Gun Violence

[borracho]

Thailand is number three for murder by firearms!

Crime Statistics > Murders with firearms (per capita) by country

VIEW DATA: Totals Per capita

Definition Source Printable version

Bar Graph Map Correlations

Rank Countries Amount (top to bottom)

#1 South Africa: 0.719782 per 1,000 people

#2 Colombia: 0.509801 per 1,000 people

#3 Thailand: 0.312093 per 1,000 people

#4 Zimbabwe: 0.0491736 per 1,000 people

#5 Mexico: 0.0337938 per 1,000 people

#6 Belarus: 0.0321359 per 1,000 people

#7 Costa Rica: 0.0313745 per 1,000 people

#8 United States: 0.0279271 per 1,000 people

#9 Uruguay: 0.0245902 per 1,000 people

#10 Lithuania: 0.0230748 per 1,000 people

#11 Slovakia: 0.021543 per 1,000 people

#12 Czech Republic: 0.0207988 per 1,000 people

#13 Estonia: 0.0157539 per 1,000 people

#14 Latvia: 0.0131004 per 1,000 people

#15 Macedonia, The Former Yugoslav Republic of: 0.0127139 per 1,000 people

#16 Bulgaria: 0.00845638 per 1,000 people

#17 Portugal: 0.00795003 per 1,000 people

#18 Slovenia: 0.00596718 per 1,000 people

#19 Switzerland: 0.00534117 per 1,000 people

#20 Canada: 0.00502972 per 1,000 people

#21 Germany: 0.00465844 per 1,000 people

#22 Moldova: 0.00448934 per 1,000 people

#23 Hungary: 0.00439692 per 1,000 people

#24 Poland: 0.0043052 per 1,000 people

#25 Ukraine: 0.00368109 per 1,000 people

#26 Ireland: 0.00298805 per 1,000 people

#27 Australia: 0.00293678 per 1,000 people

#28 Denmark: 0.00257732 per 1,000 people

#29 Spain: 0.0024045 per 1,000 people

#30 Azerbaijan: 0.00227503 per 1,000 people

#31 New Zealand: 0.00173482 per 1,000 people

#32 United Kingdom: 0.00102579 per 1,000 people

Weighted average: 0.1 per 1,000 people

Keep your head down!

[mittheimp]

providing you don't deal in drugs, traffick women or act a total prat then Thailand is a as safe from shootings as nearly everywhere! (obviously that doesn't mean it can't happen!)

[sunshine13]

i think taskin inflated this numbers with his war on drugs.

[samran]

General Comment.

Lets keep this thread Thailand related, based on facts. The second this post goes off the rails, it will be closed.

[mittheimp]

Do yopu know if those statistics include either the 'war on drugs' or the problems in the south?

[MarkBKK]

Thailand is number three for murder by firearms!

Very, very old news. Also out of date (2000?). I haven't seen newer figures though. Be interesting to see the effects of the ''war'' on drugs and the recent troubles in the South.

[EDIT: Whoops. Stop for a sip of coffee and the world posts the same thing ...]

Edited April 18, 2007 by MarkBKK

[mittheimp]

however, murders using any method........ Thailand is down to a more respectable 14th It doesnt really matter what the method is, does it?

nation murder rates

[PhilHarries]

Do yopu know if those statistics include either the 'war on drugs' or the problems in the south?

I doubt if it includes Thaksin's war on drugs as they were not reported nor classified as murders but obviously the value of any set of statistics is dependant on the source.

[borracho]

General Comment.

Lets keep this thread Thailand related, based on facts. The second this post goes off the rails, it will be closed.

Seems like an off topic comment to me. Have some respect.

Go ahead and close the thread now if you're so uptight!

And there have been quite a few recent shootings.

Even foreigners are getting shot.

A bullet caught a poor new zealand lady recently in a drive by shooting.

[Mobi]

however, murders using any method........ Thailand is down to a more respectable 14th It doesnt really matter what the method is, does it?

nation murder rates

14th out of a total of 62 countries in a league table of murders per capita is not particularly respectable in my book.

[mittheimp]

however, murders using any method........ Thailand is down to a more respectable 14th It doesnt really matter what the method is, does it?

nation murder rates

14th out of a total of 62 countries in a league table of murders per capita is not particularly respectable in my book.

agreed - but better than third!

[KireB]

General Comment.

Lets keep this thread Thailand related, based on facts. The second this post goes off the rails, it will be closed.

Not very friendly, is it?

[Mobi]

however, murders using any method........ Thailand is down to a more respectable 14th It doesnt really matter what the method is, does it?

nation murder rates

14th out of a total of 62 countries in a league table of murders per capita is not particularly respectable in my book.

agreed - but better than third!

Fair enough

Incidentally, Thailand are number 6 for drug offences, but barely register for crimes of rape.

It's all a bit of a joke - I wonder where the stats come from?

[undercover]

I wonder if most of you saying dont worry about the statistics here are yanks ?

[Mobi]

I have read back through the posts and I can't see anyone who even suggested that we shouldn't worry about the statistics.

