Popular Post EricTh Posted March 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Isaanbiker said: And a lot of VIP's on Chinese and Thai side. The drug is already in use since 2014. Why does China act like they developed it? A Japanese anti-viral drug appears to be effective in treating coronavirus patients, Chinese medical officials have found. If it is really effective, why didn't China use it to prevent 3000 deaths in the last 2.5 months? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rabas Posted March 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, EricTh said: I read that Thailand has some antiviral drugs which treated some Covid patients many weeks back and it cured them. I vaguely remember that it was related to Favipxx. As for the other comments in this thread, a patient don't take only one tablet, most probably they take a course like 14 days until all the virus are inactivated in the body. No, that was 2 HIV drugs (often used together) lopinavir + ritonavir and the flu drug Tamiflu (generic oseltamivir ) But there are many drug combinations under investigation, not just the one in the OP. Edited March 18, 2020 by rabas 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricTh Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 34 minutes ago, ChouDoufu said: What about face-masks, can you still find it in China? It is difficult to find N95 mask in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sungod Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Arkady said: In the government's Emergency Operations Department best case scenario 400,000 people will be infected. So with 200,000 tablets of Favipiravir they will get half a tab each. Global figures show 80% of people who get infected only show mild symptoms and recover at home. For many others treating the underlying issues is effective. Not down playing a pandemic but will they all need the drug? Lets not feed the panic...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traubert Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 48 minutes ago, Fex Bluse said: And Western media are too focused on breaking a story first to do ant research. The Chinese use all our flaws against us with precision. They are winning the propaganda war against us. Good, ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Seems to be moderately effective in treating the infection. Good to have, but not a cure by a long shot. Will just shorten the recovery time and lessen the probability of developing ARDS a bit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChouDoufu Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 minute ago, EricTh said: What about face-masks, can you still find it in China? It is difficult to find N95 mask in Thailand. plenty of paper/cloth supply. don't know about n95. honestly haven't been looking. i don't have the virus, nor am i a doctor. i just have the paper masks for street theater. makes the locals "feel" safe. they did re-purpose some of the cellphone factories with clean rooms to manufacture masks, but i think those were all directed to wuhan or to health centers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChouDoufu Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 9 minutes ago, EricTh said: If it is really effective, why didn't China use it to prevent 3000 deaths in the last 2.5 months? i assume it took some time to complete the study. perhaps they weren't immediately aware that particular drug by itself or in combination with others would be an effective treatment. perhaps they weren't ready to use it on patients without some sort of clinical trial. the bulk of the deaths in wuhan may have occurred before they were ready to authorize use. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Arkady said: In the government's Emergency Operations Department best case scenario 400,000 people will be infected. So with 200,000 tablets of Favipiravir they will get half a tab each. Best case scenario over 12 months ! Is the supply a one off? Worse may happen but why presume negativity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traubert Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 47 minutes ago, Dumbastheycome said: Best case scenario over 12 months ! Is the supply a one off? Worse may happen but why presume negativity? Because it's the new rock'n'roll, It doesnt matter what happens, their own script is already written. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParkerN Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Traubert said: Because it's the new rock'n'roll, It doesnt matter what happens, their own script is already written. Think about this. Human beings learn from experience. So learn. Think back. When was the last time the Thai government had a outstanding success - with anything. Still feel confident or running for the hills? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Christmas13 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 3 hours ago, Admiral Hornblower said: With a "government" estimate of (eventually) 400,000 virus patients, that ain't a lot of pills! Who believes anything what that i***T says 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkfish Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Seems it was only tested on 340 patients? Quote Zhang Xinmin, an official at China’s science and technology ministry, said favipiravir, developed by a subsidiary of Fujifilm, had produced encouraging outcomes in clinical trials in Wuhan and Shenzhen involving 340 patients. