FOR YOUR SAFETY: Key statistics, advice from doctors on Covid-19

[dinsdale]

15 minutes ago, rvaviator said:

You should also compare the size ... Very very easy to control people in Singapore. One thing they do like in Singapore is total control and organization, and working hard ... When they want to relax and have some fun .. then go to Malaysia and Thailand ... ???? .....  As one Singaporean said to me .... Singapore is just for working and making money ..  ???? ....  

Difference is Singapore lots of testing Thailand little testing. All things are not equal.

[emptypockets]

28 minutes ago, mike787 said:

* NO BACTERICIDE OR ANTIBIOTIC SERVES. The virus is not a living organism like bacteria; antibodies cannot kill what is not alive.

* NEVER shake used or unused clothing, sheets or cloth. While it is glued to a porous surface, it is very inert and disintegrates only:
- between 3 hours (fabric and porous),
- 4 hours (copper and wood)
- 24 hours (cardboard),
- 42 hours (metal) and
- 72 hours (plastic).

But if you shake it or use a feather duster, the virus molecules float in the air for up to 3 hours, and can lodge in your nose.

* The virus molecules remain very stable in external cold, or artificial as air conditioners in houses and cars. They also need moisture to stay stable, and especially darkness. Therefore, dehumidified, dry, warm and bright environments will degrade it faster.

* UV LIGHT on any object that may contain it breaks down the virus protein. For example, to disinfect and reuse a mask is perfect. Be careful, it also breaks down collagen (which is protein) in the skin.

* The virus CANNOT go through healthy skin.
* Vinegar is NOT useful because it does not break down the protective layer of fat.
* NO SPIRITS, NOR VODKA, serve. The strongest vodka is 40% alcohol, and you need 65%.
* LISTERINE IF IT SERVES! It is 65% alcohol.
* The more confined the space, the more concentration of the virus there can be. The more open or naturally ventilated, the less.

* You have to wash your hands before and after touching mucosa, food, locks, knobs, switches, remote control, cell phone, watches, computers, desks, TV, etc. And when using the bathroom.

* You have to HUMIDIFY HANDS DRY from so much washing them, because the molecules can hide in the micro cracks. The thicker the moisturizer, the better.

* Also keep your NAILS SHORT so that the virus does not hide there.

-JOHNS HOPKINS HOSPITAL

Why did you feel the need to repeat another members post? In case we missed it the first time?

[Baggy]

1 hour ago, PaDavid said:

Following the comparisons being made with Singapore I did some research. Singapore has a population of 5.8 million, Thailand 80 million, so about 13 times greater. Yesterday Singapore had 35 new cases, Thailand 127. Singapore has reported 3 deaths, Thailand 7. Based on these statistics, it would appear that proportionally it’s safer in Thailand

And of course the Thailand figures are correct, ha ha !
some weeks ago the Prime Minister stated, “not a problem, no worry,” where is he now, or does he still believe his own lies?

[emptypockets]

21 minutes ago, rvaviator said:

You should also compare the size ... Very very easy to control people in Singapore. One thing they do like in Singapore is total control and organization, and working hard ... When they want to relax and have some fun .. then go to Malaysia and Thailand ... ???? .....  As one Singaporean said to me .... Singapore is just for working and making money ..  ???? ....  

More likely to die of boredom in Singapore than from the virus.

[Brunolem]

44 minutes ago, mike787 said:

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* The virus molecules remain very stable in external cold, or artificial as air conditioners in houses and cars. They also need moisture to stay stable, and especially darkness. 

Does this mean that we can keep some (virus) in the fridge?

[Caldera]

The points he makes range from common sense all the way to ludicrous. I don't buy the exact percentages he's giving and this makes me trust him less - as a matter of fact, nobody knows yet, not even a professor from Thailand, the undisputed hub of medical advances.

[onlycw]

While I appeciate the unusually high volume of information, I'd like the vital statistics and info on pre-existing illnesses of those, who died.

 

The flu has killed 100-fold more, one keeps eading. We need FACTS to asses the situation! 

