Six-month-old baby dies in car accident

[webfact]

Six-month-old baby dies in car accident

By The Nation

 

 

A six-month-old baby girl was killed when the car she was travelling in crashed into an electric post in Chonburi province on Saturday (May 30).

 

The baby reportedly went flying out of the car through the windscreen.

 

The parents Suksan Boontemphrom, 31, and Kanlaya Jankha, 28, had taken their baby to see a doctor in Sri Racha district.

 

On their way back, it started to rain.

 

The car was reportedly going at a high speed when it went out of control and hit the electric post at 10.15am.

 

The parents were taken to Phyathai Sriracha Hospital where the baby “Blue” was declared dead.

 

Suksan had recovered consciousness on Sunday but is unable to tell his wife about the fate of their baby since they both are still in shock.

 

Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30388830

 

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[torturedsole]

4 minutes ago, webfact said:

The car was reportedly going at a high speed when it went out of control and hit the electric post at 10.15am.

Unsecured baby the first casualty.  

[JensenZ]

They do sell infant carrier seats in Thailand. After spending a lot of money on their shiny new cars, they can't shell out the 10k baht of so for a decent baby seat?

 

I'm going to put this up as a community service, in case any other idiots are carrying unsecured babies in their cars.

 

https://cybexthailand.com/car-seats/

 

Now, what to do about all the other idiots that carry babies in their arms while riding motorcycles? You'll often see a mother riding with one hand while she carries an infant in the other.

 

[Chelseafan]

I'm having to train my mother-in-law to wear her seatbelt to the point that I won't drive until she has done so. She's in her 60's for God sake. What example does that set for our youngest!

 

 

[Trillian]

58 minutes ago, JensenZ said:

Now, what to do about all the other idiots that carry babies in their arms while riding motorcycles? You'll often see a mother riding with one hand while she carries an infant in the other.

 

Using the word "idiots" to describe those people is, in many cases, perhaps too harsh, I'd prefer to call them unfortunate or sad. The 17 or 19 year old mother who has no education, very little schooling, no training in other than sweeping a road, has no money or proper home and probably has no husband to support her....how else is she going to travel the couple of miles she has to in order to get food, or do some menial task for almost no money, or take her baby to the free clinic? She has no choice and as dangerous as it is, she has no alternative, it's a bi-product of poverty. If she woke up one morning and said to herself, I think I'll go to Paragon today to do some shopping and I'll take the bike so I can feel the wind in my hair, then she's an idiot, mostly though, such people don't exist.

[smedly]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

The parents were taken to Phyathai Sriracha Hospital where the baby “Blue” was declared dead.

from there I hope they are taken to jail

 

RIP

[Wiggy]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

The car was reportedly going at a high speed when it went out of control and hit the electric post at 10.15am.

It’s not the fault of the car. It should read: 

 

The driver was reportedly driving too fast for the conditions when he lost control and hit the electric post at 10.15am.

[JensenZ]

58 minutes ago, Trillian said:

Using the word "idiots" to describe those people is, in many cases, perhaps too harsh, I'd prefer to call them unfortunate or sad. The 17 or 19 year old mother who has no education, very little schooling, no training in other than sweeping a road, has no money or proper home and probably has no husband to support her....how else is she going to travel the couple of miles she has to in order to get food, or do some menial task for almost no money, or take her baby to the free clinic? She has no choice and as dangerous as it is, she has no alternative, it's a bi-product of poverty. If she woke up one morning and said to herself, I think I'll go to Paragon today to do some shopping and I'll take the bike so I can feel the wind in my hair, then she's an idiot, mostly though, such people don't exist.

I would have liked to use a harsher adjective to describe these people. You don't even need an education to know it's very dangerous. The police should be more involved in stopping this kind of behaviour. It's hard to see a baby through tinted glass, but quite easy on a motorcycle.

