racinkc1 Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 Im a big believe that no matter where you go, there you are. However, Iv been feeling very alien in Chiang Mai. Im not trying to be Thai and I don't hang around any expats. I just try to be polite, tip well and mind my own business. But I don't feel welcome at all anymore. I realize most Thais are tried of us, but I'm on a 1 year ed visa and not going anywhere for a while. Im just wondering if some expats find it easier to blend in in Bangkok or even Pattaya, you know, amongst the hustle and bustle of a larger city? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post poohy Posted May 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 8, 2020 I prefer to avoid and or ignore them not blend in with them I feel it works better that way 13 3 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nikmar Posted May 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 8, 2020 life in general - not a problem. Forexample, i get on well with neighbours and have some thai friends. Same goes for thai family, The FIL is a miserable wotsit but my BIL is sound as a pound. Work in office - Im the only farang and am generally ingnored, but i do catch the odd barb in the white noise they call conversation. Im uncomfortable sometimes / rarely but not enough for it to be a problem to me. But, having said that, im a miserable wotsit in my own right at times. 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tribalfusion001 Posted May 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 8, 2020 I find sitting in a local Thai bar and chatting to the Thais is a good one way blend in. They let regulars have a tab, can sit in the bar after closing time, jump on motorcycle with a member of staff to the nearest 7/11. The Thai couple who run my local bar even me took me to Suttisan police station last year when phone was stolen from my room. Never had a problem blending in, I'm not fluent in Thai, but I try to order what I want in Thai and if I make a mistake many times they help me out with pronounciation. 15 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Keyser Soze666 Posted May 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 8, 2020 ''I'm a big believe that no matter where you go, there you are'' Erh, yea. Where else would you be?? 5 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lee b Posted May 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 8, 2020 Ive never had a problem blending in here in Chiang Mai. I used to live in Bangkok for several years, I found it more difficult to mix there especially with the expats, some of them dont like to break there own little circle of freinds. I have many expat mates here in CM, and even though most of them are alot older than me, this does not bother me at all. I only tend to mix with Thais when I am with my wife, this is because most of them ( not all ) are happy to sit with you just for a free night out etc. I dont and never will class the hangers on as mates. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post brokenbone Posted May 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 8, 2020 easiest way buy a big bike and join an mc club 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kwasaki Posted May 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 8, 2020 It takes a while to make friends anywhere you go is my experience no matter what country IMHO. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Puchaiyank Posted May 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 8, 2020 Interesting thread...begs the question: Why would you want to stay in a place you are not wanted or welcomed? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BritManToo Posted May 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 8, 2020 1 hour ago, racinkc1 said: I'm just wondering if some expats find it easier to blend in in Bangkok or even Pattaya, you know, amongst the hustle and bustle of a larger city? Ignore the locals apart from simple commerce, don't tip. It's worked for me. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BritManToo Posted May 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 8, 2020 (edited) 46 minutes ago, YetAnother said: the thais are a pretty shallow group; once you learn what thainess really means, at least to the level you need to, you will start avoiding thais and , likely, re-seekout the expat crowd I avoid everyone. Same as I avoided everyone when I lived in the UK. Edited May 8, 2020 by BritManToo 11 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bkk6060 Posted May 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 8, 2020 1 hour ago, racinkc1 said: But I don't feel welcome at all anymore. Right now I doubt if many do. The virus is obviously mostly a western issue now. Thais probably think you are a big part of the problem or sick. So, I guess do not expect much from them for the time being. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BobBKK Posted May 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 8, 2020 28 minutes ago, Puchaiyank said: Interesting thread...begs the question: Why would you want to stay in a place you are not wanted or welcomed? Cost? girls? food? weather? tons of reasons. I don't think I know of many Farang who find Thais very welcoming or polite. We are outsiders what can we expect? it doesn't bother me much - I respect everyone I meet Thai, Farang or whatever. Thais are very insular and they are brought up that way it's how the Amaart retain their power so easily - deference and it ain't to farang! 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mr mr Posted May 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 8, 2020 26 minutes ago, bkk6060 said: Right now I doubt if many do. The virus is obviously mostly a western issue now. Thais probably think you are a big part of the problem or sick. So, I guess do not expect much from them for the time being. i wonder if there is a different sentiment regarding the foreigners age ? say a healthy young 43 year old such as myself vs an aging dinosaur who looks like he shared a room with death in college. this may have something to do with it. 3 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post talahtnut Posted May 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 8, 2020 If you want to be on sociable terms with a Thai you've got to tickle his or her sense of humour and make him laugh, then do them a favour of some kind. A true trusted friend is a rare is a rare item anywhere. