xtrnuno41 Posted June 6, 2020 Posted June 6, 2020 MAke a bet, that all viruses will stil be kept in labs all over the world !! You just can open a bottle again and all starts over. Maybe next one will be the plague, which they also keep.
DB58 Posted June 6, 2020 Posted June 6, 2020 23 hours ago, Pilotman said: well I would guess that Darwin tells us that Natural Selection/genetic mutation will, over generations, make viruses all the more powerful and resistant to vaccinations and treatments. A virus will do for humanity at some point, you can bet on it. Not necessarily, humans being a living evolving animal that has an immune system that evolves as well. Quite possible for humanity to continue to adapt and build immunity. Assuming we don’t disrupt the system to much. But that assuming exposer, sickness and deaths along the way, such is life on planet earth, at least that’s my understanding. But, never know... there may be a bug in our future that takes us out... I can’t believe that WHO actually suggests that the virus can be eliminated. Certainly not what most scientists have been saying. 2
tribalfusion001 Posted June 6, 2020 Posted June 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Phil McCaverty said: There are already increases in some states that have opened up too soon. Everything is a risk in life, at this rate there will be less and less to go back to. 1
vermin on arrival Posted June 6, 2020 Posted June 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Phil McCaverty said: I did and found nothing to say that they are actually beneficial. If you've found differently please provide link. "Recent research has linked the emerging idea of the hygiene hypothesis to viruses. This hypothesis attempts to explain and justify some of the high incidences of diseases such as asthma[22] and eczema[23] in the Western world to Western society's overuse of antibiotic and antiviral agents. This overuse potentially disrupts not only the bacteria of the gut but also the viruses that have long lived in harmony with the human body and now play a role in regulation of human health." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_virome 1
yuyiinthesky Posted June 6, 2020 Posted June 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Phil McCaverty said: There are already increases in some states that have opened up too soon. And there are some small businesses for which the opening was not too late to go bankrupt.
Pilotman Posted June 6, 2020 Posted June 6, 2020 2 hours ago, vermin on arrival said: Except this isn't the spanish flu. Interesting that some are now thinking that for a possible variety of reasons in the range of 50-80% may not be susceptible to covid19. We shall see. Here is an interview with a mathematical modeler who provides information to public health officials in Britain to act upon. Karl Friston: up to 80% not even susceptible to Covid-19 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUOFeVIrOPg I don't think viruses 'do' maths.
Krataiboy Posted June 6, 2020 Posted June 6, 2020 5 hours ago, Phil McCaverty said: I did and found nothing to say that they are actually beneficial. If you've found differently please provide link. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/04/150430170750.htm http://sitn.hms.harvard.edu/flash/2018/viruses-not-all-are-bad-for-you/ https://www.kitchenstewardship.com/human-virome/ 1
3NUMBAS Posted June 7, 2020 Posted June 7, 2020 https://uk.news.yahoo.com/vaccine-scientists-verge-antibody-treatment-073038913.html Scientists working on a potential coronavirus vaccine have nearly reached a breakthrough on an antibody treatment which could save the lives of the vulnerable and elderly. According to British-Swedish pharmaceutical company AstraZeneca, an injection of cloned antibodies which allows the body to counteract Covid-19 has the potential to be hugely significant for those in the early stages of infection. The company has already started to manufacture the Oxford University Covid-19 vaccine to make sure that, if it passes human trials, it can be made available in the autumn. On Thursday, AstraZeneca signed a deal with the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations (Cepi) to help manufacture 300 million globally accessible doses of the coronavirus vaccine candidate being developed by the Jenner Institute at the University of Oxford. One member of the coalition is the Serum Institute of India, which The Sunday Telegraph reports is considering other “parallel” partnerships with AstraZeneca that could lead to the antibody treatment being funded as a stand-alone treatment. AstraZeneca’s chief executive Pascal Soriot told the newspaper that the treatment being developed is “a combination of two antibodies” in an injected dose “because by having both you reduce the chance of resistance developing to one antibody”. Antibody therapy is more expensive than vaccine production, with Mr Soriot saying the former would be prioritised for the elderly and vulnerable “who may not be able to develop a good response to a vaccine”. It comes as trials of the potential vaccine have started in Brazil, a new epicentre of the pandemic, to ensure the study can be properly tested as transmission rates fall in the UK. cont
xtrnuno41 Posted June 8, 2020 Posted June 8, 2020 20 hours ago, 3NUMBAS said: https://uk.news.yahoo.com/vaccine-scientists-verge-antibody-treatment-073038913.html Scientists working on a potential coronavirus vaccine have nearly reached a breakthrough on an antibody treatment which could save the lives of the vulnerable and elderly. According to British-Swedish pharmaceutical company AstraZeneca, an injection of cloned antibodies which allows the body to counteract Covid-19 has the potential to be hugely significant for those in the early stages of infection. The company has already started to manufacture the Oxford University Covid-19 vaccine to make sure that, if it passes human trials, it can be made available in the autumn. On Thursday, AstraZeneca signed a deal with the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations (Cepi) to help manufacture 300 million globally accessible doses of the coronavirus vaccine candidate being developed by the Jenner Institute at the University of Oxford. One member of the coalition is the Serum Institute of India, which The Sunday Telegraph reports is considering other “parallel” partnerships with AstraZeneca that could lead to the antibody treatment being funded as a stand-alone treatment. AstraZeneca’s chief executive Pascal Soriot told the newspaper that the treatment being developed is “a combination of two antibodies” in an injected dose “because by having both you reduce the chance of resistance developing to one antibody”. Antibody therapy is more expensive than vaccine production, with Mr Soriot saying the former would be prioritised for the elderly and vulnerable “who may not be able to develop a good response to a vaccine”. It comes as trials of the potential vaccine have started in Brazil, a new epicentre of the pandemic, to ensure the study can be properly tested as transmission rates fall in the UK. cont O, ok now everybody has medicine against corona. In the Netherlands, they found antibody working good, but now it goes to USA to create more and to develop??!! Several links just google "dutch corona medicine" Like : https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/05/us-pharma-firm-signs-deal-with-dutch-researchers-for-coronavirus-medicine/ Amazing they find it lying frozen around in another Dutch university, when SAR and MERS were active. Good to see we are all working together, NOT, for a medicine. I dont know why they choose USA to make it, as Trump always say: Americans first. Guess thats a stupid choice and why they dint bother then to work with British? Amazing.
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