41 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

This is so wrong. 

There is no tendency in the west to over report. 

There is under reporting everywhere. 

Testing is limited everywhere. 

 

 

Common sense. 

 

A massively infectious virus. 

 

Very limited testing. 

 

Obviously there is underreporting here. 

 

I'm amazed that people don't get that. 

 

Imagine if they tested everyone in Thailand right now. 

 

Does anyone actually believe they wouldn't find many unknown active cases as well as many previous cases via antibody testing? 

 

That is not to say Thailand hasn't done well. They have.

 

Again the question is the level of unknown cases. We can't know without massive testing. Remember a huge percentage of cases have no or mild symptoms and no need to ever see a doctor much less enter the reporting radar. 

 

The simple point here is it's not time to abandon measures such as hand washing. mask wearing. and distancing.

 

That won't come until a vaccine is widely done. 

Wasn't it Chicken Little that said that the "the sky is falling"? With death rates <1% (mostly in elderly) the threat is overdone. I know the death rate for those with systems (hospital admits) is higher, but those with mild or no symptoms should be included in the counting. 

Hand washing, distancing and perhaps masks are OK and also help reduce other airborne infections. Handwashing is especially effective in lesseninging MRSA, in both a healthcare and community environment. 

In some areas, people who died of other causes but tested Covid19 positive have been listed COD as Covid19. Comparing death rates pre and post Covid19 would be interesting. 

1 minute ago, checkered flag said:

Wasn't it Chicken Little that said that the "the sky is falling"? With death rates <1% (mostly in elderly) the threat is overdone. I know the death rate for those with systems (hospital admits) is higher, but those with mild or no symptoms should be included in the counting. 

Hand washing, distancing and perhaps masks are OK and also help reduce other airborne infections. Handwashing is especially effective in lesseninging MRSA, in both a healthcare and community environment. 

In some areas, people who died of other causes but tested Covid19 positive have been listed COD as Covid19. Comparing death rates pre and post Covid19 would be interesting. 

Better chicken little than ostrich head in the sand. 

On 5/21/2020 at 12:08 PM, webfact said:

He went to have a haircut at a salon

Barber must have sneezed on him. Or they got into a good conversation and dropped their mask. ???? 

20 hours ago, Krataiboy said:

....time for us to get back to a normal life - both for the sake of our physical and mental health and social cohesion and to kickstart the flagging economy.

 

There is no credible evidence that ongoing lockdowns, curfews and other socially disruptive restrictions do more than slow down the pandemic's progress. Indeed, some experts believe they they are likely to cause even more deaths and serious health problems than COVID 19.

 

And what is the point of keeping schools closed when most young children who catch the virus suffer only very mild symptoms or none, and are unlikely to infect any adults they mix with?

 

Any suggestion that the draconian measures imposed during the current health crisis be continued as part of the "new normal" must be firmly rejected, as must mandatory vaccination and any other further infringements of human rights. Four months of medical martial law is more than enough.

Spot on Krataboy!!!