Challenge the accuracy of the stats? - yes

Not worry about them? - no sign of that.

I too thought that Mr Samran was being a tad unfriendly, but I can now see his point.

Where do you come from with this anti Yank crap?

BTW I am English, for my sins.

[samran]

General Comment.

Lets keep this thread Thailand related, based on facts. The second this post goes off the rails, it will be closed.

Not very friendly, is it?

Hey, I'm a real friendly guy!! Just trying to do everyone a favour.

As a mod, this type of thread is same-old, same-old if they aren't kept on a particularly tight leash.

Starts off innocent enough.

Someone then starts the yank bashing, introducing a very tenuous link between Thailand and certain incidents in the US.

Someone comes into defend the whatever US ammendemnt it is

Starts not being not very Thai related.

Starts getting all personal.

Lots of posts are then deleted by us mods.

We then close it.

So lets try and keep the chat/debate intelligent. Look at it this way, I'm saving the yank/brit/aussie bashing in advance. You should be thanking me bwotha.

[Mobi]

It's all a bit of a joke - I wonder where the stats come from?

SOURCE: Seventh United Nations Survey of Crime Trends and Operations of Criminal Justice Systems, covering the period 1998 - 2000 (United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime, Centre for International Crime Prevention)

Quite... but who IN THAILAND provided the UN with the Thai Stats?

The Thai Police? The Thai Justice department? And we all know how diligent and professional all those folks are, don't we?

As I said - a bit of a joke.

[Jimjim]

These stats have been hashed out on other threads many times. This is nothing new.

Turns out, it looks like the stats for murder by firearm are incorrect for Thailand. The total number of murders in Thailand on the site is listed at something like 5400. Then, you look at the firearm murder and it is 20,000 or something. So how could there be more firearm murders than total murders?

High rate of murder? Somewhat. But is it 3rd on the list for murder by firearm? Probably not, given that the statistics seem to be way off. Perhaps an extra 0 was added in and it was meant to be 2000 or so for Thailand murders by firearm.

Edited April 18, 2007 by Jimjim

[Mobi]

These stats have been hashed out on other threads many times. This is nothing new.

Turns out, it looks like the stats for murder by firearm are incorrect for Thailand. The total number of murders in Thailand on the site is listed at something like 5400. Then, you look at the firearm murder and it is 20,000 or something. So how could there be more firearm murders than total murders?

High rate of murder? Somewhat. But is it 3rd on the list for murder by firearm? Probably not, given that the statistics seem to be way off. Perhaps an extra 0 was added in and it was meant to be 2000 or so for Thailand murders by firearm.

Precisely

[wilko]

I would think it's fairly safe to say that countries where firearms are readily available tend to have the highest gun crime rates and in Thailand it's very easy to legally own a gun.

If you want a real shocker, look at the gun magazines and the weaponry they adulate.

[bmanly]

General Comment.

Lets keep this thread Thailand related, based on facts. The second this post goes off the rails, it will be closed.

That's a good idea. In 17 years of coming here and spending long periods of time here I have only ever seen Police, Army, and very few Security Officers in banks armed. I only ever once saw 1 citizen with a pistol but he claimed he was a sportsman and had a license for it.

I have never seen a weapon drawn or a crime committed by one, yet.

Having said that I have no illusions that there are plenty of firearms in the community, you only have to read about the daily shootings and murders. If you stay out of trouble you may never need to look down the barrel of gun, just be a nice person.

Edited April 18, 2007 by bmanly

[GuestHouse]

In the first few weeks after our new manager came out to Thailand, he, myself and one other long term expat took a road trip up north.

While driving along a quiet provincial road he was expressing this familiar view (often heard from newbees and people who don't live in Thailand) that 'the Thais are such placid people, not at all violent'.

No sooner had he finished saying this, and I mean within just a few moments, a pick-up truck shot passed us, pursued at speed by a Merc.

Three or four miles further down the road we came around a bend and where stopped by these two vehicles almost blocking the road.

The Mec was pulled across the road in front of the Pick-up.

The driver of the pick-up was on his knees

The driver of the Merc was standing in front of him holding a f'king big hand gun at the pick-up driver's head

The wife/girlfriend of the Merc driver was going frantic trying to calm him down.

Our new manager was nearly shitting himself, urging me to drive past and ignore what was going on.

Like as if I needed telling.

[marshbags]

General Comment.

Lets keep this thread Thailand related, based on facts. The second this post goes off the rails, it will be closed.

Not very friendly, is it?

Hey, I'm a real friendly guy!! Just trying to do everyone a favour.

As a mod, this type of thread is same-old, same-old if they aren't kept on a particularly tight leash.

Starts off innocent enough.

Someone then starts the yank bashing, introducing a very tenuous link between Thailand and certain incidents in the US.

Someone comes into defend the whatever US ammendemnt it is

Starts not being not very Thai related.

Starts getting all personal.

Lots of posts are then deleted by us mods.

We then close it.

So lets try and keep the chat/debate intelligent. Look at it this way, I'm saving the yank/brit/aussie bashing in advance. You should be thanking me bwotha.

