Trump vows to end protests; tear gas fired on protesters near White House

[NordicDemon]

4 hours ago, CorpusChristie said:

I disagree , White kids are also told (by their parents)  to do what a Policemen says (and not to be rude)

Generally speaking, that might be true. However, statistics from the Department of Justice show that White people, more often than any other group in the U.S, are shot to death by the police. From 2017 until 2020, about 40% of those shot to death by the police were White, about 22% were Black, about 16% were Hispanics and about 22% were others. 

[lannarebirth]

55 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

There are alot of disenfranchised Americans. No doubt about that. But the black folks have it the worst. There is still rampant racism in the US and it is nowhere near a level playing field. 

 

What is the most glaring in all this is that massive amounts of white people showed up and demonstrated recently over the shutdown. No problem. They were welcomed by the cops. But, when people of color demonstrate they are all labeled rioters and terrorists. Granted there was some rioting. But most were peaceful, at least until the cops started bashing them and gassing them. Based on his recent language, how can we fairly describe the leader of the "free world"? Vicious dogs. The best armed military is coming after you! 

 the people I have seen creating the most destruction and fomenting the most fear and conflict were young White men, though some females too. Twitterwill give you a much better idea of what's going on than the mainstream news will. It may be that the revolution IS being televized.

[J Town]

8 minutes ago, NordicDemon said:

Generally speaking, that might be true. However, statistics from the Department of Justice show that White people, more often than any other group in the U.S, are shot to death by the police. From 2017 until 2020, about 40% of those shot to death by the police were White, about 22% were Black, about 16% were Hispanics and about 22% were others. 

Those are raw numbers. When you consider there are 6 times as many whites as blacks in the US, the PERCENTAGE of blacks killed is much higher.

 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/

 

From 2017 alone:

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[EVENKEEL]

Four police shot during protest in  St Louis

https://www.foxnews.com/us/4-st-louis-police-officers-shot-at-george-floyd-protests-still-taking-fire

 

How do you stop this <deleted>, some seem to think if Trump comes out and sings Kumbaya this will all end. Yeah, I don't think so, I think the time for a big stick is overdue.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/police-officers-shot-hit-by-car-in-multiple-incidents-amid-george-floyd-protests/ar-BB14UJpS

[Dumbastheycome]

When the President of a Nation that proclaims itself to be the  prime example of  democracy and  protector of that principle has to resort to  calling on it's own military  to forcefully  subdue internal civil disobedience that in various forms  has been encouraged  by that same President then the people of that  nation  need to understand what many observers outside that  Nation have long recognized !

The  naive who  have willingly swallowed  the concept rampant  monopolist capitalism versus honest enterprising commercialism sold themselves into that  45 years  back.

Bezos is now King of the USA by virtue of that  naivety and has  no responsibility  or culpability.

Should we all congratulate him  or  curse  him?

The implosion that is occurring was  inevitable.

 

 

 

[J Town]

1 minute ago, EVENKEEL said:

Four police shot during protest in  St Louis

https://www.foxnews.com/us/4-st-louis-police-officers-shot-at-george-floyd-protests-still-taking-fire

 

How do you stop this <deleted>, some seem to think if Trump comes out and sings Kumbaya this will all end. Yeah, I don't think so, I think the time for a big stick is overdue.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/police-officers-shot-hit-by-car-in-multiple-incidents-amid-george-floyd-protests/ar-BB14UJpS

Yeah, that's worked so well since the inception of slavery. They start getting uppity, break out the whip. A real olive branch has never been tried. Maybe it's time.

[spidermike007]

11 minutes ago, lannarebirth said:

 the people I have seen creating the most destruction and fomenting the most fear and conflict were young White men, though some females too. Twitterwill give you a much better idea of what's going on than the mainstream news will. It may be that the revolution IS being televized.

Yes. Likely either disenfranchised young men, hired hands of the right, or just idiots with parents who tried too hard to be their "friends". Regardless once again Trump has failed dismally. Once again he was given a golden opportunity. And instead all this coward can do is threaten young Americans with vicious dogs, all the might of the national guard and the military and other nonsensical and potentially illegal actions. All this from the deferment king, who would wet his pants if he were ever in the line of fire.  

[spidermike007]

3 minutes ago, rabas said:

The percentage of police killed by black people is also much higher. But, I would never use that fact to spread racist hatred. Both the number of blacks killed by law enforcement and the number of police killed by blacks only reflects the impoverished nature of many black communities and the failure of Democrat governments running these cities to address the problems.

 

Why must you see everything through raciest eyes?

 

I would not limit the failure to democratic governments. Republican governments are equally bankrupt, in terms of competence, ethics and morality. It is more about a totally broken nation. 

[EVENKEEL]

7 minutes ago, J Town said:

Yeah, that's worked so well since the inception of slavery. They start getting uppity, break out the whip. A real olive branch has never been tried. Maybe it's time.

What are you getting on about? So many of the troublemakers are white, you want to create racism where it doesn't exist.