[dslocum]

7 hours ago, RJRS1301 said:

Where does he come up with 4-14% motality figure?

 

69.3% of statistics are made up on the spot.

[raccos21]

[wazzupnow]

7 hours ago, rasmus5150 said:

With all these figures, I wonder if he used to work for TAT.

 

Now people will start hoarding for micro pore tape, and Korean summer hats with these giant sun visors.

 

ooh how cute

[marko kok prong]

7 hours ago, rasmus5150 said:

With all these figures, I wonder if he used to work for TAT.

 

Now people will start hoarding for micro pore tape, and Korean summer hats with these giant sun visors.

 

I am getting my Darth vader souvenir helmet out of storage.

[30la]

With all the experts in this country and around the world, it's really strange that Covid still manages to survive ...

[trainman34014]

All this and the average Thai brain around our way can't figure out that 10+10=20 !

[natway09]

Singapore is not really a good model, 

It is a small island state not a country which is a lot easier to contain & control...

even they said they can disinfect  all habitated areas in 4 days 

Something interesting  came out of the above as he says if feeling ill do NOT go to a hospital.

Have Bangkok set up proper field places where you can go.?

Some  of you may have seen the Italian Health Minister say that they made this mistake which cost lives. Keep most of the hospitals clear of the virus & use special field hospitals.

I suggested Challenger at Muang Thong Thani would be a good place

[bluesofa]

5 hours ago, Shocked said:

A doctor in NY working with the infected people says. "Don't touch your face". Make sure you hands are cleaned with a disinfectant before you touch your face. He says that is the main reason for the spreading 

Agree absolutely about that.

The numbers of people I've seen wearing masks and fiddling with them in-between touching other surfaces which we have been told can harbour the virus for up to 72 hours. One example being plastic and stainless steel according to recent research.

 

[RJRS1301]

5 minutes ago, bluesofa said:

Agree absolutely about that.

The numbers of people I've seen wearing masks and fiddling with them in-between touching other surfaces which we have been told can harbour the virus for up to 72 hours. One example being plastic and stainless steel according to recent research.

 

Door knobs, hand rails on staircases and escalors, lift buttons. 

 

[hottrader77]

8 hours ago, Chazar said:

so how  many Thais  do you see doing this. its  more  like the okey cokey , up down up down food  in  up  down up  down food  in,

 

 

If you’re using any kind of mask, you need to first make sure it doesn’t become one more contamination zone. Wilson emphasized that you need to wash your hands before you put a mask on, before you take it off and after you take it off.

who is going to sit with someone for 10 hours ???

[bluesofa]

2 minutes ago, hottrader77 said:

who is going to sit with someone for 10 hours ???

Three women talking.

No one wants to be the first to leave, in case the remaining two talk about her.

[Tropposurfer]

Given that a percentage of infected people will show no symptoms at all for days to weeks yet be contagious I would suggest that everyone assume they are infected and wear masks.

 

[briansbiology]

OMG those stats mean absolutely nothing...what a bunch of baloney. pulled out of their assess

[JesseLeeOver]

My goodness, what a sorry group of farangs.????

[Monomial]

3 hours ago, kuzmabruk said:

why not listen to a frontline specialist at one of the best hospitals in the world and the best hospital in New York.  For a change listen to highly Educated people who give knowledgeable advice.   THIS IS IMPORTANT 
 

there is a video link at the bottom of this post. 
 

The first 20 minutes of this video are really important to watch and understand how to protect yourself from Covid19 but the whole video is worth your time.

 

The speaker in this one hour video is Dr. David Price (who is a Fellow in Medicine) of Weill Cornell Medicine in New York.

 

Weill Cornell Medicine is one of the largest and most comprehensive academic medical centers in the nation — is ranked New York's No. 1 hospital for the 17th consecutive year, and No. 8 in the United States, according to the U.S. News and World Report.

 

fellow is a physician who has completed their residency and elects to complete further training in a specialty. The chooses to pursue additional training, the fellowship is optional and is not required to practice medicine, but is necessary for training in a subspecialty.

