Trump watched angrily from the West Wing Thursday as stock markets tumbled to their worst percentage loss since the 1987 Black Friday, casting blame on the Federal Reserve for what he increasingly believes is an attempt to ruin his presidency.

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/13/coronavirus-consumes-trumps-reelection-bid-127852

 

“You could make a strong argument that the only thing that matters to the president’s reelection now is getting the response correct,” said Scott Jennings, who served as a top political aide in the George W. Bush White House. “No rally is going to save you if you are judged as having failed as the president."

 

[Isaanbiker]

On 3/12/2020 at 5:27 PM, Chiphigh said:

Your opinion of what a functioning health system is means nothing. I am an American and I have never had a problem with my health care, but then I work for a living and don't expect to be given things at every turn to satisfy some Europeans version of what health care is and I especially don't want to pay taxes like a European. 

Please tell me what's more important. 

Country G) Everybody can go to a doctor or hospital and will be treated, even if they don't have cash. 

 

 Country A: Plenty of mass destruction weapons, tanks, and other for me useless stuff. No insurance and you might end up dying in front of a hospital. 

 

I rather like to pay taxes for something useful than for guns and a system that fully controls me.

 

But people are different. Please give peace a chance. 

 

   

Edited March 13, 2020 by Isaanbiker
Peace

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

11 minutes ago, URMySunshine said:

casting blame on the Federal Reserve for what he increasingly believes is an attempt to ruin his presidency.

 

That's what it's always about with him -- HIM!!!   Not what's going to happen to the world, the country, not what's going to happen to the American people.

 

Just HIM, how it affects him and his legacy, and what they say about HIM on Fox News when he's watching by the hour.

 

HIM HIM HIM... from start to finish. That's all there is in his mind.

 

 

Edited March 13, 2020 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[URMySunshine]

BREAKING - Brazilian President tests positive. 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/mar/13/coronavirus-live-updates-uk-us-australia-italy-europe-school-shutdown-share-markets-sport-events-cancelled-latest-update-news

 

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-brazil-bolsonaro/brazils-bolsonaro-says-coronavirus-is-not-all-the-media-makes-it-out-to-be-idUSKBN20X24P

Edited March 13, 2020 by URMySunshine

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

3 hours ago, alanrchase said:

A great speech? He gave some terribly incorrect information during it. If it was an off the cuff briefing he could be excused but it was a prepared speech. Does no one proof read his speeches before he gives them? No need to be a hater to acknowledge how bad this was.

 

 

He sounded like a bored robot reading the speech. Someone seriously needs to give him some teleprompter lessons.... Or, maybe, he just isn't into any topic other than self-adulation.

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

7 minutes ago, URMySunshine said:

BREAKING - Brazilian President tests positive. 

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/mar/13/coronavirus-live-updates-uk-us-australia-italy-europe-school-shutdown-share-markets-sport-events-cancelled-latest-update-news?page=with:block-5e6b8f3d8f088d7575592cbd#block-5e6b8f3d8f088d7575592cbd

 

https://odia.ig.com.br/colunas/coluna-esplanada/2020/03/5881947-primeiro-exame-de-bolsonaro-testa-positivo-para-coronavirus.html#foto=1

 

Edited March 13, 2020 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[URMySunshine]

3 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/mar/13/coronavirus-live-updates-uk-us-australia-italy-europe-school-shutdown-share-markets-sport-events-cancelled-latest-update-news?page=with:block-5e6b8f3d8f088d7575592cbd#block-5e6b8f3d8f088d7575592cbd

 

https://odia.ig.com.br/colunas/coluna-esplanada/2020/03/5881947-primeiro-exame-de-bolsonaro-testa-positivo-para-coronavirus.html#foto=1

 

Machine translation of the Brazilian article

 

TRUMP FACTOR

Curious news circulates in the petit Brazilian presidential committee. Much is said of the embarrassment it would be if the Government's Communication Secretary, Fábio Wajngarten, with confirmed infection, had contaminated US President Donald Trump. But the conversation here in Brasília is different. The entire government summit treats it with care so as not to indicate a suspicion: much of the party has been contaminated in Florida, and worse, at the Mar a Lago resort, owned by Trump. Based on this premise, there is a risk that Trump will be infected, and that he will have passed the virus through personal contact.

The fact is that Trump, charged by the American press, is unconvinced and says he doesn't need a test. It is at least strange, for those who have already blamed Europe for the chaos in health surveillance. Trump would not admit that he was the cause of that Friday the 13th of Brazil.

[Sujo]

1 hour ago, JHolmesJr said:

Even the best resident cant do anything when the general population behave like asses.

