Who pays

[mrloy99]

I was getting a load sand delivered and when tipping he caught the overhead wires and pulled the neighbors power pole out of shape and severed several strands of the supply cable to the next but one's houses supply cable..on the metered side.. Surly the drivers company has to pay? My wife seems to think I have to pay... Any thoughts? 

[BritManToo]

It'll only cost a couple of hundred baht, why worry?

I'd just call the electric company and tell them one of their poles is tilting and pulling the wires.

No need to go into details, you just found it like that (after the storm?).

They'll probably fix everything for little or nothing, the poles usually are only stuck upright in the soil.

[MJKT2014]

17 minutes ago, mrloy99 said:

Surly the drivers company has to pay? My wife seems to think I have to pay... Any thoughts? 

The wife is bang out of order, tell her to pay it if she pulls that stuff on you. Its the drivers responsibility end of.

[brokenbone]

i just cancel contract with such advisers

[bkk6060]

I don't know.

Was advised a long time ago that any traffic accident no matter what is your fault.

Why? Because you are here.  If you were not here it would not have happened.

Seems to be supported by some I know who have been in accidents.

 

So, you called for the sand and should have been present to control the tipping.

Due to these factors, the fault will be yours.

 

Your wife seems to understand the Thai thinking on these issues.

 

Not saying any of it is right, just the way it is.

[richard_smith237]

9 minutes ago, bkk6060 said:

I don't know.

Was advised a long time ago that any traffic accident no matter what is your fault.

Why? Because you are here.  If you were not here it would not have happened.

Seems to be supported by some I know who have been in accidents.

 

So, you called for the sand and should have been present to control the tipping.

Due to these factors, the fault will be yours.

 

Your wife seems to understand the Thai thinking on these issues.

 

Not saying any of it is right, just the way it is.

The 'Farang is always at fault' myth is still being perpetuated even though all the beer bars are closed !!!!! Good effort !

 

If you call at taxi and it has a crash outside your house while on the way to pick you up, is it your fault? [for the above poster bkk6060 - of course it isn't].

If you order some Tesco's groceries and the delivery van has a crash outside your house while delivering your food, is it your fault? [for the above poster bkk660 - of course it isn't].

If you order Pizza and the delivery rider comes off his motorcycle in front of your house while delivering your pizza, is it your fault? [for the above poster bkk660 - of course it isn't].

 

See where I'm going with this? The delivery company is at fault.

 

 

[mrloy99]

The tipping was supposedly controlled by drivers assistant who was holding up a couple of the overhead cables crossing our property,but there was one that he missed or fell off the holdup stick and caught the truck...There was other damage too.probably in the region of 5 000bt to the neighbours property..I can see both sides of the argument....The truck wasn't wholly outside....partly inside....And I have had to pay out before when a motorcycle crashed into me when our car had broken down on the verge and was stationary...(i'm supposed to have put up a warning triangle(i thought these were for use in Europe only)

[Lacessit]

Had a guy delivering soil clip my GF's gate so it wouldn't close properly. Welder came round to fix it the next day, 150 baht. No big deal.

2 metres of soil for 150 baht as well? Twice that price in CM.

[CGW]

41 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

The 'Farang is always at fault' myth is still being perpetuated even though all the beer bars are closed !!!!! Good effort !

So yesterday! I thought the new "Myth" was "The Thai's hate us"?

[Seeall]

1 hour ago, bkk6060 said:

I don't know.

Was advised a long time ago that any traffic accident no matter what is your fault.

Why? Because you are here.  If you were not here it would not have happened.

Seems to be supported by some I know who have been in accidents.

 

So, you called for the sand and should have been present to control the tipping.

Due to these factors, the fault will be yours.

 

Your wife seems to understand the Thai thinking on these issues.

 

Not saying any of it is right, just the way it is.

Agreed, "YOU PAY YOU PAY" and thats the way....No logic, no argument...

My GF banged the car without me, my Farang neibor warned me not go there as it will be me that will have to pay...  Another....  a dispute about something stupid (I ran over a wok on the road..) never got out of the car, the GF argued with them.. ended up at the copshop.. the wok owner sat in the copshop playing his vids of a pump action cocking and firing and glaring at me.. anyways.. the cop assistant asked me if I was ready to pay cash...  I said no, am waiting for my lawyer and I want all names behind the desk including yours.. she said no, she dont want to go to court.. then asked me if I had a permit for my gun.... I went home.. what can one say to such stupidity and brainless talk?

[Kwasaki]

3 hours ago, mrloy99 said:

Surly the drivers company has to pay? My wife seems to think I have to pay... Any thoughts? 

In my experience delivery company pays.

Just ring PEA and as said say " You came home and found it like this assuming the neighbour didn't notice".  

[bkk6060]

18 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

If you call at taxi and it has a crash outside your house while on the way to pick you up, is it your fault? [for the above poster bkk6060 - of course it isn't].

If you order some Tesco's groceries and the delivery van has a crash outside your house while delivering your food, is it your fault? [for the above poster bkk660 - of course it isn't].

If you order Pizza and the delivery rider comes off his motorcycle in front of your house while delivering your pizza, is it your fault? [for the above poster bkk660 - of course it isn't].

 

Now sure what your beer bars have to do with it but yes, thanks Rich good you understand how things work here. ????

 

 

[FritsSikkink]

19 hours ago, bkk6060 said:

I don't know.

