Automatic coronavirus crisis extentions for Retirees?

[MrMuddle]

There must be many Retirees here in the same situation as me.
I've been here many years, have left the required 800,000 in the Bank untouched, for all of that time, yet at the moment I'm still expected to put my health in grave danger, by being forced to attend my local Immigration office in person, while the Coronavirus is around.

Surely it is not beyond Thai Immigration to post out an emergency 3 month extension to folks like me? It's obvious there is little risk involved, if they check my records, and I can self isolate at home, and stay out of danger.

Is that really too much to ask, in these worrying times?

 

[Orton Rd]

They need all those photocopies though

[bkk6060]

It would makes sense especially since some in the government believe we are the source of the problem.

But giving us a reprieve in a twisted way would not allow them to save face.

So, mask and glove up. spray with sanitizer after they hand you the number card and hold your breath for as long as you can when you go.

[sirocco]

hello, 

 

Why are you sick, unable to walk, move or get out of your house?
If this is the case, a certificate from a doctor proving your general condition which is disabling and dangerous for those around you will be drawn up.

[Martyp]

As long as the Immigration employees are willing to go to work they are going to expect you to come in to comply with Immigration requirements. 

[Bramley]

1 hour ago, Martyp said:

As long as the Immigration employees are willing to go to work they are going to expect you to come in to comply with Immigration requirements. 

Would be an ideal time to convert to an online/mobile system like the TM47 and TM30, both of which (finally) work well.

[OJAS]

Well, for those retirees with original non-OA visas, local immigration officers will, of course, need to check with the utmost care and attention that the relatively new 400k/40k mandatory health insurance requirement has been fully and properly complied with - much good that that would do in the coronavirus context in practice!

Edited March 23, 2020 by OJAS

[Martyp]

34 minutes ago, Bramley said:

Would be an ideal time to convert to an online/mobile system like the TM47 and TM30, both of which (finally) work well.

Certainly the epidemic is a good use of doing this online but only yesterday I saw yet another thread about the online system not working for someone. 

[LivinLOS]

2 hours ago, sirocco said:

hello, 

 

Why are you sick, unable to walk, move or get out of your house?
If this is the case, a certificate from a doctor proving your general condition which is disabling and dangerous for those around you will be drawn up.

The elderly are especially vulnerable and have been told to self isolate as a precautionary measure. 

[sirocco]

hello, post 9,

I agree with you, but do we have to confine them, when it is these same old people who circulate in the streets (as I have just seen in my moment in my street) who are seated in restaurants, cafes, walking on the beach or basking in the sun.
Well, yes, they are perfectly healthy and young for leisure, but to wait in administrative services, they are old and sick.

 

[cmarshall]

1 hour ago, Bramley said:

Would be an ideal time to convert to an online/mobile system like the TM47 and TM30, both of which (finally) work well.

Too open to abuse.

[pmarlin]

That would be nice, Just extended mine last Thursday and put on the face mask and went. Got there Uthai Thani IO had two officers working and no other customers so I was only there less than 30 minutes. Toke off the mask twice. One for the normal picture and again for the bio-metric picture. Also had to do the full finger scan for both hands on a reader that I doubt has ever been cleaned,Wife had hand alcohol spray so that wasn't a big deal.  But when I walked in both officers put on their mask.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

tool off 

[CraigInBangkok]

3 hours ago, Martyp said:

Certainly the epidemic is a good use of doing this online but only yesterday I saw yet another thread about the online system not working for someone. 

Yeah I don't expect this to happen ... they can't even track within their own departments ... Get a new passport and you can't do 90day reporting online anymore unless you leave the country as border immigration and immigration offices don't seem to be on the same servers.

[Toany]

7 hours ago, sirocco said:

hello, 

 

Why are you sick, unable to walk, move or get out of your house?
If this is the case, a certificate from a doctor proving your general condition which is disabling and dangerous for those around you will be drawn up.

He is not sick.

That is why he does not want to go to an immigration office like Chaengwattana and spend all day there in confined conditions where social distancing is not possible.  Immigration offices are a petri dish to catch Covod19.

He is very likely to come away sick.

Did you not read what he wrote

 

[fittobethaied]

The whole point of coming into the office versus making it easier by internet is so they can have a captive audience with you and find something wrong so that they can extract money from your back pocket. It's all about them and they could care less about your convenience. Once you are there face to face they can size up your degree of ignorance, naivety, gullibility and desperation. They are masters at preying on the weak in the herd!

[Neeranam]

How old is the OP?

[Toany]

The Government continues to try and tie all infection to contact with a foreigner.  By forcing them to all gather in an immigration office , often for a whole day, They can ensure that all foreigners are infected.  They can then continue to blame all infections of the foreigner.

