Why is 7 Eleven requiring customers to register before entry?

[EVENKEEL]

37 minutes ago, newatthis said:

Kuhn Dhanin will be sleepless.

True if only one man, but if I can't be bothered, neither can 100's of 1000's of other customers.

[tribalfusion001]

This is nothing compared to the tracking bracelet that tourists will have to wear for the duration of their holiday.

[EVENKEEL]

8 minutes ago, bkk6060 said:

OMG 2 people waiting the end of the world.

It is a convenience store.  Lose business to who?

Just about every shop, market, mall are doing the same or will be.

Food Mart is doing the same thing where I am.

Maybe some people just need to grow up and adjust to the reality of what is now and the future.

Don't assume, business for independent shops will increase. That's how business works.

[OneeyedJohn]

I am still not understanding how this works.

For example , unlike my wife I only have wifi on my phone when at home, otherwise not, unless it is a place I frequent socially.

So even if Line QR scan works on my phone at Big C, how does anyone know>

Can I just point my phone and pretend I have done something, as I am sure the kids in attendance are not going to snatch my phone and double check what I have or have not done.

 

Seriously, I just don't get it.

 

If I have the virus and go to the mall, and a week later go to hospital because I am sick, what does doing a QR scan a week earlier do to save lives.

[utalkin2me]

1 hour ago, tlock said:

if it saves just one life, it will be worth it.

 

People have to interact when you setup these scanning and signing in stations. People have to touch pens and congregate in a specific area.

 

What if all this ends up killing one person? I think the odds are about as good for that. 

[bkk6060]

7 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

Don't assume, business for independent shops will increase. That's how business works.

I appreciate your response.

Yes, some independent shops but most do not have the variety that 7-11 does.

I am just saying, I think we mostly need to adjust to the new rules.

It is not fun I agree.  But, at least we are able to go out and shop and not on a ventilator or dead.

So, for me a few rules and patience I can deal with it.

[GroveHillWanderer]

13 minutes ago, OneeyedJohn said:

If I have the virus and go to the mall, and a week later go to hospital because I am sick, what does doing a QR scan a week earlier do to save lives.

It's called contact tracing.  Once it's known that you have the virus, the system will send a notification to anyone who was in the same place at the same time as you during the period when you were potentially infectious and those people can then be tested (a test which is then free, by the way) to see if they have picked up the virus from you or not, as the case may be.

 

It's how countries like South Korea have been able to contain the spread of the virus.

Edited May 24, 2020 by GroveHillWanderer

[tribalfusion001]

4 minutes ago, bkk6060 said:

But, at least we are able to go out and shop and not on a ventilator or dead.

So, for me a few rules and patience I can deal with it.

That's a bit dramatic with only 56 dead in a country. Not one country in the world has their health system completely failed yet, unless your in one of the narrow special categories then you ain't going to die.

[tribalfusion001]

Just now, GroveHillWanderer said:

It's called contact tracing.  Once it's known that you have the virus, the system will send a notification to anyone who was in the same place at the same time as you during the period when you were potentially infectious and those people can then be tested to see if they have picked up the virus from you or not, as the case may be.

 

It's how countries like South Korea have been able to contain the spread of the virus.

They use an app for contact tracing not QR code. It's not the black death, it's just mass hysteria being whipped up.

[DavisH]

If its put in place to <deleted> off a few moaning farangs, I'm all for it.

They can find another country. Noone will miss them.  

[Ventenio]

just sign your name Jenny Jenny and write 8675309, 8675309.......

 

someone will get it

 

good luck trying to read my handwriting.....i did sign, not print.   they were looking at me.  OMG, knock knock

Edited May 24, 2020 by Ventenio

[GroveHillWanderer]

1 minute ago, tribalfusion001 said:

They use an app for contact tracing not QR code. It's not the black death, it's just mass hysteria being whipped up.

It's not an app, it's a web-based system. After you scan the QR code, the link it generates takes you to a web site where your details are entered into the system, along with your time of entry and (if you check out as you should) exit from the facility. I've used the system about half a dozen times already.

 

The main problem I've noticed is that although they insist on you checking in, they don't bother in the slightest about the checkout. So the period of time that you are inside the shop is not accurately recorded.

[jvs]

7 minutes ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

Once it's known that you have the virus,

That will be after they put you in IC,a little late.

Our local Makro last week required me to sign in(almost never carry my phone)

Ok, did that and 3 minutes later left the store again.

Went back a few days ago this time carrying my phone to install the app.

Guess what ?it was not required anymore.No one there to check and when i asked the guard he just looked at me and waived me on.

Consistency any one?

[lopburi3]

1.  App registration using QR scan set up to be voluntary by government unless things have changed over weekend.  Expect some stores may be making there own rules to obtain better reviews as app also allows feedback on store conditions.

