Tears and heartbreak as flight ban keeps farang-Thai families apart

[Mattd]

Just now, Mr Meeseeks said:

You didn't think of your family when you chose to go back to work?

 

Knowing full well that you may not be able to return to them due to the ongoing crisis?

I am not away from my family, I work in an office here in Thailand and have done for many years thanks!

 

But on behalf of those that did have to leave their families, perhaps read the previous posts to get the answers.

[Wiggy]

4 hours ago, Don Mega said:

Imagine the outrage if Thailand refused entry to its own people, Iam sure the idea was tabled though and got voted down !!

The same as the outrage of those non-Thais unable to be with their families I imagine. 

[traveller101]

12 minutes ago, Don Mega said:

Thailand does not have enough quarantine beds for repatriated nationals to spend 14 days in so why should the Thai government ad to that burden just so old matey can get his end wet and give the kids a cuddle.

Let me rephrase - the Thai Government does not want to spend money on quarantine facilities. They prefer spending the money here.

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/category/news/business/

In further developments the Government signed a deal with various Hotels to to use their idling facilities as quarantine facilities. The arising cost are to be paid by the users of those facilities. And still no change in the policy of excluding all foreigners - incl. people married to Thais and have children!

 

[Mattd]

2 minutes ago, HashBrownHarry said:

I understand how the offshore industry works but thanks for the lesson anyway.

 

I was offshore at the time all this started, people had a couple of days to make the decision whether to stay or go home to their families, i chose the latter, turns out it was a good choice.

Good and I am glad for you, you above all, should understand that not all people will be given that choice.

[Mr Meeseeks]

11 minutes ago, Zikomat said:

Thai women love money, but they don’t love for money.

 

Bingo.

[Paiman]

4 hours ago, Don Mega said:

Meetings can be done online.

Find another employer if they insists on international travel for work commitments...... or travel knowing you cannot return (and then don't start crying on social media about it).

You are so far from reality with your *well meant constructive criticism*. Back to bed, the wife is calling. 

[Don Mega]

6 minutes ago, digger70 said:

No one said that one is Struggling with this concept.   You are the One who said that .So You Must be struggling with the Concept. ???? 

no struggle here at all, i praise the Thai government for putting their own first.

[Chris Owen]

Begs the question what is the point in having the correct visa a work permit and a yellow house book.

 

[Don Mega]

7 minutes ago, JackThompson said:

If you have Thai family and stay here for years w/o incident, yes, you should get PR.  Not the right to vote - just "be here" with your family.

what does PR give a foreigner that a non immigrant visa does not ?

[Don Mega]

8 minutes ago, Wiggy said:

The same as the outrage of those non-Thais unable to be with their families I imagine. 

they made their bed.

[Don Mega]

8 minutes ago, traveller101 said:

Let me rephrase - the Thai Government does not want to spend money on quarantine facilities. They prefer spending the money here.

 

 

Why should the Thai government pay the bills for a non citizens quarantine ?

[cyril sneer]

5 hours ago, BritManToo said:

"Tears and heartbreak as flight ban keeps farang-Thai families apart"

 

The tears will only happen if the white guy stops sending money!

 

Was literally about to post this 555

[Mr Meeseeks]

2 minutes ago, Don Mega said:

what does PR give a foreigner that a non immigrant visa does not ?

The ability to sit on the board of a Thai public company.

 

Voting rights as a shareholder in a public Thai company etc.

[traveller101]

28 minutes ago, Don Mega said:

VAT on a small bottle of Chang from the 7-11 aint what I would call "paying taxes".

I'm not talking about paying taxes - I'm talking about footing the bill for the quarantine. Is that clear enough?

[johnray]

I agree with the Thai embassy.  These people could have a virus and just put more strain on the country.  It is best that they go home or stay where they are.

[Don Mega]

Just now, HenryC said:

How about for work idiot.

 

 

A real family man would get a job locally to support his family rather than leave the to it for extended periods of time to work abroad.

[Mr Meeseeks]

13 minutes ago, Mattd said:

I am not away from my family, I work in an office here in Thailand and have done for many years thanks!

 

But on behalf of those that did have to leave their families, perhaps read the previous posts to get the answers.

You are missing the point again and again.

 

Nobody had to leave.

 

They made the choice to leave.

[Don Mega]

1 minute ago, traveller101 said:

I'm not talking about paying taxes - I'm talking about footing the bill for the quarantine. Is that clear enough?

Crystal clear, why should the Thai government have to shoulder that cost for an alien ?

[spiekerjozef]

Same for everybody, stop whining...

Only a few months and they already heartbroken...

[Don Mega]

1 minute ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

You are missing the point again and again.

