Popular Post webfact Posted April 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 21, 2020 China may be keeping coronavirus data for commercial gain - Trump adviser FILE PHOTO: White House trade adviser Peter Navarro listens to a news conference about a presidential executive order relating to military veterans outside of the West Wing of the White House in Washington, U.S. March 4, 2019. REUTERS/Leah Millis/File Photo WASHINGTON (Reuters) - White House adviser Peter Navarro charged on Monday that China may be withholding data about early coronavirus infections because it wants to win the commercial race to create a vaccine. The United States, which has been the country worst affected by coronavirus pandemic according to official statistics, has repeatedly calling on Beijing to share early data on the outbreak, which began in China. "One of the reasons that they may not have let us in and given us the data on this virus early, is they're racing to get a vaccine and they think this is just a competitive business race, it's a business proposition so that they can sell the vaccines to the world," Navarro told Fox Business Network. "But we're going to beat them. We're going to beat them because of President Trump's leadership. We're going to beat them because HHS has already got a five-company horse race," said Navarro, referring to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. President Donald Trump has named Navarro, an outspoken critic of China, to work on supply-line issues relating to the coronavirus pandemic. There are currently no approved treatments or vaccines for COVID-19, the respiratory disease caused by the coronavirus that has killed more than 165,854 globally, with more than 2.41 million infected, according to a Reuters tally as of 1400 GMT Monday. The United States has more than 760,000 confirmed coronavirus cases infections and over 41,100 deaths, nearly half of them in the state of New York. (Reporting by Tim Ahmann and David Brunnstrom; Editing by Leslie Adler) -- © Copyright Reuters 2020-04-21 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tug Posted April 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 21, 2020 Oh bs just trying to provide cover for donalds bungled response no more no less 17 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheDark Posted April 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 21, 2020 14 minutes ago, webfact said: WASHINGTON (Reuters) - White House adviser Peter Navarro charged on Monday that China may be withholding data about early coronavirus infections because it wants to win the commercial race to create a vaccine. This is actually how Trump thinks. This is what he would do and he often blames others for doing so (without them actually doing so), what he has in his twisted mind. Money and power. Nothing else matters to him. 18 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odysseus123 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Ah....hmmm....wow...gee..gosh..darn it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matzzon Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 23 minutes ago, webfact said: China may be withholding data about early coronavirus infections because it wants to win the commercial race to create a vaccine. Oh, this guy is so smart so he got me lost already in the first sentence. If a country develop a working vaccine, than I suppose that´s the only commercial they will ever need. To me that can not ever be related to how many infections they had or not. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thailand Posted April 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 21, 2020 Trump, isn't he the one using the deadly virus as a political election platform? 3 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Slip Posted April 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 21, 2020 Quote "But we're going to beat them. We're going to beat them because of President Trump's leadership." Does he not realise how pathetic this makes a great nation seem? 8 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post graemeaylward Posted April 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 21, 2020 Who cares who finds a vaccine as long as one is found poste haste! Why should China provide any info to Trump when Trump engaged in aggressive trade wars with China! Until the US population realise that Trump is only interested in Trump and money, there is little hope! Work together to save the world! It is not a competitive game! This is serious! 7 1 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TopDeadSenter Posted April 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 21, 2020 15 minutes ago, Thailand said: Trump, isn't he the one using the deadly virus as a political election platform? No. But his regular debunking of disgusting fake news at his press briefings will certainly help him in November. His banning Chinese travellers at such an early stage, when the left were attacking him because banning Chinese was "racist" is a real feather in his cap. You can't change history even when the facts upset and challenge your political bias. 5 2 5 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted April 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 21, 2020 Somebody thinks we’ve all forgotten Trump’s sneaky attempt to buy a German pharmaceutical company working on a vaccine. That aside, is the US now arguing intellectual property rights don’t exist? 4 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted April 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 21, 2020 57 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said: No. But his regular debunking of disgusting fake news at his press briefings will certainly help him in November. His banning Chinese travellers at such an early stage, when the left were attacking him because banning Chinese was "racist" is a real feather in his cap. You can't change history even when the facts upset and challenge your political bias. His ‘press briefings’ are a gift to Biden’s campaign. I encourage him to continue them right up to the election. 4 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eric Loh Posted April 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 21, 2020 I hope Navarro know that the largest companies that have the production capacities to ramp up large quantity, cheap and fast are in China. I also hope Trump realized by now that vaccine quality for international procurement are assured by WHO through a series of prequalihication requirements. A stamp of approval by WHO is required to assure that the vaccines are safe, effective and of high quality and thus recommended for bulk purchase. So much to say about those uncontrollable free wheeling loud mouths in the WH. 8 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RJRS1301 Posted April 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 21, 2020 2 hours ago, webfact said: "But we're going to beat them. We're going to beat them because of President Trump's leadership. In which parallel universe ? 