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traubert Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 hour ago, ParkerN said: Think about this. Human beings learn from experience. So learn. Think back. When was the last time the Thai government had a outstanding success - with anything. Still feel confident or running for the hills? Neither, nobody I know has got it, nobody you know has got it, it's just a lot of noise about nothing. Its the flu. \ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lingba Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 https://nypost.com/2020/03/18/japanese-flu-drug-clearly-effective-in-treating-coronavirus-officials-say/?fbclid=IwAR1xKFEk7yD7WDX3O7Om9k-rbGcfSHXge7BRlHa8qglt-FQZL1nx9pFCuL8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkkcanuck8 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 7 hours ago, steven100 said: am i missing something here .... there is currently NO vaccine for COVID-19. Favipiravir will be useless .... ? The presumption is these are general antiviral medicines which theoretically could help (not cure, not immunize). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 This drug only works on people really not too badly infected with the illness - sort of mild symptoms. If you are heavily infected it is pretty useless. Since most people will not present themselves until later in the infection, those tablets will now be used only for the hi-so people getting the snivels ! And as another poster says with 400,000 potential infected that 200k is not enough. If the tablets - like HIV - have to be taken over a period of time - even if only for say a week - that 200k now becomes enough for 20,000 for 10 days. If 200,000 get it, they will have enough treatment for 1 day - if 400,000 then they either break the tablet in half or fight over it and then die tomorrow ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 A post with an off topic video and a related troll post has been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PETERTHEEATER Posted March 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 19, 2020 Favipirivir drug imported from China is reported as effective against foot and mouth disease so perhaps it's for government issue. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wensiensheng Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 10 hours ago, Arkady said: In the government's Emergency Operations Department best case scenario 400,000 people will be infected. So with 200,000 tablets of Favipiravir they will get half a tab each. Presumably the drug will be used on severe cases. The 400,000 figure seems to be total cases, most of which may not be severe. question is, howdid they come up with the 400k figure and is it likely to be accurate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuwadeeS Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 All crazy plans. Remember, the government said it will not accept, rip off prices. Guess what. Regular paper masks as in hospital used are sold for 100 Baht for 5 pieces. Production price is approx. 0.5 Baht. Crazy!!!! Seen by myself in Happyland Bangkapi. All the same price level. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wensiensheng Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 9 hours ago, EricTh said: If it is really effective, why didn't China use it to prevent 3000 deaths in the last 2.5 months? I’m sure that they did use it, perhaps not in the early days. And by various accounts, it has been effective in a number of cases. But that isn’t to say that it’s a 100% fool proof “cure”. If it were, there would be no deaths anywhere. But that doesn’t mean that it can’t help in some cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPKANKAN Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 11 hours ago, Admiral Hornblower said: With a "government" estimate of (eventually) 400,000 virus patients, that ain't a lot of pills! And of course not for 'dirty fffing ferrangs!!!' ???????????????????????????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 A post with potentially fake news and a sensible response has been deleted. Please don't post unsubstantiated "news" in these threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimHuaHin Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 " The usual dosage of favipiravir for adults is 1600 mg orally twice daily for 1 day followed by 600 mg orally twice daily for 4 days. The total administration period should be 5 days. " https://www.cdc.gov.tw/File/Get/ht8jUiB_MI-aKnlwstwzvw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
car720 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 and don't forget the Chinese will be selling fakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bundooman Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Is the minister saying that one tablet per person is sufficient to eradicate the virus? Really? All my life, I have needed a course of tablets to eradicate some illness or other. Yet China has already established a kind of one tablet vaccine? Does the Chinese population know this? Have they all had it? Has Covid been eradicated in China? Wow! We are all saved! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
World wide traveller Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 11 hours ago, emptypockets said: Great business plan. Cause a problem and then sell the solution. Been quite a few movies made based on this premise. Kingsman -The Golden Circle comes to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thurien Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 12 hours ago, DaRoadrunner said: Anutin's strong point is obviously not mathematics. We have a pandemic and this is the best man they could find for the job? but his company was involved in building Suvarnabhumi AP... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAINT THOMAS Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 11 hours ago, emptypockets said: Great business plan. Cause a problem and then sell the solution. Been quite a few movies made based on this premise. Kingsman -The Golden Circle comes to mind. The Book is called The Eyes of Darkness by Dean Koontz 1981 maybe they will make that into a Movie? ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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