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgrahmm Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 (edited) I just go around like I belong in the space I'm occupying during that time..... Trading smiles continues to serve me well here (CM), even with masks.....I've never experienced any animosity or visible distain..... That being said, I'm not out riding in tuktuks, songtou trucks, or motocy ekeing my way around either so it's possible that takes some of the locals judgements our of it..... I walk & ride a bike around most days for some exercise & am greeted with hellos, smiles, and waves by Thais - more than would happen back home.... Expats, only mix with a few + don't do the club/bar/pub thing, that's an automatic "lost points/status" situation in most societies anyway..... Edited May 8, 2020 by pgrahmm 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BritManToo Posted May 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 8, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, mr mr said: ay a healthy young 43 year old such as myself vs an aging dinosaur who looks like he shared a room with death in college. this may have something to do with it. Never heard a 43 year old describe themselves as 'young'. Back in your home country no woman would look at you (with anything apart from disgust). Thailand, land of delusion. Edited May 8, 2020 by BritManToo 3 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pilotman Posted May 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 8, 2020 Three years now living in Thailand. as opposed to lots of visits over the years. Year One, nightmare, didn't know how to get things done, everyone xxxxing me off. Year 2, started to get a grip of myself and work things out, adapt and blend in. Year three, great, would not live anywhere else. Like most things, it takes time, but if you put in the effort, stay calm (Jai Yen Yen, a great phrase that my wife uses almost every day on me), stay open minded, leave your western head in the fridge. this can be the best place to live in the World. 14 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post faraday Posted May 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 8, 2020 Somtam & Lao Khao, you'll be just like the locals. 1 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post racinkc1 Posted May 8, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 8, 2020 4 hours ago, YetAnother said: the thais are a pretty shallow group; once you learn what thainess really means, at least to the level you need to, you will start avoiding thais and , likely, re-seekout the expat crowd Avoid Thais in Thailand? Where do I go? No one really answered my question about where the strongest expat community is. Even the Expats are bothering me. They stare like they think they are Thais or something... Bloody hypocrites!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racinkc1 Posted May 8, 2020 Author Share Posted May 8, 2020 3 hours ago, brokenbone said: easiest way buy a big bike and join an mc club Im not looking to fully integrate, yet. Im just here for a couple years while I take online classes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racinkc1 Posted May 8, 2020 Author Share Posted May 8, 2020 3 hours ago, BritManToo said: I avoid everyone. Same as I avoided everyone when I lived in the UK. I pretty much hated everywhere I go. Im just feeling particularly uncomfortable right now. Maybe covid is making things worse? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BritManToo Posted May 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 8, 2020 Just now, racinkc1 said: I pretty much hated everywhere I go. Im just feeling particularly uncomfortable right now. Maybe covid is making things worse? I love everywhere I go ...... I just don't mix with the locals ..... beyond young women in bars of course, but that falls under my 'simple commerce' exclusion.. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racinkc1 Posted May 8, 2020 Author Share Posted May 8, 2020 3 hours ago, bkk6060 said: Right now I doubt if many do. The virus is obviously mostly a western issue now. Thais probably think you are a big part of the problem or sick. So, I guess do not expect much from them for the time being. Do you really think Covid is making things worse? I plan on being here for a couple of years while I put myself through school. I just want to be able to walk down the street and not completely avoid eye contact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post baansgr Posted May 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 8, 2020 Get yourself a few Amulets, a Buriram footie shirt and a sak Yant...you'll blend in anywhere in Thailand. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misterjames Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, racinkc1 said: Do you really think Covid is making things worse? I plan on being here for a couple of years while I put myself through school. I just want to be able to walk down the street and not completely avoid eye contact. Something you might want to consider is that most Thai people are falling for the CCP line on covid they believe that it came from America 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post racinkc1 Posted May 8, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 8, 2020 2 hours ago, faraday said: Somtam & Lao Khao, you'll be just like the locals. You're the only one who offered up some other places to check out. Why these areas? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post racinkc1 Posted May 8, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, baansgr said: Get yourself a few Amulets, a Buriram footie shirt and a sak Yant...you'll blend in anywhere in Thailand. What about some elephant pants? Will elephant pants help me fit in? 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilotman Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 16 minutes ago, racinkc1 said: Avoid Thais in Thailand? Where do I go? No one really answered my question about where the strongest expat community is. Even the Expats are bothering me. They stare like they think they are Thais or something... Bloody hypocrites!! sorry but the only answer to that attitude is for you to go home. You really should not be here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racinkc1 Posted May 8, 2020 Author Share Posted May 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, misterjames said: Something you might want to consider is that most Thai people are falling for the CCP line on covid they believe that it came from America I pray to Buddha thats not true! I will lose so much respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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