2.  If unable use phone/QR code - manual write ledger an option.

3.  Files are supposed to be removed after 60 days (ledger files probably not - cold callers will love em.

4.  As said it to enable tracing of those in contact with known cases and for that it can be helpful. 

[GroveHillWanderer]

I'm not sure why everybody keeps referring to an app. It's not an app and nothing is installed on your phone - it simply takes you to a website where your details are recorded.

 

Edit: At least based on my experience of every shop I've been in where they've used it.

Edited May 24, 2020 by GroveHillWanderer

[Curt1591]

2 hours ago, BadSpottedDog said:

I'm assuming this is COVID related, but noticed that none of the other stores (Tesco or Mini C) are doing this. There is a sign posted that says "Required by government".

The sign is correct. Many Big C's and Tesco's are doing it already.

The 7/11 had my wife sign in. But, upon leaving, the employee graciously wrote in her departure time for her.  

[lopburi3]

6 minutes ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

I'm not sure why everybody keeps referring to an app. It's not an app and nothing is installed on your phone - it simply takes you to a website where your details are recorded.

 

Edit: At least based on my experience of every shop I've been in where they've used it.

True no app on phone but there is an app/application/program at the other end - QR code is unique to the store involved and takes you to the website app to enter data and it is stored there.

Edited May 24, 2020 by lopburi3

[GroveHillWanderer]

10 minutes ago, jvs said:

That will be after they put you in IC,a little late.

 

I wasn't offering any opinion on whether this will be an effective system or whether it's even really necessary in the first place given the low number of cases (apparently) around in the country. I was simply answering the question of what good could a QR code do in saving lives (theoretically) if someone subsequently came down with the virus.

[mr mr]

1 hour ago, tribalfusion001 said:

Brainwashed.

remember the bus scene at the end of swordfish ? the speech from travolta to wolverine. 

[Shot]

This has been going on in Phuket for a few weeks. I like to keep it loose.

 

Ben Dover

 

Mike Oxsmall

 

Mike Hunt

[mr mr]

2 hours ago, Keyser Soze666 said:

Man, the world has seriously changed hasn't it, and this is in a country now reporting single digit or zero daily cases, that's cases not deaths.

 

This is all just freaking me out now and finding it really hard to see any positives anywhere. It's also clear that gov's are now using this situation to gain more control over people. Awful, awful times. 

may i offer a soothing melody to help you through this. 

 

 

[GroveHillWanderer]

10 minutes ago, lopburi3 said:

True no app on phone but there is an app/application/program at the other end - QR code is unique to the store involved and takes you to the website app to enter data and it is stored there.

If it takes you to a website where are your details are entered into a database and  where there is some code running behind that which will handle notifications then it doesn't meet the definition of an app as far as I understand it:

 

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A mobile application, also referred to as a mobile app or simply an app, is a computer program or software application designed to run on a mobile device such as a phone, tablet, or watch. 

 

Edited May 24, 2020 by GroveHillWanderer

[Denim]

1 hour ago, tlock said:

if it saves just one life, it will be worth it.

 

 

As long as its not Prayuths

[Yorkshire Tea]

Lazada must be laughing all the way to the bank ????

[redwood1]

1 minute ago, mr mr said:

may i offer a soothing melody to help you through this. 

 

 

Yes we have a lot to look forward too I can hardly wait to get microchipped ......Freedom is so old fashion.....Being watched 24/7 is the new cool..... 

[tribalfusion001]

6 minutes ago, mr mr said:

remember the bus scene at the end of swordfish ? the speech from travolta to wolverine. 

Nope, I don't, probably only seen the movie once or maybe twice.

[mr mr]

2 minutes ago, tribalfusion001 said:

Nope, I don't, probably only seen the movie once or maybe twice.

 

[lopburi3]

4 minutes ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

then it doesn't meet the definition of an app as far as I understand it:

 

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A mobile application, also referred to as a mobile app or simply an app, is a computer program or software application designed to run on a mobile device such as a phone, tablet, or watch. 

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App is short for "application," which is the same thing as a software program. While an app may refer to a program for any hardware platform, it is most often used to describe programs for mobile devices, such as smartphones and tablets.

 

https://techterms.com/definition/app

[Brigand]

The fascist government are just taking a lead from their Chinese masters and copying others as a way out of this crisis because they haven't a clue. You can see it and this Big Brother fascist tracking nonsense is straight out of communist China's handbook ... bet it's a Chinese software app that they've been given, just been rebranded, as nothing made here could possibly work in such a short space of time. Bet the Chinese government has access to the tracking info through a back door in the software for future reference.

[tlock]

7 minutes ago, redwood1 said:

Yes we have a lot to look forward too I can hardly wait to get microchipped ......Freedom is so old fashion.....Being watched 24/7 is the new cool..... 

like I always say- if you can't beat em- join em.

 

safety first!