No condescending remarks intended.

Very well put Samran, diplomatically wise and T.Visa friendly to boot.

You cannot ask for better IMHO

marshbags

[undercover]

I have read back through the posts and I can't see anyone who even suggested that we shouldn't worry about the statistics.

Where do you come from with this anti Yank crap ?

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Mabe some of us are guilty of reading too much whats between the lines. I can't see anything in my text below that is anti yank crap ?

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I wonder if most of you saying dont worry about the statistics here are yanks ?

[borracho]

General Comment.

Lets keep this thread Thailand related, based on facts. The second this post goes off the rails, it will be closed.

Not very friendly, is it?

Hey, I'm a real friendly guy!! Just trying to do everyone a favour.

As a mod, this type of thread is same-old, same-old if they aren't kept on a particularly tight leash.

Starts off innocent enough.

Someone then starts the yank bashing, introducing a very tenuous link between Thailand and certain incidents in the US.

Someone comes into defend the whatever US ammendemnt it is

Starts not being not very Thai related.

Starts getting all personal.

Lots of posts are then deleted by us mods.

We then close it.

So lets try and keep the chat/debate intelligent. Look at it this way, I'm saving the yank/brit/aussie bashing in advance. You should be thanking me bwotha.

Maybe you should have stayed out of it. You are the first one to make any mention of recent event in the USA! What is the deal there. Your comments so far in this thread are the only inappropriate ones.

The topic is about gun murder rates in THAILAND!!!! Supported with a factual link.

I you you want to start a yank bashing orgy I can refer you to an appropriate site!

Also if you've been paying attention to the news in THAILAND for the past few months you may have noticed numerous shooting incidents.

[endure]

Calm down, please.

[samran]

Calm down, please.

where is the little emoticon for butting my head against a brick wall there, endure?????

Maybe you should have stayed out of it. You are the first one to make any mention of recent event in the USA! What is the deal there. Your comments so far in this thread are the only inappropriate ones.

The topic is about gun murder rates in THAILAND!!!! Supported with a factual link.

I you you want to start a yank bashing orgy I can refer you to an appropriate site!

Also if you've been paying attention to the news in THAILAND for the past few months you may have noticed numerous shooting incidents.

um, fella, I was actually trying to prevent this in the first place. Did you actually read my entire post?

[westcoastnative]

Thailand is number three for murder by firearms!

Crime Statistics > Murders with firearms (per capita) by country

VIEW DATA: Totals Per capita

Definition Source Printable version

Bar Graph Map Correlations

Rank Countries Amount (top to bottom)

#1 South Africa: 0.719782 per 1,000 people

#2 Colombia: 0.509801 per 1,000 people

#3 Thailand: 0.312093 per 1,000 people

#4 Zimbabwe: 0.0491736 per 1,000 people

#5 Mexico: 0.0337938 per 1,000 people

#6 Belarus: 0.0321359 per 1,000 people

#7 Costa Rica: 0.0313745 per 1,000 people

#8 United States: 0.0279271 per 1,000 people

#9 Uruguay: 0.0245902 per 1,000 people

#10 Lithuania: 0.0230748 per 1,000 people

#11 Slovakia: 0.021543 per 1,000 people

#12 Czech Republic: 0.0207988 per 1,000 people

#13 Estonia: 0.0157539 per 1,000 people

#14 Latvia: 0.0131004 per 1,000 people

#15 Macedonia, The Former Yugoslav Republic of: 0.0127139 per 1,000 people

#16 Bulgaria: 0.00845638 per 1,000 people

#17 Portugal: 0.00795003 per 1,000 people

#18 Slovenia: 0.00596718 per 1,000 people

#19 Switzerland: 0.00534117 per 1,000 people

#20 Canada: 0.00502972 per 1,000 people

#21 Germany: 0.00465844 per 1,000 people

#22 Moldova: 0.00448934 per 1,000 people

#23 Hungary: 0.00439692 per 1,000 people

#24 Poland: 0.0043052 per 1,000 people

#25 Ukraine: 0.00368109 per 1,000 people

#26 Ireland: 0.00298805 per 1,000 people

#27 Australia: 0.00293678 per 1,000 people

#28 Denmark: 0.00257732 per 1,000 people

#29 Spain: 0.0024045 per 1,000 people

#30 Azerbaijan: 0.00227503 per 1,000 people

#31 New Zealand: 0.00173482 per 1,000 people

#32 United Kingdom: 0.00102579 per 1,000 people

Weighted average: 0.1 per 1,000 people

Keep your head down!

How come I don't see IRAQ on this list.

[Trevor]

This is an old, cherry-picked list of countries which choose to release such data. No mention of Russia, small African banana'n'oil republics, and Thailand's ASEAN buddy the Philippines: only country in the region where a shotgun-toting guard will overwatch your safety in a coffee shop!

[endure]

Calm down, please.

where is the little emoticon for butting my head against a brick wall there, endure?????

I think it's worn out. George promised he'd order a new one