Change is a comin

[Brunolem]

22 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Care to expand on your "The most hated generation ever to walk this planet".  You sound like a very judgmental person whose beliefs and values do not line up with what the real world is all about.  Without the Boomer generation, then your generation would not have the computers invented and the internet which is just one of the many contributions, 

I am a boomer, born right in the middle of the boom, but I am also well aware of what my generation has done.

 

First it didn't invent computers, or anything significant for that matter.

 

Computers were made possible thanks to the discoveries linked to quantum theory, around the 1920s, with the first machines appearing by the end of WWII.

 

Boomers were hippies in the 60s and 70s.

 

Then in the 80s they became golden boys, and came up with their only significant, and disastrous, creations: the financialization and globalization of the economy.

 

Also, from the 80s on, they released the vast majority of the toxic emissions and poisons that have contaminated our soils, waters and atmosphere to this day.

 

Under their enlightened guidance, inequalities have reached new heights, while education and morality have reached new lows.

 

As for the internet, there is not much to be proud of, considering how it has zombified a large part of the population in just a few years, while contributing to the restriction of freedom of expression thanks to the very few monopolies that rule the web.

 

Now in 2020 the boomers are actively working on the final destruction of the remnants of what was a quite wonderful society before they took charge.

 

By 2030, most of them will be gone, but not after having left the world in ruins...

 

[ThailandRyan]

21 minutes ago, mr mr said:

you also created many of the issues facing our planet today. you also have the money and knowledge to fix ALL of these problems yet keep hoarding it.

 

i am 43 in great shape and health with loads of patience for that long wait. it will be a huge relief.

Good on you hope you do not have to wait until we collapse the whole world and universe according to you....

[hotandsticky]

47 minutes ago, mr mr said:

 

 

the boomer generation will go down in history as one of the most hated ever to walk this planet. 

 

 

 

By the likes of you perhaps.

 

Not by me.

[hotandsticky]

4 minutes ago, Brunolem said:

I am a boomer, born right in the middle of the boom, but I am also well aware of what my generation has done.

 

First it didn't invent computers, or anything significant for that matter.

 

Computers were made possible thanks to the discoveries linked to quantum theory, around the 1920s, with the first machines appearing by the end of WWII.

 

Boomers were hippies in the 60s and 70s.

 

Then in the 80s they became golden boys, and came up with their only significant, and disastrous, creations: the financialization and globalization of the economy.

 

Also, from the 80s on, they released the vast majority of the toxic emissions and poisons that have contaminated our soils, waters and atmosphere to this day.

 

Under their enlightened guidance, inequalities have reached new heights, while education and morality have reached new lows.

 

As for the internet, there is not much to be proud of, considering how it has zombified a large part of the population in just a few years, while contributing to the restriction of freedom of expression thanks to the very few monopolies that rule the web.

 

Now in 2020 the boomers are actively working on the final destruction of the remnants of what was a quite wonderful society before they took charge.

 

By 2030, most of them will be gone, but not after having left the world in ruins...

 

 

 

 

I am also a Boomer but unlike you I apologise for nothing.

[19DL86]

45 minutes ago, stevenl said:

So nothing has changed. When we were young the elders were complaining about the youth, and now we're older we are complaining about the youth.

 

BTW, if you were anti establishment, where are the Sex Pistols in your rockband overview?

It's not so much about my Dads generation and what they thought of mine.  What we re really talking about here started in the US after WW2 with the Motorcyle gangs and then the Beatnicks.  Further influenced with the Hippies. 

 

My Dads generation fought in wars they done what was "expected of them" and what they were told.  Often with the muzzled of their NCOs revolver press to their head, true in the case of my father on D-Day.

 

The Sex Pistols - Yes you're right, as soon as I d written and posted my comment I realised the Pistols were missing.  But to be fair it wasn't my Top 10.  And the three bands I named were far more political in their messages, better musicians and lyrics too.  Plus they stood the test of time and remain inspirational to many generations 30-40 years on.

 

The Sex Pistols were a gimmick a "one trick pony" - John Lydon done far greater works with PIL and after.  A true musical genius and a zeitgeist.

 

I could have rattled of The Dead Kennedys, Crass, The Levelers and Gil Scott Heron.....we d be here all day.

[Canuck1966]

Backpacking is looking like one thing that will really struggle

More expensive flights and dorms could well be a thing of the past

Those gap years will have to be spent working instead 

 

[BigStar]

3 hours ago, kingstonkid said:

As a FARANG all we can do is sit on the sidelines put our feet up, grab a couple of pops and some popcorn and watch.

Well, no. We can quaff a few Changs, maybe toke some good weed, and kick back at the ol' keyboard to peck out flatulent Global Prophecies on an internet forum.

[Lacessit]

1 hour ago, mr mr said:

this can't happen fast enough. 

Really. Just throw wisdom and experience out with the bathwater. What assurances can you give me you'll do better?

[Lacessit]

Adapt or die has been the mantra for most of human history. This epoch is no different.

[frantick]

1 hour ago, mr mr said:

you also created many of the issues facing our planet today. you also have the money and knowledge to fix ALL of these problems yet keep hoarding it.

 

i am 43 in great shape and health with loads of patience for that long wait. it will be a huge relief.

Daddy issues, huh?

 

Generations are a product of their time. Had you been born a boomer, you'd have done exactly the same.

[holy cow cm]

Things are definitely hitting the next control crescendo with having any freedom of privacy at the point of being totally lost never to come back ever again. Time to step to the left a little bit making a best you can back up plan. I understand they will want all of our commoner's info, but I am not willing to give them all of me. I will definitely find alternatives ways to slip by. 