 

Any mother that can afford a motorcycle is not at the level of poverty you describe and has options. There is absolutely no excuse to carry a baby in one arm on a motorcycle.

[mike787]

Senseless loss....If anyone wants to start a Gofund for the family, I'll chip in to save them.  I only need to know where to send some baht.  RIP.

[Trillian]

25 minutes ago, JensenZ said:

I would have liked to use a harsher adjective to describe these people. You don't even need an education to know it's very dangerous. The police should be more involved in stopping this kind of behaviour. It's hard to see a baby through tinted glass, but quite easy on a motorcycle.

 

Any mother that can afford a motorcycle is not at the level of poverty you describe and has options. There is absolutely no excuse to carry a baby in one arm on a motorcycle.

Some dangerous things are instinctive, in this day and age in Thailand a motorcycle is not considered that dangerous by local people, it does take education to understand that, even amongst Westerners. And you presume the lady owned the motorbike, it's as likely as not that it was borrowed.

 

I spend some of my free time helping a charity organisation that supports young women and girls from impoverished backgrounds, you would be surprised the lengths that many will go in order to survive. Westerners see some elements of that in the sex industry but that's just scratching the surface of the problem. At the heart of the matter is poverty and education, for most of them high risk activities is a part of everyday survival and unless you've either been there yourself or seen it first hand, it's very hard to imagine the extent of the problem. 

 

I was watching some Burmese cut down trees near our offices and there was one young female worker who had two small children with her as she worked, they were perhaps 3 or 4 years old. She was busy sweeping up the leaves and picking up branches as large parts of trees were falling all around and the kids were running around nearby, just being kids. Was she stupid or did she have another choice? She probably earned 300 baht a day, had no other family nearby who could baby sit and no child care facilities or creche in which to deposit the kids whilst she was at work, what other options did she have, starve?

 

Labelling somebody as stupid is a cop out, it provides an easy simple answer and means the people don't think about the problem any more, oh well, she was stupid, end of story, it doesn't however solve the problem.

Edited May 31, 2020 by Trillian

[JensenZ]

20 minutes ago, Trillian said:

Some dangerous things are instinctive, in this day and age in Thailand a motorcycle is not considered that dangerous by local people, it does take education to understand that, even amongst Westerners. And you presume the lady owned the motorbike, it's as likely as not that it was borrowed.

 

I spend some of my free time helping a charity organisation that supports young women and girls from impoverished backgrounds, you would be surprised the lengths that many will go in order to survive. Westerners see some elements of that in the sex industry but that's just scratching the surface of the problem. At the heart of the matter is poverty and education, for most of them high risk activities is a part of everyday survival and unless you've either been there yourself or seen it first hand, it's very hard to imagine the extent of the problem. 

 

I was watching some Burmese cut down trees near our offices and there was one young female worker who had two small children with her as she worked, they were perhaps 3 or 4 years old. She was busy sweeping up the leaves and picking up branches as large parts of trees were falling all around and the kids were running around nearby, just being kids. Was she stupid or did she have another choice? She probably earned 300 baht a day, had no other family nearby who could baby sit and no child care facilities or creche in which to deposit the kids whilst she was at work, what other options did she have, starve?

 

Labelling somebody as stupid is a cop out, it provides an easy simple answer and means the people don't think about the problem any more, oh well, she was stupid, end of story, it doesn't however solve the problem.

 I'm no sex tourist that has taken a casual glance at poverty as I've lived in SE Asia full time for 20 years. There is absolutely no excuse for a mother to carry a baby in one arm on a motorcycle, and it is up the police to stop these type of dangerous activities... Whether she borrows it from a friend, or owns it herself, if she is riding a motorcycle she's nowhere near the poverty level that gives her an excuse to endanger the life of her child. They can always find someone to take care of their babies if they need to go somewhere.

Edited May 31, 2020 by JensenZ

[ChipButty]

There used to be a mia farang around here with twins she would ride her bike carrying one and the other in the basket on the front.

