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Hello,

What type of cows to buy that family can raise and then sell for money.  I think we would want to buy first a female cow so that the cow would have babies.

 

How much would it cost typically  to purchase a young female cow for breeding in Isan?

 

Thank you for educating me about cows, and how much is s fair price for a young female cow.

 

Thanks,

Robert

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A fair price for a a heifer is anywhere from around 5,000 up to 60,000 and beyond.  Depends on breed and condition.  Your best bet is to buy a cow that has just birthed a calf, purchase them as a pair, this way you know the cow is able to get pregnant, care needs to be taken though as some sellers will pair a calf with a heifer that is unable to get pregnant. 

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37 minutes ago, Rob3016 said:

female cow

First of all, all cows are female. 

 

You're probably looking for a "heifer" (= a young cow that hasn't had a calf yet). 

 

Before buying these animals, make sure your family has enough grass or time to collect grass from the roadsides. Alternatively, the ability to make hay or silage for feeding later. If I had a Baht for every skinny, under fed beast I saw in Isan, I'd be a multi-millionaire by now. 

 

I'm not trying to burst your bubble, but raising livestock here isn't easy and most certainly isn't as profitable as some think it is. You must have a supply of water and feed, 365 days a year. Then there's vets to pay, medicine to buy, protien rich nuts/feed, etc. 

 

It might be less expensive for you to simply hand your inlaws your wallet including credit cards. 

 

Why are you even thinking of buying living creatures for them anyways?! 

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3 minutes ago, djayz said:

First of all, all cows are female. 

 

You're probably looking for a "heifer" (= a young cow that hasn't had a calf yet). 

 

Before buying these animals, make sure your family has enough grass or time to collect grass from the roadsides. Alternatively, the ability to make hay or silage for feeding later. If I had a Baht for every skinny, under fed beast I saw in Isan, I'd be a multi-millionaire by now. 

 

I'm not trying to burst your bubble, but raising livestock here isn't easy and most certainly isn't as profitable as some think it is. You must have a supply of water and feed, 365 days a year. Then there's vets to pay, medicine to buy, protien rich nuts/feed, etc. 

 

It might be less expensive for you to simply hand your inlaws your wallet including credit cards. 

 

Why are you even thinking of buying living creatures for them anyways?! 

Christ your going to scare him to death haha in my experience if he starts with A Thai heifer or cow and pays a fair price he wont lose any money (or very little) if this don't work out and it ends up at the knackery.  We both know Thai cows are basically donkeys that will eat anything and are pretty tuff.  I have Brahmans myself.  But i think he's not risking much if he does his research first then dives in.

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20 minutes ago, Heppinger said:

A fair price for a a heifer is anywhere from around 5,000 up to 60,000 and beyond.  Depends on breed and condition.  Your best bet is to buy a cow that has just birthed a calf, purchase them as a pair, this way you know the cow is able to get pregnant, care needs to be taken though as some sellers will pair a calf with a heifer that is unable to get pregnant. 

Pair a calf with a heifer? Where did you get that mad idea? A heifer would have no milk to feed a calf. 

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7 minutes ago, Emeraldisle said:

Pair a calf with a heifer? Where did you get that mad idea? A heifer would have no milk to feed a calf. 

Read the post again. Sellers will pair a calf with a heifer that is unable to get pregnant. If the heifer isn't the mother of the calf and the heifer is unable to get pregnant and has never been able to get pregnant then it is still a heifer isn't it. And pretty much useless to anyone except a knackery. Unless cattle have some adoption rules i don't know about.

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13 minutes ago, Emeraldisle said:

Pair a calf with a heifer? Where did you get that mad idea? A heifer would have no milk to feed a calf. 

When i say pair, i mean they will tie them up together at the sale yards and tell you the calf came from that cow. 

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My girlfriend will buy the cow from her brother or father, the cow will be raised by her father to take care.  There appears to be plenty of grass around.  The father already owns and takes care of around five cows.

 

I want to learn what is a fair price to provide to her brother or father for a young cow to call her own.  Whether the nearly acquired cow will be able to get pregnant or not well I can't predict the future. I simply want to get a general idea what is a fair price for a sale between family members to purchase a young cow. My gut says 5,000 baht seems too low.  I would think somewhere between B10,000 to B20,000, yet I have no clue.  I am a city guy. 

 

The sale is between family members.  I am simply going to provide my girlfriend some money and say this is for your cow.  She may use it to buy a cow, or she may buy a phone.  I couldn't care less. I will notate it in my records that I gave her this gift for a cow and should she say in the future she wants money for a cow, I'll say last year I already gave you money for a cow.  I don't need an exact number, I just want to know a reasonable price so everyone including me can safe face.

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Why don’t you save yourself a lot of time and trouble and do what your girlfriend really wants, which is to be offered a monthly allowance for being with you?  Make it contingent on not having to hear anymore sob stories, and explain that she has to solve her own problems, and those of her family, with that money each month.

 

Then she can spend most of her time surfing her phone instead of making up reasons you need to pay her.  Life will be more peaceful for you.

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10 minutes ago, amykat said:

Why don’t you save yourself a lot of time and trouble and do what your girlfriend really wants, which is to be offered a monthly allowance for being with you?  Make it contingent on not having to hear anymore sob stories, and explain that she has to solve her own problems, and those of her family, with that money each month.

 

Then she can spend most of her time surfing her phone instead of making up reasons you need to pay her.  Life will be more peaceful for you.

I think the OP's expecting the Thai girlfriend to turn this one cow into the next agricultural Thai behemoth within the next few weeks.  

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1 hour ago, Rob3016 said:

She may use it to buy a cow, or she may buy a phone.  I couldn't care less. I will notate it in my records that I gave her this gift for a cow and should she say in the future she wants money for a cow, I'll say last year I already gave you money for a cow.

I don't think you understand.

 

When the cow gets sick, and generally they do quite rapidly from the time of "purchase", the cost of treatment well exceeds the cost of the cow itself, and is recurring.

 

Over one year, a 20K cow can incur a medical cost of 200K, in installments.

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I don't actually look after our cows but in 10 years, having just 5 - 8 animals about the place: foot and mouth disease. One calf died a day or two after birth. One mother cow had the womb hanging out after birth, another doctor's bill. (I know why this happened but as I said I don't get involved - sold at a loss). One cow managed to strangle itself at night. One of the seven beasts we now have just won't fatten up and will fetch a low price when it gets sold which will be soon. 

They are well fed and fat (with exception) but now that the rice fields are being prepared and sown they will no longer be able to feed on the nice grass they have had for the last few weeks and the daily adventure of looking for feed will begin for the son in law. Oh, and the barn needs a new roof .....

Up to you!

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