6 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odysseus123 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said: In which parallel universe ? The one with the mad hatter's tea party in it? "Twas brillig and the slithy toves did gyre and gimble in the wabe.." seems an eminently fair description of Trump and his cabinet. Edited April 21, 2020 by Odysseus123 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post finnsk Posted April 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 21, 2020 I do not believe in Trump/CIA. I do not believe in Beijing/China. The only fact is that SARS and Covid has started being spread from Wuhan. Is it because of the dirty animal markets in Wuhan, I dont know Is it because of some bats, I dont know Is it because of some accidents from the epidemic sciense laboratories in Wuhan, I dont know Who knows, I dont know 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RJRS1301 Posted April 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, finnsk said: I do not believe in Trump/CIA. I do not believe in Beijing/China. The only fact is that SARS and Covid has started being spread from Wuhan. Is it because of the dirty animal markets in Wuhan, I dont know Is it because of some bats, I dont know Is it because of some accidents from the epidemic sciense laboratories in Wuhan, I dont know Who knows, I dont know Oh the TVF epidemiologists, virologists, researchers, and demographers will soon let you know. Their barstools have been taken away so they are back in their labs Then the tinfoil hatters can assist with your knowledge. 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CaptRon2 Posted April 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said: Somebody thinks we’ve all forgotten Trump’s sneaky attempt to buy a German pharmaceutical company working on a vaccine. That aside, is the US now arguing intellectual property rights don’t exist? https://www.politico.eu/article/trump-coronavirus-vaccine-germany-curevac/ The above link is a statement from the company’s CEO saying it never happened, perhaps you missed the follow up to the original unconfirmed accusations. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stevenl Posted April 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 21, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, CaptRon2 said: https://www.politico.eu/article/trump-coronavirus-vaccine-germany-curevac/ The above link is a statement from the company’s CEO saying it never happened, perhaps you missed the follow up to the original unconfirmed accusations. Sure, while his main Investor and German government say otherwise. Edited April 21, 2020 by stevenl Spelling 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pesche Posted April 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 21, 2020 These allegations are so too much ridiculous! We see here an escalating "horse race" (like mentioned) to make gazillions of profits! Again, this is ONLY money!! Not "saving the human population"! If it would be so, the researchers would ALL WORK TOGETHER!! But NO everyone is researching on his own to win the race and SELL !!! MONEY - PROFIT - HUMAN GREED, HUMAN EGOISM!!!! 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadman Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 4 hours ago, Slip said: Does he not realise how pathetic this makes a great nation seem? Great nation...lol...the US has been going down the dunnie for the past few years... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RichardColeman Posted April 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 21, 2020 Not bothered by China being first to find a vaccine. I am sure they will give it away for free - like their virus 3 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 What does he mean exactly? China shared the genetic sequence on January 12, could they have shared it one or two weeks earlier? What's the impact on a process that needs around 18 months to get completed? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 (edited) The uk will be first to a vaccine then we can then use it as part of a brexit trade deal when Boris stops lounging around at chequers ???? Edited April 21, 2020 by sammieuk1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post natway09 Posted April 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 21, 2020 Interesting that thay blame China for not advising the world "poste haste" but when the President of the United States Mr Donald Trump (the goose) was advised he made jokes about it for 8 days that it was just a stray Chinamans disease then did NOTHING for another 7 days,,,,, then the penny half dropped 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RJRS1301 Posted April 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 21, 2020 4 hours ago, Pesche said: These allegations are so too much ridiculous! We see here an escalating "horse race" (like mentioned) to make gazillions of profits! Again, this is ONLY money!! Not "saving the human population"! If it would be so, the researchers would ALL WORK TOGETHER!! But NO everyone is researching on his own to win the race and SELL !!! MONEY - PROFIT - HUMAN GREED, HUMAN EGOISM!!!! I know that the Queensland Medical Institute and University of Queensland is working in collaboration with Universities in the Netherlands and other countries. Most Universities do work in collaboration across the globe 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 1 hour ago, candide said: What does he mean exactly? China shared the genetic sequence on January 12, could they have shared it one or two weeks earlier? What's the impact on a process that needs around 18 months to get completed? Many researchers across the globe had been working for a decade for a vaccine for SARS Corona, and that work is being used as a base I believe in some instances Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thesetat2013 Posted April 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 21, 2020 8 hours ago, TheDark said: This is actually how Trump thinks. This is what he would do and he often blames others for doing so (without them actually doing so), what he has in his twisted mind. Money and power. Nothing else matters to him. Wow.. The same can be said for China.. Only difference is.... You are a Trump hater so any response you give is negative about him instead of about the story. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesetat2013 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 20 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said: Many researchers across the globe had been working for a decade for a vaccine for SARS Corona, and that work is being used as a base I believe in some instances Genetic sequence doesn't help them to make a vaccine or antidote. It only shows then the genetic structure to study how it is made up and what it's designed to do. At least that is my understanding of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 (edited) 32 minutes ago, thesetat2013 said: Genetic sequence doesn't help them to make a vaccine or antidote. It only shows then the genetic structure to study how it is made up and what it's designed to do. At least that is my understanding of it QMI had some reasonable results in lab testing, which I believe is what has been shared, and I have been informed that it is close to phase two trials, I am not in full understanding nor knowledge of the intricacies, as that would be heavily under confidentiality and limited access I rtesd a report that they had worked on novel corona. Edited April 21, 2020 by RJRS1301 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpy 4680 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 I'm sure China were working on a vaccine, before they released it. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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