[Bender Rodriguez]

baby car seat, nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

 

driving safely, naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

 

when is the new songkran again ?

[Darksidedude]

5 hours ago, JensenZ said:

They do sell infant carrier seats in Thailand. After spending a lot of money on their shiny new cars, they can't shell out the 10k baht of so for a decent baby seat?

 

I'm going to put this up as a community service, in case any other idiots are carrying unsecured babies in their cars.

 

https://cybexthailand.com/car-seats/

 

Now, what to do about all the other idiots that carry babies in their arms while riding motorcycles? You'll often see a mother riding with one hand while she carries an infant in the other.

 

they sell everything in Thailand its this mai pen rai attitude and lack of training, i once had a taxi come pick me up had a 1 y old in the front seat i refused to get in and lectured the driver he didn't give a <deleted> hope the kid survives

[northsouthdevide]

I hate it when I see Thai toddlers playing around the car unsecured and unrestricted. 

Its an area, just like the driver training, or lack of, that thailand lags far behind the rest of the world. 

Very sad. 

R. I. P. Little one. 

 

[essox essox]

5 hours ago, JensenZ said:

They do sell infant carrier seats in Thailand. After spending a lot of money on their shiny new cars, they can't shell out the 10k baht of so for a decent baby seat?

 

I'm going to put this up as a community service, in case any other idiots are carrying unsecured babies in their cars.

 

https://cybexthailand.com/car-seats/

 

Now, what to do about all the other idiots that carry babies in their arms while riding motorcycles? You'll often see a mother riding with one hand while she carries an infant in the other.

 

yeah and I suppose it is illegal.....BUT nothing gets done about it.....I have seen many too.....

[cardinalblue]

Is it law in thailand that age or weight must be secured in a car seat?

 

if so, wouldn’t the driver be charged with reckless driving leading to death?
 

I know the answer to that...the authorities unable, cognitively challenged, or just not willing to hold individuals accountable for their behavior....biggest issue in thailand

 

so no one should wonder why thailand truly never advances as a society....no progress ever made...but at least they are wearing their masks for a threat not present yet don’t wear masks when northern air pollution levels above 200...make sense of that one...

[mikebell]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

On their way back, it started to rain.

 

The car was reportedly going at a high speed when it went out of control

Agree with Wiggy above; the driver should be charged with culpable homicide.

[Pilotman]

5 hours ago, JensenZ said:

They do sell infant carrier seats in Thailand. After spending a lot of money on their shiny new cars, they can't shell out the 10k baht of so for a decent baby seat?

 

I'm going to put this up as a community service, in case any other idiots are carrying unsecured babies in their cars.

 

https://cybexthailand.com/car-seats/

 

Now, what to do about all the other idiots that carry babies in their arms while riding motorcycles? You'll often see a mother riding with one hand while she carries an infant in the other.

 

I totally agree , but the retailers need to make it easier to find them and buy them, including having them as op extras when they buy the car.  I don't know one single outlet within 100km of me that sells such seats. Out of sight out of mind. In any event, can you imagine Thai kids being locked into a car seat?  Most of them are either in the back of a pick up (illegal) or 3 of them with Mum on a motorbike.  You can't put a western mind set into a rural Thais head.   It will never happen. 

[Almer]

4 hours ago, Trillian said:

Using the word "idiots" to describe those people is, in many cases, perhaps too harsh, I'd prefer to call them unfortunate or sad. The 17 or 19 year old mother who has no education, very little schooling, no training in other than sweeping a road, has no money or proper home and probably has no husband to support her....how else is she going to travel the couple of miles she has to in order to get food, or do some menial task for almost no money, or take her baby to the free clinic? She has no choice and as dangerous as it is, she has no alternative, it's a bi-product of poverty. If she woke up one morning and said to herself, I think I'll go to Paragon today to do some shopping and I'll take the bike so I can feel the wind in my hair, then she's an idiot, mostly though, such people don't exist.