 

This guy is worth listening to.

 

https://vimeo.com/399733860

 

 

 

Interesting guy but he talks -SO-SLOW- and goes on for an hour.  Let me know when there is a Youtube version that I can speed up by 2x. I might be able to listen then. Vimeo sucks.

[transam]

18 minutes ago, JesseLeeOver said:

My goodness, what a sorry group of farangs.????

Change bars..............????

[from the home of CC]

11 hours ago, Chazar said:

Ill stick with a  real countries rules where they have it  under control ....... Singapore

   
     We urge Singaporeans to remain calm and vigilant. Singaporeans can continue to play their part by being socially responsible, practising good personal hygiene habits and complying with safe distancing measures. (click here to view other MOH Health Advisories). 

     Members of the public should adopt the following precautions at all times:

 

• Avoid close contact with people who are unwell or showing symptoms of illness;
• Observe good personal hygiene;
• Practise frequent hand washing with soap (e.g. before handling food or eating, after going to toilet, or when hands are dirtied by respiratory secretions after coughing or sneezing);
• Wear a mask if you have respiratory symptoms such as a cough or runny nose;
• Cover your mouth with a tissue paper when coughing or sneezing, and dispose the soiled tissue paper in the rubbish bin immediately; and
• Seek medical attention promptly if you are feeling unwell.

you're jokin' right?

https://www.nst.com.my/world/region/2020/03/579692/covid-19-singapore-covid-19-cases-rise-879

[watthong]

SARS-COV-2 (circa 2020)

 

 

SARS-COV-0 (circa Ding or Ming dynasties...)

 

Edited March 31, 2020 by watthong

[mok199]

Similar to the ''cave disaster'' when Thailand finally called in outside help......the mai pen rai Nation,with their amulets , lucky numbers taken from accident scene license plates and red fanta.....thanks but no thanks.....i'll get my advice from Dr goggle

Edited March 31, 2020 by mok199

[ericthai]

13 hours ago, PaDavid said:

Following the comparisons being made with Singapore I did some research. Singapore has a population of 5.8 million, Thailand 80 million, so about 13 times greater. Yesterday Singapore had 35 new cases, Thailand 127. Singapore has reported 3 deaths, Thailand 7. Based on these statistics, it would appear that proportionally it’s safer in Thailand

and you believe the numbers from Thailand ????

[Stargeezr]

He is a Thai  doctor, so of course some posters on this forum will not believe

him  for that fact alone.  If  I am wrong,  then  I  would  believe  Singapores

situation more,  right?  I am  confused  by  some  expert  posters here.

Geezer

[RJRS1301]

7 hours ago, ericthai said:

and you believe the numbers from Thailand ????

I think due to fear, poor access to testing in rural regions, lack of understanding, getting correct data is more difficult in Thailand. Singapore has a more ordered society, and messages are consistent as well as testing.

[todlad]

On 3/31/2020 at 5:36 AM, Chazar said:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/margiewarrell/2020/03/30/singapore-sets-gold-standard-against-covid-19-be-ready-be-decisive-be-bold/#3873865a7a22

That's a really good article so I appreciate the link. Of course  Singapore is a small rich country and so on but just look at what they did and how they did it. Moreover, look at their concern for humanity that is underlying their actions.

I saw their Health Minister speaking in their parliament the other week and like PM Lee, he was clearly on top of his brief: no random builder, he and he didn't have any chips on his shoulder either!

The Singaporeans would be outraged at what the government is doing to the foreigners trying extend their visas in Bangkok: mass gatherings of essentially unprotected people. I hope they keep track of all of the foreigners there and if there is a spike in cases among them, I would like to see whoever it is who is in charge of this situation being hauled before the public to explain himself ... I know, I know! Other governments have given foreigners waivers, haven't they.

The WHO is working worldwide on this situation: where are they vis a vis Thailand? For all of their big talk, even they need to watch that video of PM Lee embedded in that link.