I had a short drive along Jomtien Beach yesterday and the Thais seem to be taking the 'stay at home' message seriously. On the weekend it's normally packed out down there, but yesterday there was hardly anybody, at least down the Wat Bun/Chaiyapruek end where I happened to be. I've got to admit, I was surprised.

 

 

2 minutes ago, GordyS said:

Have you ever been in a Thai hospital?

There are loads of people on oxygen and I've seen people in a real bad way on various occasions, gasping for air.

The doctor's word is never questioned either.

If a doctor tells a Thai person something then that is gospel

Yep, my wife of 10 years works at Bangkok hospital in Khon Kean.

10 minutes ago, Eibot said:

You assume PUI are hospitalized? Why? 

 

Because the DDC daily reports on COVID break down exactly many many PUI are hospitalized vs the much smaller number supposedly being monitored outside of hospitals.

 

The hospitalized numbers of PUIs I quote are coming exactly from the DDC's daily reports.

 

As of yesterday's report on patients under investigation:

--7614 hospitalized

--2200 monitored outside of hospitals

--7326 treated and released

 

https://ddc.moph.go.th/viralpneumonia/file/situation/situation-no85-280363.pdf

 

 

3 minutes ago, Elzear said:

Does anyone have numbers for Myanmar, Laos and Cambodia ? If climate is a factor, then those countries are not affected at all. 

Don't test don't tell

2 minutes ago, Eibot said:

Yep, my wife of 10 years works at Bangkok hospital in Khon Kean.

Well you should know better then

56 minutes ago, jmccarty said:

Not exponential even slightly! Something is being done right.

Yes numbers and information management is excellent!Did you know that covid 19 numbers have a 2 week incubation period in Thailand?

3 minutes ago, GordyS said:

It doesn't work like that over here

Thailand has one of the highest social media % of the world. Ever been on twitter? I bet you don't know about the commotion about he who cannot be named in Germany. 

 

Thais in general get their news from Social media. Hence Thailand started testing when a famous actor announced he had Covid-19 on social media. 

16 minutes ago, Yinn said:

Where the village?

Very close to Chiang Mai

 

11 minutes ago, GordyS said:

Why would it be on social media? 

If you looked at how quickly things get spread on Twitter and Facebook and how  scathing Thais can be on those platforms, I am sure we would hear of something. Even if the Government tried to shut it down, it would leak somewhere. Last night they made a really big stuff up of the 5,000 baht payment scheme (the server went down) and within moments it was trending on Twitter (like a 100,000 tweets in 30 minutes and people were angry). 

Edited March 29, 20206 yr by totally thaied up

Does anybody think Thailand is going to give us the real numbers I don’t think so T I T

1 hour ago, Eibot said:

You can only see.the effects.of social distancing (not much is happening in Thailand) in about 14 days due to the incubation period.

Does that include the 2 week incubation period for the numbers?

3 minutes ago, GordyS said:

Well you should know better then

I do, that's why I get so tired of people here panicking rallying each other up for nothing. 

Reflecting today's update:

 

 

https://ddc.moph.go.th/viralpneumonia/eng/index.php

 

Edited March 29, 20206 yr by TallGuyJohninBKK

21 minutes ago, totally thaied up said:

Our market in the village is packed.

 

I drove past it yesterday afternoon in my car when I went to an ATM to get some cash. People are everywhere, the market vendors were all cooking fish  and Moo Ping and it was just another typical day out as far as I could see.

 

I have not left my house for seven days and I needed some cash for our delivery drivers. My family has taken it seriously but it seems in our area, no one else has. I am feeling like a fool sitting at home doing what they say is the right thing when everyone else in our area does not seem to give a <deleted>.

 

Seems to me if this virus is wide spread or going to be wide spread, herd immunity is the way they are going about it because no one gives a stuff in my village. If people suddenly get sick in my area, I won't feel sorry at all as for at this moment, it is still free for all and those of us that are following what the Government is asking, are feeling pretty silly at the moment.

 

The streets may be empty, the Shopping Malls closed but back to the villages everyone had gone home to, life just goes on like normal. The impact this must be having to the economy must be huge and if the Government has shut things down for 30 days, there must be some reasoning to it. Either the figures do not stack up or we are being left in dark as the costs of this is just too big/high to make any sense of it.

 

I am really at a loss what to say. A News Paper article from a paper we cannot mention on here said today that Thai people are not taking social distancing seriously. What is to be done? I don't know but it certainly is not making any sense to me at this time.

Better to feel like a fool and be the last man standing when all around you are acting like much bigger fools and will become victims.  We are Hunkered Down and will continue to be so until things get a lot better in at least a months time.  Trying to understand Thai's is like continually smashing your head against a brick wall; don't do it.... unless the wall was built by Thai builders !

7 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Because the DDC daily reports on COVID break down exactly many many PUI are hospitalized vs the much smaller number supposedly being monitored outside of hospitals.

 

The hospitalized numbers of PUIs I quote are coming exactly from the DDC's daily reports.

 

As of yesterday's report on patients under investigation:

--7614 hospitalized

--2200 monitored outside of hospitals

--7326 treated and released

 

https://ddc.moph.go.th/viralpneumonia/file/situation/situation-no85-280363.pdf

 

 

Apologies then. The ICU beds don't to seem affected by this. I wonder was the definition is of "hospitalized"

As there is a 14 day incubation period the new cases we are seeing were probably infected before the social distancing measures were put in place.
I would expect an increase everyday for at least the next 10 days.