[mr mr]

1 hour ago, frantick said:

Daddy issues, huh?

 

Generations are a product of their time. Had you been born a boomer, you'd have done exactly the same.

actually i could have my dad chime in if you like ? he knows what they have done. 

[mr mr]

1 hour ago, hotandsticky said:

 

 

 

I am also a Boomer but unlike you I apologise for nothing.

no one is asking you to apologize. simply understand what you have done and at least try to remedy it. the mindset of the new generations don't think like you guys do. an evolution of thinking away from the world that got us into this mess in the first place is underway.

 

the age of information has changed everything. you cannot compare this time to any other in the past due to that. at no time in human history has so much been available to all at tip of their fingers. think of the amount of information and knowledge accessible now in comparison to you guys when you were young. 

 

all of what has been happening over the last 50 years is well documented and will stand the test of time through history. this is why i make the comment about being a truly despised generation. in the future the selfishness of the boomer generation will overshadow your accomplishments i'm afraid. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Puchaiyank]

I suspect there is no worry at the top about the next election...the winners at the highest levels have likely been determined already...

[nauseus]

4 hours ago, Matzzon said:

Have you ever tried your luck as a professional doomsday prophet?

Oh, I´m sorry. I forgot, there is no professionals in that area. My bad, mate!

Several make quite a few bucks on TV in the southern US.

[nauseus]

2 hours ago, mr mr said:

you also created many of the issues facing our planet today. you also have the money and knowledge to fix ALL of these problems yet keep hoarding it.

 

i am 43 in great shape and health with loads of patience for that long wait. it will be a huge relief.

Yes, Greta. Not long to wait.

[Vigilante]

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Edited May 24, 2020 by Vigilante

[nauseus]

2 minutes ago, Vigilante said:

Samsara will never 'work'

You should all have learned the lesson already, being old codgers.

Humanity is lurching fro crisis to crisis since day one.

We try to patch up the dam but more holes are opening

 

No political/economic system will ever work

It's baked into the cake.

 

So it's back to Tribal Council to see who gets the chop, then? 

[NotYourBusiness]

4 hours ago, ezzra said:

Nah.. in time the Covid fiasco will be but a memory like the previous others viruses, pandemics and what'not that "shook the world" and now no one hardly remember what they were...

Wishful thinking. What business owner will invest capital and resources knowing he can be shut down on a whim and for an indeterminate time, until it is "safe"? Any volunteers? Businesses are NOT coming back.

[tribalfusion001]

In most western democracies most things will return to normal as the populations won't tolerate control. Places like Thailand will just get worse, no protests, no free thinking, maybe complain to themselves, but blindly obey the dictats.

[Walker88]

I agree with the OP that CV-19 has changed the world...for at least a generation. I might have a different view on some things, so here goes:

 

-Fear of contagion will eventually dissipate (~2 years), but xenophobia will stick around for a lot longer than fear of those who look like you; outsiders, however, are "bad"

-Globalization is DEAD. Maximizing domestic employment and guaranteeing supply chains are the new mantras of mercantilism

-Leaders will become enamored of their new power to control, and it will take folks in the street to stop the creep toward authoritarianism

-Export-based economies are up the proverbial creek without even the arms to hold the paddle they don't have

-Labor will become increasingly obviated as business owners want to be able to produce even if "people" have to shelter in place; automation soars

-International relations will grow more tense, and a couple of brush wars are likely, maybe even a big one

-Int'l tourism will be half of what it was in 2015, and stay low for decades

-Those who invent, innovate and discover will try to capture more of the benefits, refusing and fighting tech transfer and intellectual property theft

-Per the above, countries whose strategy has been cheap labor and exports will become the new "Failed States"

-Internally, nations will battle between those who champion "help the less fortunate" vs those who say "let the weak die; they cost too much"; we're likely to become a much colder world as everyone for himself reigns supreme

-Strong nations will return to Colonial/Imperialist ways and simply take needed resources from those who can't really defend themselves

 

All in all, I don't think what's coming is pretty. Weaknesses have been exposed, and self-interest will come to rule the day.

[Matzzon]

36 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Several make quite a few bucks on TV in the southern US.

Oh, yes of course. I was talking about the rest of the world, that lives inside the boundaries of the thing called reality. That excludes Dr. Trump territory.

[Mavideol]

5 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

I thought you were discussing Change....you know

5 baht, 10 baht, and the satang.....

so did I and that's why I stop reading after 4-5 paragraphs

[frantick]

1 hour ago, mr mr said:

actually i could have my dad chime in if you like ? he knows what they have done. 

So, two English teachers in the family?

[Skallywag]

5 hours ago, kingstonkid said:

We have come to a time that the BOOMER GEN is dying off. 

Yes, Covid-19 is making sure of that. 

[mr mr]

17 minutes ago, frantick said:

So, two English teachers in the family?

a mechanical engineer i'm afraid. mom was a school teacher though so you are close. good try sport. 

 

i assume you were saying that i am an english teacher ya ? i am 43 and retired. 

[mr mr]

1 hour ago, nauseus said:

Yes, Greta. Not long to wait.

hahah you mean that kid and all her nonsense ? please. 

[batata]

don't want to sound stupid but do have a question, what's your point ?

[nauseus]

10 minutes ago, mr mr said:

hahah you mean that kid and all her nonsense ? please. 

Please what? You sound just like her.

[talahtnut]

Purchasing powers of dollars, pounds, euros

are set to run downhill at a rapidly accelerating

pace. Covid is a warm up exercise in absolute

control with a massive transfer of wealth to

the rich and the state.

Hunger Games, Logan's Run, Chicken Run

combined. Or....

Edited May 24, 2020 by talahtnut
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