How true this post is, in my home country this girl would get many benefits whether she deserved them or not.

[Venom]

Again, do the parents realize that they are responsible for the baby's death? ☹️

[Almer]

4 hours ago, Wiggy said:

It’s not the fault of the car. It should read: 

 

The driver was reportedly driving too fast for the conditions when he lost control and hit the electric post at 10.15am.

Yep, don't blame the car, lack of baby restraint, or the weather,  or any bull S-it, there is only one person /thing that cost this child its whole life and he wont  learn and will do the self same thing in the wet in his next car.

[Grumpy one]

Back in 2007 a family were riding a bike, 1 kid in jammed down in front of dad, 1 being held by mum and the baby was in  a cardboard box on the rear of the bike.

The box got wet and the baby fell onto the chain.

Its sad to say but that kid fortunately died within an hour.

The parents no doubt saw no problem in what they were doing

 

[RichardColeman]

RIP to a girl born to stupid parents

[trainman34014]

9 hours ago, Chelseafan said:

I'm having to train my mother-in-law to wear her seatbelt to the point that I won't drive until she has done so. She's in her 60's for God sake. What example does that set for our youngest!

 

 

I've had the same experience ever since i've been here; not just FIL & MIL but Sisters, Brothers, Aunties and Friends.  Now my Mrs tells everyone that if they don't put on their Seatbelts nobody is going anywhere !

[trainman34014]

3 hours ago, Grumpy one said:

Back in 2007 a family were riding a bike, 1 kid in jammed down in front of dad, 1 being held by mum and the baby was in  a cardboard box on the rear of the bike.

The box got wet and the baby fell onto the chain.

Its sad to say but that kid fortunately died within an hour.

The parents no doubt saw no problem in what they were doing

 

And by now won't even remember it happening...but if they do they will blame the rain that made the box wet !

[trainman34014]

3 hours ago, Venom said:

Again, do the parents realize that they are responsible for the baby's death? ☹️

I've been to an infants funeral who died in a preventable accident. The Thai's all sitting around during the day eating their free food were yapping on not about how bad it was or how preventable it should have been or the Parents being responsible; no, they were yapping on about it was 'The Childs Time To Go' and how the Kid would be back among them as a new baby soon.   Others were just saying  'These Things Happen' and how 'Unfortunate' it was.   They will never see things in the same way as we do and if we want to try and make them do so it is like smashing our heads against a brick wall !

[Pilotman]

4 hours ago, Venom said:

Again, do the parents realize that they are responsible for the baby's death? ☹️

They are human parents, of course they will be devastated and traumatised for the rest of their lives. 

[Dumbastheycome]

9 hours ago, Trillian said:

Using the word "idiots" to describe those people is, in many cases, perhaps too harsh, I'd prefer to call them unfortunate or sad. The 17 or 19 year old mother who has no education, very little schooling, no training in other than sweeping a road, has no money or proper home and probably has no husband to support her....how else is she going to travel the couple of miles she has to in order to get food, or do some menial task for almost no money, or take her baby to the free clinic? She has no choice and as dangerous as it is, she has no alternative, it's a bi-product of poverty. If she woke up one morning and said to herself, I think I'll go to Paragon today to do some shopping and I'll take the bike so I can feel the wind in my hair, then she's an idiot, mostly though, such people don't exist.

I understand the sentiment of your comment. But there is a but !

It has not so much to do with financial poverty as it does the poverty of comprehending personal responsibility. When that lack results in tragedy it is so common to find even implausible excuses to avert responsibility. Generally speaking Thais love their children but I often comment to my wife they too often love them to death with the lack of  common sense !

[evadgib]

I have lost count of the times I have observed unsecured kids getting in to or out of cars (that are much newer than ours) during the school run, & there's quite often a toddler in pole position to become an airbag too.