Travelling on holidays, going out when sick, eating out, wearing mask like it s a Halloween costume,

rubbing eyes even while wearing mask.....the list of dumb activities goes on and on.

 

Even if there are testing kits you cant test 10 minion people all at once and have the results

in a second....there will be people who dont take instructions and they will be the reason this spreads.

 

Look at the way theyre handling it elsewhere.....in Indonesia....theyre acting like they have 0 cases.

Exactly like trump says. Nothing to worry about. Go to work, its under control.

 

Or not.

[URMySunshine]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8109455/Brazilian-president-shook-Donald-Trumps-hand-POSITIVE-coronavirus.html

[StreetCowboy]

The USA should be able to cope with this very easily, thanks to their existing laws.  People can shoot anyone that coughs on them, sneezes on them, stands too close,  shakes hands with them, on the grounds of reasonable self-defence.  
 

If only the rest of us were so lucky!

[URMySunshine]

9 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Wanna bet???

We maybe going to learn in real time a lot about the virus and its infectivity. That said even if Trump gets it he will get world beating treatment procedures based on the best evidence , access to the very best drug combos that are showing promise at the moment and access to respirators and top notch equipment as and when he needs it. He is also a strong old beast so has a good starting point immunologically to beat it. Medical procedures that will be denied to many in the coming onslaught of the virus on the US population. 

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/13/us/coronavirus-deaths-estimate.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage

Edited March 13, 2020 by URMySunshine

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

On the testing front, meanwhile:

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Under heavy fire, Trump administration takes steps to expand coronavirus testing

By Amy Goldstein 

March 13, 2020 at 7:58 p.m. GMT+7

The Trump administration announced a series of steps Friday to boost the availability of coronavirus testing, which has drawn heated criticism from lawmakers of both parties and frustrated Americans who are sick and have been unable to find out whether they are infected.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/under-heavy-fire-trump-administration-takes-steps-to-expand-coronavirus-testing/2020/03/13/f86b481e-6525-11ea-acca-80c22bbee96f_story.html

 

 

And, did a congresswoman get the CDC director to commit to free CV testing for all Americans who need it?  That's what the CDC director said at one point. But whether he really meant it, as the broader article explains, remains to be seen:

 

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‘Not good enough’: How Rep. Katie Porter’s relentless questioning led the CDC chief to commit to free coronavirus testing
...

So she asked Redfield a third time: “Will you commit to invoking your existing authority under 42 CFR 71.30 to provide coronavirus testing for every American regardless of insurance coverage?” “What I was trying to say,” Redfield tried again, “is that CDC is working with HHS now to see how we operationalize that.”

 

Disappointment flushed over Porter’s face, as she said he hoped that response would “weigh heavily” on him. 

 

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/03/13/coronavirus-testing-katie-porter/

 

 

Edited March 13, 2020 by metisdead
Edited as per fair use policy.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

17 minutes ago, URMySunshine said:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/13/us/coronavirus-deaths-estimate.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage

 

 

Quote

 

As many as 200,000 to 1.7 million people could die.

 

And, the calculations based on the C.D.C.’s scenarios suggested, 2.4 million to 21 million people in the U.S. could require hospitalization, potentially crushing the nation’s medical system, which has only about 925,000 staffed hospital beds. 

 

 

I've seen other U.S. medical community estimates of around 500,000 potential deaths... Obviously, it all depends on how the pandemic progresses, and what if anything the feds and the country do in the meantime.

 

Edited March 13, 2020 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[sirineou]

Closing the barn door after the horse has bolted. 

This thing has only caused many americans abroad to return to the US and bring whatever infections they have back home.

In the meantime not enough test kits or ventilators.

In an interview with  a trump administration official , when confronted that we don't have enough ventilators to meet current requirements, she kept saying that steps were being taking  mitigate the spread so that we will not need them, and when confronted with :yes but according to your own government numbers we don't have enough now" she kept falling back to the administration talking points. 

[Isaanbiker]

2 minutes ago, sirineou said:

Closing the barn door after the horse has bolted. 

This thing has only caused many americans abroad to return to the US and bring whatever infections they have back home.

In the meantime not enough test kits or ventilators.

In an interview with  a trump administration official , when confronted that we don't have enough ventilators to meet current requirements, she kept saying that steps were being taking  mitigate the spread so that we will not need them, and when confronted with :yes but according to your own government numbers we don't have enough now" she kept falling back to the administration talking points. 

Chinese Americans who visited China, perhaps?

 

    The shi_e started there, somehow possible how the virus got all over the world.