 

Nobody had to leave.

 

They made the choice to leave.

Just like they leave (voluntarily) for extended periods of time often, they made the choice but are now all butthurt the government has told em to stay away...

 

Cry me a river !!

Edited May 23, 2020 by Don Mega

[JackThompson]

6 minutes ago, Don Mega said:

no struggle here at all, i praise the Thai government for putting their own first.

But they don't.  If they did, I would back them 100%.  They could let all their citizens come back this week, if they prioritized that, then let all the non-Thai families members in next. 

Not enough buses, hotel-rooms, cops or military-conscripts to enforce the quantine?  What's the hold-up?

 

6 minutes ago, Don Mega said:

what does PR give a foreigner that a non immigrant visa does not ?

The right to be in the country.  A "non-immigrant visa" is just a temporary stay, which can be revoked with rule-changes - both "official" ones and "unpublished" ones - any year w/o warning.

 

6 minutes ago, Don Mega said:

Why should the Thai government pay the bills for a non citizens quarantine ?

Because they are married to Thais.  But, as said previously, foreigners are offering to pay.

[digger70]

9 minutes ago, Don Mega said:

no struggle here at all, i praise the Thai government for putting their own first.

Of course you would with you're attitude. 

[wwest5829]

5 hours ago, Don Mega said:

And there's the elephant in the room.

Come on. Now you are trolling. One guy posted going to his parent's funeral. Another was with his Thai family on vacation. There are many variables and that is a problem for "one size fits all". Infection rate is not 100%. Still, caution, quarantine, testing steps can deal responsibly with returning non-Thai Spouses, children, long term retirees who have roots here. I want to protect your health as much as you do but I think our health can be protected by using reasonable steps.

[fredwiggy]

Just now, Don Mega said:

A real family man would get a job locally to support his family rather than leave the to it for extended periods of time to work abroad.

Like I mentioned before, there are only a few jobs a falang can do. Any labor jobs are saved for the nationals. A real family man does what they have to to provide. If that means staying away for awhile, so be it. Teaching English, scuba diving, internet work and having a Thai wife's name on a business is all there is, as far as I've ever heard. I help my family here with farm work but they only pay I receive is somtam. noodle or Mom's fish. I'm happy with that.

[Rod the Sod]

Just now, Don Mega said:

Are either of you Thai nationals ?

It makes zero difference, we are still people and we are married together. I am on a retirement visa and this is our main residence. Our home is in Bangkok. That's it. If Thailand doesn't acknowledge people in our situation they should not market a "retirement visa".

[Paiman]

4 hours ago, Don Mega said:

Iam actually, missus is out by the pool cooking my breakfast on the BBQ.

 

life is great, was upset I could not go home to my Uncles funeral though.

May be off topic, you blow yourself some kisses in the morning seeing yourself in the mirror?

 

Most of your comments here are so far from reality. Many other governments do actually care about families, even if there is an expat part of it. Ivory tower view. Are you part of the smug junta?

[Don Mega]

1 minute ago, JackThompson said:

But they don't.  If they did, I would back them 100%.  They could let all their citizens come back this week, if they prioritized that, then let all the non-Thai families members in next. 

 

Are they denying entry to Thai citizens ?

 

 

 

 

[moe666]

One problem getting back some airlines have stopped service. A friend who works in Mozambique is stuck there with his wife and kids, she is Thai. They want to come and visit but they have a ban on travel from Mozambique and Thailnd and airlines are not flying. 

[HenryC]

9 minutes ago, Don Mega said:

Why should the Thai government pay the bills for a non citizens quarantine ?

Not suggesting that they do. There was an article a couple of days ago for VIP quarantine. Hotel, tests inclusive package.

 

If a Thai can do that then why not a farang with family? what's the difference if will to pay.

[JackThompson]

37 minutes ago, fraggleRock said:

If you have a work permit and pay taxes? - I think the fact your not a Thai national may have something to do with it, just look at how Australia are not discriminating - one rule for all, you all pay.... from my understanding - feel free to correct me...

I do have a work-permit and pay taxes here, now.  This made no improvement dealing with immigration, though - just adds more paperwork hurdles.  As to taxes, we USAs even have to pay if we don't live there - same as China and North Korea (I think the only others). 

I have not lived/worked as a foreign-national in Austraila, but I doubt their immigration dept is run based on an agent/evelope racket, which would constitute felony offenses in the USA.  It's the same with many other govt-departments, which operate the same way against Thais.  Ask some about the land-dept, when they buy/sell/transfer.   Those are the ones to which the "complaining and finger pointing" is well-deserved.

Edited May 23, 2020 by JackThompson