shy coconut Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 6 hours ago, Thaiwrath said: If you don't test people, you don't get the correct information ! Do you have the correct information? How many new infections have you recorded, how can you possibly know how many people have been tested? I don't know the answers either, but haven't heard officially, or unofficially, of mass outbreaks and deaths, but then again, I'm not as well informed as you. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eibot Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 13 minutes ago, KhaoYai said: And you know that for a fact? Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berrec Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 Test .... test ... and more Testing otherwise the numbers gazetted are all BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tingnongnoi Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, DrTuner said: In netphacharat there's again an interesting chart: https://www.netpracharat.com/News/NewsPr/Detail.aspx?id=2554 It seems to show a breakdown according to places such as restaurant, markets, haircut etc. that is results of checking whether restaurants etc... are complying with the regulations since they have been reopened, green= fully complying, yellow=complying but not fully, orange= not complying and blue line percentage not complying. The left side is day by day tests starting from 6th of May which was I think when these businesses were allowed to start back up. Edited May 13, 2020 by Tingnongnoi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac98 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 7 hours ago, Dmaxdan said: Congratulations Thailand on a job well done. But it is still way too soon for everyone to drop their guard. Or their pants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eibot Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Canuck1966 said: They have people with brains in the west and journalists who ask questions. Impossible to get away with large scale lies and coverups Smart people like Trump. So grateful that they never lie in the west. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Canuck1966 said: They have people with brains in the west and journalists who ask questions. Impossible to get away with large scale lies and coverups Its called a controlled media black out. Only things they want out there to be seen are published.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricTh Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 I would like to know how many of total infected and total death cases are Thai citizens and not foreigners. That will give us a clearer picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratchsima Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Yorkshire Tea said: How many villages, towns & cities in Thailand? Say every village had 10 deaths due to the virus (but not put down to virus), over the last 5 months, how many would that be? Not exactly "piles of bodies easily noticeable". What if every village had 30 deaths over 5 months? Again, no piles of bodies piling up. 56 deaths? Nonsense lack logically mathematically common senses!!!!The virus spreading will never be distrbuted equally like that. Your comment ( and others who keep asking about Number of tesets) show SOME farang in Thailand are living up to thier reputation. The losers. 7+ Thai people in UK has died from Covid19. Most of them sadly died at home and did not even get admit to the hospital. How many British has died in Thailand from Covid19? well There are still plenty of hospital bed , doctors and nurses , medicine readily available for you here in Thailand Damn you lucky b**t*rd. Be thanksful for once that you are here. Edited May 13, 2020 by Ratchsima 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Why Me Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 10 minutes ago, EricTh said: I would like to know how many of total infected and total death cases are Thai citizens and not foreigners. That will give us a clearer picture. It will say nothing. The number of foreigners in this country the past couple of months is minuscule. Well, good job Thailand. Now open up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stretch2480 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 7 hours ago, fondue zoo said: Is the Western media all over this? If not, why not? Lol why would the western media bother there’s enough for them to bicker about in their own countries. I’m working in Afghanistan and the numbers here that are reported are astonishingly good lol maybe that’s because there’s no 1 here who can actually confirm. Same with a lot of under developed countries all fictitious figures no actual facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BritManToo Posted May 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 13, 2020 (edited) Just now, Ratchsima said: 7+ Thai people in UK has died from Covid19. Most of them sadly died at home and did not even get admit to the hospital. Why does nobody in Thailand claim to have known these people? How do you know any real people actually died? Come to think of it, why don't I know anyone who died? Why doesn't anyone who posts on any of the worldwide forums I frequent know anyone that died? You'd think a forum member or two would have had a friend or relative die? This forum is frequented by the oldest, laziest, unhealthiest, fattest alcoholics in the world ... why are none of us dead? Edited May 13, 2020 by BritManToo 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCP108 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, BritManToo said: Why does nobody in Thailand claim to have known these people? How do you know any real people actually died? Come to think of it, why don't I know anyone who died? Why doesn't anyone who posts on any of the worldwide forums I frequent know anyone that died? You'd think a forum member or two would have had a friend or relative die? That's because there are over 7 billion people on the planet right now. Only 4 million cases reported and under 300k deaths attributed. So, only a very small chance any one of us will know one of the dead so far. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, BritManToo said: Why does nobody in Thailand claim to have known these people? How do you know any real people actually died? Come to think of it, why don't I know anyone who died? Why doesn't anyone who posts on any of the worldwide forums I frequent know anyone that died? You'd think a forum member or two would have had a friend or relative die? Brit, do you not remember my posts, I lost a good friend who was my kids teacher as well as two police officer's who I new, all of course in the US, but the three family I lost here were in the Udon Thani province and were never tested.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 (edited) Just now, JCP108 said: That's because there are over 7 billion people on the planet right now. Only 4 million cases reported and under 300k deaths attributed. So, only a very small chance any one of us will know one of the dead so far. So the disease is in fact trivial ........ and the whole world has thrown their economies away for nothing? Seems a little unlikely! Edited May 13, 2020 by BritManToo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eibot Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 7 minutes ago, Stretch2480 said: Lol why would the western media bother there’s enough for them to bicker about in their own countries. I’m working in Afghanistan and the numbers here that are reported are astonishingly good lol maybe that’s because there’s no 1 here who can actually confirm. Same with a lot of under developed countries all fictitious figures no actual facts. Are you comparing the healtcare state of Thailand towards the healthcare state of Thailand? You do realize that Thailand is in the top 10 of best Healthcare in the world. People are astonished that Thais are doing so good, but I rather be taking care in the healthcare system in Thailand than the <deleted>ty NHS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eibot Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, BritManToo said: This forum is frequented by the oldest, laziest, fattest alcoholics in the world ... I take offense to that... I do consider myself a quite fit alcoholic... Edited May 13, 2020 by Eibot spelling. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 Some off topic posts and replies have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StreetCowboy Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 I could not find the corresponding data for Thailand. For example, in Malaysia on Monday 9,111 tests were reported, of which 70 were positive. The positives include all the referrals from private hospitals or clinics, but the negatives do not; so for example our project has mandated universal testing before returning to work and referred 6 positive cases (most or all of whom were asymptomatic), out of somewhere in the region of 3,000 - 5,000, I believe. Of the 6,726 positive cases up till Monday, a large number (many hundreds) have been picked up during 100% testing at full lock-down locations, where a section of town is completely closed and isolated with barbed wire, and 100% testing is carried out. The actual number of cases obviously depends on how many tests are carried out, and also how those tests are focussed; given that the MOH focusses on areas of high risk, contact tracing, airport repatriations and those with symptoms, I think that they are doing a pretty good job, and I am comfortable that the country will cope with the upcoming surge at Hari Raya. I don't feel at great risk, since the four suburbs near me have all reported zero cases since detailed district reports started being issued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
condobrit001 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 50 minutes ago, BritManToo said: Why does nobody in Thailand claim to have known these people? How do you know any real people actually died? Come to think of it, why don't I know anyone who died? Why doesn't anyone who posts on any of the worldwide forums I frequent know anyone that died? You'd think a forum member or two would have had a friend or relative die? This forum is frequented by the oldest, laziest, unhealthiest, fattest alcoholics in the world ... why are none of us dead? Where do you get your information regarding those who frequent this forum? Many are Thai trolls - you can always tell by their standard of written English. OK, the remainder are farang bar stool jockeys. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, condobrit001 said: Where do you get your information regarding those who frequent this forum? Many are Thai trolls - you can always tell by their standard of written English. OK, the remainder are farang bar stool jockeys. I guess I am sitting on my Bar Stool being a jockey, since I am not a Thai troll... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhaoYai Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Eibot said: Yes Then please share your source. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
condobrit001 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said: I guess I am sitting on my Bar Stool being a jockey, since I am not a Thai troll... Maybe so ThailandRyan - if indeed that is your real name... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Ratchsima said: and what about other conutries? Do they count as No. of tests or No. of people tested??? Both, here's the UK from yesterday which are published daily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 (edited) A new and very interesting article from Thomas Pueyo about how to avoid spreading and seeding in re-openings: https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-prevent-seeding-and-spreading-e84ed405e37d It has some interesting examples of how clusters started. Also analysis like this: Edited May 13, 2020 by DrTuner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JungleBiker Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 7 hours ago, drbeach said: Thailand has tested PLENTY of people, more than 200,000. Look at the Corona virus meter website. If you want to be suspicious of any governments ask yourself why Laos and Cambodia have only managed a paltry 19 and 122 cases, with no new cases in several weeks, respectively. It's because the former has only performed 3500 tests and the latter about 14000. If they tested 10 times more, dozens of new cases would surely appear. As far as I'm concerned, Thailand and Vietnam have done all they have been asked to do during this crisis. Meanwhile, Laos and Cambodia kind of don't want to take part. And I'm not the only one thinking this. Channel One 31's news host questioned why Laos (back in late March I think it was) had recorded zero cases. He later had to make an apology to the Lao embassy. Of course this was just a face saving exercise but the truth is, there are many discrepancies with this whole virus situation, especially odd is what's happening in neighboring countries. Actually all the countries in this area, including many provinces of China, have very few or zero deaths. I reckon >99.9% of the people in this area do not react the same way to Covid-19 as people in Europe and North America. People here have been living alongside the many kinds of coronavirus for tens of thousands of years. Think of Darwin and genetics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAZZPA Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Eibot said: Are you comparing the healtcare state of Thailand towards the healthcare state of Thailand? You do realize that Thailand is in the top 10 of best Healthcare in the world. People are astonished that Thais are doing so good, but I rather be taking care in the healthcare system in Thailand than the <deleted>ty NHS. What complete and utter nonsense. You obviously have no clue what you are talking about. Thailand has some excellent healthcare, no doubt, but ALL of them in the private sector. The government hospitals are absolutely not the best healthcare in the world. Comparing the UK National Health to extremely expensive, private healthcare in Thailand is not a level playing field. However if you compare the UK NHS to the same in Thailand there is absolutely zero comparison. The NHS is a fantastic service that is far, far better then the Thai government hospitals, the best example in the world today of free healthcare to everyone no matter how rich or poor. The private hospitals may be closer but for me I would rather pop down to Harley Street in London if I were looking for the best healthcare then Bangkok General. In summary you can get good medical care in Thailand if your pockets are deep enough or your insurance covers it. if not you are at the mercy of not much better then a Victorian abattoir. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, JungleBiker said: Actually all the countries in this area, including many provinces of China, have very few or zero deaths. I reckon >99.9% of the people in this area do not react the same way to Covid-19 as people in Europe and North America. People here have been living alongside the many kinds of coronavirus for tens of thousands of years. Think of Darwin and genetics. Personally I think the low deaths data is down to the age groups of those who have caught the virus in Thailand. Much younger overall than in Europe and better able to cope with the effects. Highest risks of catching the virus here have been in the 20 to 40 age groups Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fondue zoo Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 I suppose in the end we and the Thai people all want to go back to enjoying life here, the pools to reopen, and my tom yum gai lady to return... I miss you Pinee and your tasty soup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaopad999 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Canuck1966 said: 20,000 deaths from pneumonia in the whole of 2019 and already 12,000 after 4 months Add bkk and other associated deaths that were actually whu flu and a cover-up is emerging! Whatever you say, whatever you say.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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