Was advised a long time ago that any traffic accident no matter what is your fault.

Why? Because you are here.  If you were not here it would not have happened.

Seems to be supported by some I know who have been in accidents.

 

So, you called for the sand and should have been present to control the tipping.

Due to these factors, the fault will be yours.

 

Your wife seems to understand the Thai thinking on these issues.

 

Not saying any of it is right, just the way it is.

Not the way it is. The driver makes a mistake and should pay. The wife cares more for the driver than her husband.

[mrloy99]

18 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

In my experience delivery company pays.

Just ring PEA and as said say " You came home and found it like this assuming the neighbour didn't notice".  

Private pole. Not pea. 

[daveAustin]

Forget the wires, get yourself a wife that respects you. 

[Heppinger]

On 5/14/2020 at 8:37 PM, richard_smith237 said:

If you order Pizza and the delivery rider comes off his motorcycle in front of your house while delivering your pizza, is it your fault? [for the above poster bkk660 - of course it

 

Is my prized Brownred attacking said delivery rider? If so i think that I would be at fault.

[Vigilante]

3 hours ago, daveAustin said:

Forget the wires, get yourself a wife that respects you. 

Oh come on...it was just a brain f@rt (by the wife)

 

 

[UbonThani]

company pays

driver gets yelled at

wife is too chicken to confront company

[Don Mega]

18 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:

Not the way it is. The driver makes a mistake and should pay. The wife cares more for the driver than her husband.

The driver is the wife's brother/boyfriend.

[saakura]

The OP ordered the truck delivery which in the process of entering his property, damaged the neighbour's private electric supply pole. It is OP's duty to chase the truck owners and get them to repair the damages quickly. If required, get it done at his cost first and then recover from truck owner. This is the resposibility of a good neighbour and correct civil behaviour.

 

Add : the truck was halfway inside his property and not somewhere down the road.

[ColeBOzbourne]

On 5/14/2020 at 5:21 PM, bkk6060 said:

Why? Because you are here.  If you were not here it would not have happened.

And if the wife was not here, he wouldn't be here. If she were not here it would not have happened. So it's the wife's fault. She should pay.

[Wuvu2]

To the Thai way of thinking who's to blame is less important than who can more easily afford to take the financial hit.

 

 

[1FinickyOne]

On 5/14/2020 at 5:21 PM, bkk6060 said:

any traffic accident no matter what is your fault.

I have been hit 2x and both times the Thai driver was found to be at fault... and one of them was a government official... if you have first class insurance then your insurance co. is not going to want to pay if someone else is at fault... I found the police to be very fair... 

[1FinickyOne]

7 hours ago, Don Mega said:

The driver is the wife's brother/boyfriend.

lets leave no cliche unturned...

[PETERTHEEATER]

On 5/14/2020 at 6:16 PM, Lacessit said:

Had a guy delivering soil clip my GF's gate so it wouldn't close properly. Welder came round to fix it the next day, 150 baht. No big deal.

2 metres of soil for 150 baht as well? Twice that price in CM.

Seen off again. Where I am I can get 2 cubic meters of soil for that price. Two meters wouldn't fill a crack.????

[Upnotover]

8 minutes ago, kenk24 said:

lets leave no cliche unturned...

absolutely, if you don't like it....etc.

[1FinickyOne]

14 minutes ago, Upnotover said:

absolutely, if you don't like it....etc.

Wow... a little nasty.. good for you... maybe nasty works w/the girls if you are unoriginal... 

[Stevemercer]

The company will remedy/pay. Normally the driver will call his boss who will come out and have a look and discuss with all affected parties. He will normally use his own resources and manpower to fix. The driver will probably get the cost taken out of his salary (at least until he is forgiven).

 

A truck delivering sand on our property raised the dump under the electricity wires on our property pulling out a common pole at our driveway entrance. The boss came around. The next day they reinserted the pole and straightened everything out.

 

A tree felling contractor working on a property next door felled a tree which fell on our electricity wires bringing down a private pole. The property owner, who was present, disappeared, but the contractor did take responsibility. The next day they used their tree harnesses to right the pole and concreted it in. They also cleaned up all the mess from the fallen tree.

 

In both cases my wife spoke politely to the responsible parties who agreed to remedy the situation. She said she would make a complaint to the police if they did not do so within 24 hours.

[scorecard]

On 5/14/2020 at 8:21 PM, bkk6060 said:

I don't know.

Was advised a long time ago that any traffic accident no matter what is your fault.

Why? Because you are here.  If you were not here it would not have happened.

Seems to be supported by some I know who have been in accidents.

 

So, you called for the sand and should have been present to control the tipping.

Due to these factors, the fault will be yours.

 

Your wife seems to understand the Thai thinking on these issues.

 

Not saying any of it is right, just the way it is.

"Your wife seems to understand the Thai thinking on these issues.

 

Not saying any of it is right, just the way it is.'

 

True, it's normal to completely avoid anything which even slightly looks like confrontation, to avoid negotiations with neighbors, and with anybody.

 

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[GreasyFingers]

On 5/15/2020 at 2:14 PM, mrloy99 said:

Private pole. Not pea. 

We were having extensions done recently when the cement truck brought down the power pole. Found out later that we owned the pole, not PEA. The builder knew it was the drivers fault but did not want to get him into trouble so we agreed to replace the pole 50/50 between the builder and us. 2800 baht for a new pole and the builder did the connections.