[justin case]

8 hours ago, sirocco said:

hello, 

 

Why are you sick, unable to walk, move or get out of your house?
If this is the case, a certificate from a doctor proving your general condition which is disabling and dangerous for those around you will be drawn up.

what doctor does home visits in Thailand ?lol

 

in my home country, every doctor for a small fee

[NightSky]

To the OP..

 

remember where you are...

 

This is Thailand

 

Your suggestion is far too logical and compassionate for Thailand government to accept.

 

Safety last, money first!

Edited March 23, 2020 by NightSky

[nickmondo]

8 hours ago, sirocco said:

hello, 

 

Why are you sick, unable to walk, move or get out of your house?
If this is the case, a certificate from a doctor proving your general condition which is disabling and dangerous for those around you will be drawn up.

you know what mate.

you really are a p@@@@

the op is most likely over 70 or have underlying conditions.

i dont know where you were dragged up, but in the UK the Government are advising people in the risk categories to stay isolated for 3 months!!!

they really do walk amongst us!!!!!!!!!!

[sirocco]

Dear Toany,
I read and understood his message very well.
This person requests to be exempted from a trip to immigration, to extend his retirement, highlighting his advanced age. (it is retirement in question and not 90 days, we agree, because under these conditions, he is not obliged to travel))
Hence my question if he had health problems, in which case he could have a waiver or an arrangement.
I have been doing immigration offices in Hua Hin for over 10 years, and I haven't spent a day waiting, at most 2 hours.
And yet the employees are friendly. I could strive to stay longer.
As the worker no longer shows up, he must have realized his blunder.

[sirocco]

I never said that the doctor came to his home, he can very well be transported by taxi or by ambulance, like my neighbor thai who cannot move.
In my country, we also pay the doctor who comes home.

 

If you allow it (or not) I will finish my masks.

[Krataiboy]

5 hours ago, sirocco said:

hello, post 9,

I agree with you, but do we have to confine them, when it is these same old people who circulate in the streets (as I have just seen in my moment in my street) who are seated in restaurants, cafes, walking on the beach or basking in the sun.
Well, yes, they are perfectly healthy and young for leisure, but to wait in administrative services, they are old and sick.

 

Can you really not see the health risk difference between sitting in a crowded immigration office, possibly for hours on end, and sunbathing on a quiet beach or taking a solitary stroll along the prom? 

 

Old folk need exercise MORE than do the young, who are naturally fit and strong. And most of us are not so senile that we are unable to find a sensible place to take it. 

 

 

[Russell17au]

The OP has himself stated that it is for a 30 day extension. It is not a 90 day report or the lodgement of a TM30 and all extensions require the application to be made in person so that his photo and fingerprints can be taken. For an extension OP you are required to attend at the office. Anyone who thinks that they can apply for any visa in any country in the world without attending at the office at some stage is living in a dreamworld or they are just lazy. You cannot do biometrics online.

[Chrysaora]

10 hours ago, bkk6060 said:

hold your breath for as long as you can when you go.

Would that not result in many foreigners passing out on top of each other?

 

[Mango Bob]

Guess what is going to happen when the first IO get the virus.

[Brer]

You would think the major priority would be to stop people traveling around unnecessarily.

Farangs represent a small percentage of the resident population now, obviously we have not been forgotten as our current health minister recalls there are many dirty, shabby farangs in the country.

Commonsense I believe if we are indeed the source of this Chinese virus would be to stop unnecessary trips by us and just allow us to travel to buy food and soap and postpone trips to immigration for 90 day reports and yearly extensions.

[evadgib]

On 3/23/2020 at 7:59 AM, Martyp said:

As long as the Immigration employees are willing to go to work they are going to expect you to come in to comply with Immigration requirements. 

It would make their own lives considerably easier if PR were granted to all long term residents after say 3 trouble-free years in the Kingdom on the same (Married, Ret'd, Other?) extn.

[mikebell]

On 3/23/2020 at 10:34 AM, cmarshall said:

Too open to abuse.

So's the existing system - ask any agent/IO.

[Tropicalevo]

On 3/23/2020 at 3:08 PM, fittobethaied said:

The whole point of coming into the office versus making it easier by internet is so they can have a captive audience with you and find something wrong so that they can extract money from your back pocket. It's all about them and they could care less about your convenience. Once you are there face to face they can size up your degree of ignorance, naivety, gullibility and desperation. They are masters at preying on the weak in the herd!

I have not found this to be the case at all. Yes, we sometimes have to jump through hoops.

I have lived in Thailand for the last 20 years and only once was I asked for a 'priority' fee. It was for my first visa extension. I politely declined, got up and walked out.

IO asked where I was going.

To a visa agent I said.

But they are more expensive than me was his retort.

Yes, said I. But that fee is legal.

I have not had any issues with immigration officers since.

To put this in perspective, I run a small business and have had a work permit for the last 18 years. I do not have a retirement visa and I stopped the border bounces many years ago, once I had enough employees.

I guess that every immigration office is different. I use the one in Samui

Edited March 24, 2020 by Tropicalevo