2 minutes ago, Eibot said:

I do, that's why I get so tired of people here panicking rallying each other up for nothing. 

It’s not for nothing. It’s to help others understand the reality and save lives. 
 

Just now, monkfish said:

As there is a 14 day incubation period the new cases we are seeing were probably infected before the social distancing measures were put in place.
I would expect an increase everyday for at least the next 10 days.

Why was there a stop in cases between 13/01 and the beginning of March?

Just now, Kadilo said:

It’s not for nothing. It’s to help others understand the reality and save lives. 
 

Following the rules is helping each other out. panicking and throwing out baseless complaints about Thai government/measures and how bad it's going to be in two weeks, is not going to save lives. Quite the opposite.

32 minutes ago, OneeyedJohn said:

they are more interesting than some of the things you come up with.

 

2 minutes ago, Eibot said:

Following the rules is helping each other out. panicking and throwing out baseless complaints about Thai government/measures and how bad it's going to be in two weeks, is not going to save lives. Quite the opposite.

Arrogance and complacency is what will kill most by not following the guidelines and thinking they know best. 

Edited March 29, 20206 yr by Kadilo

2 minutes ago, Eibot said:

Apologies then. The ICU beds don't to seem affected by this. I wonder was the definition is of "hospitalized"

Inpatient with COVID type symptoms in a govt or private hospital...

 

There's never been any breakdown of ICU bed space/use made public that I'm aware of...other than the daily DDC report of CONFIRMED cases and the number of those considered serious/critical, which currently stands at 19.

 

But what the above chart also shows is that there are currently hospitalized more than 1150 CONFIRMED cases in Thai govt and private hospitals right now... people who need special care and infection control measures to avoid spreading the virus to other patients and medical staff.

 

And not that every COVID patient gets put into a negative air pressure room, but one of the Thai infectious disease doctors in a news report here recently estimated that in all of Thailand, there are only about 100 negative pressure hospital rooms period.

 

 

3 minutes ago, Eibot said:

Why was there a stop in cases between 13/01 and the beginning of March?

Because it will take at least 14 days for the social distancing measures to take effect.

Just now, Kadilo said:

Arrogance and complacent is what will kill most. 

There is a fine line between screaming we will be the next Italy and being complacent and do whatever you want. 

16 minutes ago, Eibot said:

Yep, my wife of 10 years works at Bangkok hospital in Khon Kean.

I suspect he was referring to government hospitals. They are worlds away from bangkok hospital.

Given how many people have fled Bangkok and quiet the streets are I would not be surprised if Bangkok is cleared of the virus before the outlying provinces. Perhaps they will start checking and preventing people from returning there for a while.

 

Thailand in general is not a nation that prizes independent thought and much more so in Issan. Changing decades of ingrained behavior for a pesky virus that more conveniently can be blamed on superstition or spurious allegations is unlikely. I do not see the communal eating and lack of adherence to hand washing or mask wearing changing there unless forced by the police and military which I also don't see happening unless the numbers really move up.

THat number is out of date...covid has already more than doubled...do the math 5 days incubation X people infected...it's WAY higher than that!!!  Covid is extremely virulent and resistant. 

Let the Thai workers know they if they have lost income as a result of covid-19 then they are eligible to apply for Baht 5,000 per month for 3 months from the Thai Gov.

 

They need to complete the form at

 

https://www.xn--12cl1ck0bl6hdu9iyb9bp.com/

 

2 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Inpatient with COVID type symptoms in a govt or private hospital...

 

There's never been any breakdown of ICU bed space/use made public that I'm aware of...other than the daily DDC report of CONFIRMED cases and the number of those considered serious/critical, which currently stands at 19.

 

But what the above chart also shows is that there are currently hospitalized more than 1150 CONFIRMED cases in Thai govt and private hospitals right now... people who need special care and infection control measures to avoid spreading the virus to other patients and medical staff.

 

And not that every COVID patient gets put into a negative air pressure room, but one of the Thai infectious disease doctors in a news report here recently estimated that in all of Thailand, there are only about 100 negative pressure hospital rooms period.

 

 

Interesting. As far as I know, Bangkok hospital in Khon Kean is not showing any larger influxes than normal around this period. They do have 5 Covid-19 cases in the hospital. 

1 hour ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Good news???

 

I think 143 new cases is the highest single day increase since this started, and if not THE highest, it's right up there among the highest.

 

And the numbers probably would be much much higher if the government's CV testing were widespread and easy to obtain, which it's not.

 

There nothing in this that strikes me as good news.

 

Right now, there's almost 7500 people admitted as inpatients in Thai hospitals with COVID type symptoms, and most of those apparently are still waiting for confirming tests. It's a much bigger problem than just 143 reported new cases in a day.

 

 

correct - if they don't test the nearly 10,000 PUI then no report of confirmed CV infection - just look at them for days hoping they will recover then send them home, so how many confirmed cases - only those tested and reported

1 minute ago, Eibot said:

Interesting. As far as I know, Bangkok hospital in Khon Kean is not showing any larger influxes than normal around this period. They do have 5 Covid-19 cases in the hospital. 

Any inside information on the government hospital in kk?