[CorpusChristie]

19 minutes ago, NordicDemon said:

Generally speaking, that might be true. However, statistics from the Department of Justice show that White people, more often than any other group in the U.S, are shot to death by the police. From 2017 until 2020, about 40% of those shot to death by the police were White, about 22% were Black, about 16% were Hispanics and about 22% were others. 

As Whites make up a higher percent of the population ,more Whites should be begetting shot .

Need to get the figure up to 50 %

[CrunchWrapSupreme]

11 hours ago, Somtamnication said:

holds the bible up, click, photo taken, walks back to the WH and with bangs heard in the background, he declares himself a law and order president.

Wife and I saw this exact scene covered on the One 31 news this evening. Their anchorwoman had the same assessment, to the effect of "Go wave a Bible around? Make some threats? What's he actually doing?" They then did a split screen of a close up on his face, blah blah, with footage of the chaos playing next to him. Heh. More of the lasting impression he's left on the world stage.

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[Sujo]

Come on. We all know trump is an idiot. This is how its done...

 

Small percentage riot. Major perecentage peaceful. Trump latches on to riots and stokes the fire hoping it gets very bad.

 

He then comes in and fixes it then offers soft words and claims a success.

 

Thats all he has ever done. Wait for anger, make it worse, fix it.

 

 

[lannarebirth]

16 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Yes. Likely either disenfranchised young men, hired hands of the right, or just idiots with parents who tried too hard to be their "friends". Regardless once again Trump has failed dismally. Once again he was given a golden opportunity. And instead all this coward can do is threaten young Americans with vicious dogs, all the might of the national guard and the military and other nonsensical and potentially illegal actions. All this from the deferment king, who would wet his pants if he were ever in the line of fire.  

 I don't think they're "of the right". I think those guys on the right like to shoot people and run them over with their cars. The one's I have seen throw things through windows and spray paint things. More destruction oriented it seems.

[Sujo]

Come on. We all know trump is an idiot. This is how its done...

 

Small percentage riot. Major perecentage peaceful. Trump latches on to riots and stokes the fire hoping it gets very bad.

 

He then comes in and fixes it then offers soft words and claims a success.

 

Thats all he has ever done. Wait for anger, make it worse, fix it.

 

 

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[Opl]

4 hours ago, CorpusChristie said:

What " special privileges" do White guys get ?

white people calling the police after coming upon black people doing everyday things such as jogging, being in the park or the street, having a swim, holding a barbecue or merely gardening.

[NordicDemon]

39 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

As Whites make up a higher percent of the population ,more Whites should be begetting shot .

Need to get the figure up to 50 %

I know you're joking, of course. But if one was to include White-Hispanics in the statistics as White people, that figure already exceeds 50%. By the way, I also believe socioeconomic factors are the main reasons for the crime which various communities in the U.S are experiencing. And while racism might be one of many factors holding those communities back, I don't believe at all that racism is the main reason for inequality and poverty. Other groups of people in the country do comparably well in relation to each other, generally speaking. There are also Black people who do very well too and its middle class has been growing for a relatively long time. However, many Black people seem to suffer from a cultural problem which manifests itself in dysfunction, at least according to the Black people I know, and it creates a very poor environment for people who aspire to better themselves and improve their communities. 

[ChouDoufu]

1 hour ago, CrunchWrapSupreme said:

Wife and I saw this exact scene covered on the One 31 news this evening. Their anchorwoman had the same assessment, to the effect of "Go wave a Bible around? Make some threats? What's he actually doing?" They then did a split screen of a close up on his face, blah blah, with footage of the chaos playing next to him. Heh. More of the lasting impression he's left on the world stage.

The historic church had been damaged by fire, and Trump was eager to show that the nation's capital - and especially his own downtown swath of it - was under control.

 

There was just one problem: the throngs of protesters, who on Monday had again assembled peacefully in Lafayette Square across from the White House to protest the death of George Floyd, an unarmed black man who died in police custody in Minneapolis last week.

 

And so - shortly before the president addressed the nation from the Rose Garden at 6:43 p.m. Monday and roughly a half-hour before the District of Columbia's 7 p.m. curfew went into effect - authorities fired flash-bang shells, gas and rubber bullets into the crowd, clearing a path for Trump to visit the church immediately after his remarks.

 

https://www.adn.com/nation-world/2020/06/01/inside-the-push-to-tear-gas-protesters-ahead-of-a-presidential-photo-op/

[SinCityGr8One]

9 hours ago, bendejo said:

I think he trying to encourage these kind of guys,

 

trying to let them know the US Armed Forces will support them.

Talk about a prescription for disaster!  The military is going to target ANYONE who is armed like this on the street, open-carry laws be damned!

 

 

Nope, as most if not all are combat vets. A brother would not shoot a brother. I just take it you are not an American and don't know anything about the Second Amendment.

[Dumbastheycome]

1 hour ago, Sujo said:

Come on. We all know trump is an idiot. This is how its done...