 

   

[StreetCowboy]

5 minutes ago, sirineou said:

Closing the barn door after the horse has bolted. 

This thing has only caused many americans abroad to return to the US and bring whatever infections they have back home.

In the meantime not enough test kits or ventilators.

In an interview with  a trump administration official , when confronted that we don't have enough ventilators to meet current requirements, she kept saying that steps were being taking  mitigate the spread so that we will not need them, and when confronted with :yes but according to your own government numbers we don't have enough now" she kept falling back to the administration talking points. 

 Everybody’s got to die some time.  Look on this virus as a reduction in death rates afterwards.

 

The way I see it, if every American shot a neighbour or passer-by who coughed or sneezed

a) in up to 4% of some cases, the person was doomed anyway

b) they were reducing the risk of a global pandemic

c) they were exercising their constitutional rights

d) only Americans, immigrants to the USA and visitors would be affected.

 

Desperate times need desperate measures.

[sirineou]

11 minutes ago, StreetCowboy said:

 Everybody’s got to die some time.

Some sooner than others.

Those who ascribe to your theory should volunteer to go first. 

[StreetCowboy]

2 minutes ago, sirineou said:

Some sooner than others.

Those who ascribe to your theory should volunteer to go first. 

I’m on my way already.  I’ve not got a planned date yet, though.  I’m gambling on it not being tonight, because there’s things that I ought to do first, but if it is, c’etait la vie, and my omissions will be other people’s problems.

 

Do you think you will die?

[sirineou]

21 minutes ago, Isaanbiker said:

Chinese Americans who visited China, perhaps?

 

    The shi_e started there, somehow possible how the virus got all over the world.

 

   

China is old news.

The situation now is what the situation is now, and that's what we have to deal with. 

I have family visiting from Europe, they changed their plans and are living today at 5 pm.

I also have family vacationing in Spain, They changed their plans and are coming back tomorrow, and that's without Europe having reciprocated yet, expect to have a tidal wave  coming back from Europe if they do/

Great way to exchange germs between countries. 

A coordinated effort between Europe and the US would had being the way to go IMO.

[CGW]

10 minutes ago, sirineou said:

Some sooner than others.

Those who ascribe to your theory should volunteer to go first. 

You make your own luck in life, I have long taken responsibility for my own health, not in the least bit worried ????

Folks in the past have laughed at me, its like people have laughed at the "preppers" who's laughing at them now? 

[NCC1701A]

TRUMP DECLARES NATIONAL STATE OF EMERGENCY

 

https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-declare-national-emergency-speed-151931686.html

[JHolmesJr]

1 hour ago, URMySunshine said:

BREAKING - Brazilian President tests positive. 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/mar/13/coronavirus-live-updates-uk-us-australia-italy-europe-school-shutdown-share-markets-sport-events-cancelled-latest-update-news

 

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-brazil-bolsonaro/brazils-bolsonaro-says-coronavirus-is-not-all-the-media-makes-it-out-to-be-idUSKBN20X24P

 

Awwww Guardian just reported...so disappointing for you.....his test was negative.....stop making

up nonsense and maybe self quarantine yourself...

Edited March 13, 2020 by JHolmesJr

[sirineou]

10 minutes ago, CGW said:

You make your own luck in life, I have long taken responsibility for my own health, not in the least bit worried ????

Folks in the past have laughed at me, its like people have laughed at the "preppers" who's laughing at them now? 

I also believe in making my own luck and part of it trying to elect  a government responsive to my and my family's needs. 

[CGW]

3 minutes ago, sirineou said:

I also believe in making my own luck and part of it trying to elect  a government responsive to my and my family's needs. 

Good luck with that dream, have you not noticed something?

 

[URMySunshine]

11 minutes ago, JHolmesJr said:

 

Awwww Guardian just reported...so disappointing for you.....his test was negative.....stop making

up nonsense and maybe self quarantine yourself...

I'm reporting the Guardian as it happens without comment you are adding the spin. Besides I wouldn't believe a word either of those crooks said since you ask !

[sirineou]

2 minutes ago, CGW said:

Good luck with that dream, have you not noticed something?

 

Still "trying,  my friend. I am not very optimistic 

 but just like that old ant I try to move that rubber tree plant, 

'Cause I have high hopes, 

 

[StreetCowboy]

10 minutes ago, CGW said:

Good luck with that dream, have you not noticed something?

 

Back in the day, a high proportion of Americans believed in democracy.  I suppose times change, people's views change.  I guess they believed that the government that they elected would work to their benefit.

 

I'm still looking for a better alternative.  

 

SC