 

Small percentage riot. Major perecentage peaceful. Trump latches on to riots and stokes the fire hoping it gets very bad.

 

He then comes in and fixes it then offers soft words and claims a success.

 

Thats all he has ever done. Wait for anger, make it worse, fix it.

 

 

When and where   the  "fix" ?

[SinCityGr8One]

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

Yes. Likely either disenfranchised young men, hired hands of the right, or just idiots with parents who tried too hard to be their "friends". Regardless once again Trump has failed dismally. Once again he was given a golden opportunity. And instead all this coward can do is threaten young Americans with vicious dogs, all the might of the national guard and the military and other nonsensical and potentially illegal actions. All this from the deferment king, who would wet his pants if he were ever in the line of fire.  

Say what you want about Trump, I don't like him either. However, this protest has morphed into Anarchy. Looting, burning, pillaging, destruction of property. It is time to drop the hammer. Even the peaceful protesters are saying it has to stop. Outside interference has made this into a mockery of the peaceful protest. 80% of those arrested were not from the area they were in. Antifa will be labelled as a Domestic Terrorist Organisation. If the Insurrection Act of 1807 is invoked, this BS will be over Nationwide in 24 hours. All those involved should make Peace with their God beforehand.

[ChouDoufu]

17 minutes ago, SinCityGr8One said:

Nope, as most if not all are combat vets. A brother would not shoot a brother. I just take it you are not an American and don't know anything about the Second Amendment.

 

who exactly are "these kind" of guys?

 

i spent a lotta time in texas, new mexico, arizona, idaho.  met plenty of states rights, 2nd amendment and militia guys.  a fair number of guys with "military experience", as in records clerks and coffee nco's, not so many combat vets.  mostly a bunch of grocery clerks doing army cosplay in the woods.

[tifino]

33 minutes ago, SinCityGr8One said:

10 hours ago, bendejo said:

I think he trying to encourage these kind of guys,

 

trying to let them know the US Armed Forces will support them.

Talk about a prescription for disaster!  The military is going to target ANYONE who is armed like this on the street, open-carry laws be damned!

 

 

Nope, as most if not all are combat vets. A brother would not shoot a brother. I just take it you are not an American and don't know anything about the Second Amendment.

... and they were considerate, by kindly only bringing along their smallest of paint ball pouches 

 

[Jingthing]

39 minutes ago, SinCityGr8One said:

Say what you want about Trump, I don't like him either. However, this protest has morphed into Anarchy. Looting, burning, pillaging, destruction of property. It is time to drop the hammer. Even the peaceful protesters are saying it has to stop. Outside interference has made this into a mockery of the peaceful protest. 80% of those arrested were not from the area they were in. Antifa will be labelled as a Domestic Terrorist Organisation. If the Insurrection Act of 1807 is invoked, this BS will be over Nationwide in 24 hours. All those involved should make Peace with their God beforehand.

Hard to believe after reading that post that you don't like him. 

[wwest5829]

11 hours ago, Tug said:

What a disgrace this man is he’s toast imo riots coast to coast 105,000 covid deaths record unemployment tear gassing folks for some bs photo op nope he’s toast come on November!!!

One can only hope.

[mlmcleod]

Trailing in the polls, Trump has decided to encourage his arc-conservative radicals to try to intimidate the protesters.  Of course, they are unlikely to be intimidated so there will be bloodshed.  Now Trump can be a hero by launching the military on the protesters to re-establish order.  Sadly, for Trump, this is completely obvious to anyone who was alive in the late 60's and early 70's when Richard Nixon used the same agenda.

 

I am sincerely concerned that anyone not related to Trump could ever vote for him!

[kingdong]

10 hours ago, samran said:

Seems they are but mere props. The don't even use them anyway. What is the point for having them?

Self defence for when law and order breaks down and the police can,t or won,t protect you.

[Throatwobbler]

4 hours ago, Chiphigh said:

What a load of nonsense. 

 

Destruction of property and looting and you bring up this as another weak deflection that had no violence or destruction. 

 

Typical leftist logic. 

 

Peaceful protest is not a problem. 

 

The instigators and vandals are, and they all need to be arrested. 

What is interesting that nowhere in your comment is there a mention of a black man being killed. Don't worry we all understand where you are coming from. Property being destroyed is far more important than a black man being killed.

[Throatwobbler]

4 hours ago, lannarebirth said:

oh, Jesus! I don't know where to start,

Well how about starting why, by your reckoning, that African Americans are not the most impoverished race in the US. You claimed that was not true. Every stat I looked at said that was false, (ok there is one race worse off but not one you mentioned in your original rant, do you know who that is?)

[Throatwobbler]

4 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

What are you getting on about? So many of the troublemakers are white, you want to create racism where it doesn't exist.

And you just encourage racism everywhere you go. Your earlier post when you were enraged and insinuated that no black man's life was worth that of a cop shows that. You applaud racism.