Black Lives Matter protest in Bangkok, Sunday

[cyril sneer]

https://thethaiger.com/hot-news/events/bangkok-braces-for-black-lives-matter-rally

 

Hopefully they'll be some arrests 

[bert bloggs]

what a load of bull shi _

[Tagged]

Think twice before you answer! 
 

Think about all the tourist and expat death the years you have know Thailand, all the suspecious suicides so many of you guys cry about is not suicide, and what you have said about police effort to solve tourist and expat murders and crime against foreigners!
 

If black doesnt appeal to you, how about justice for all of us? 

Edited June 6, 2020 by Tagged

[ezzra]

I can in one minute recite a dozen of forgotten, disenfranchised and decimated groups of people around the world that their lives are in mortal danger as we speak, i don't see anyone protestation that their lives matter, Hypocrisy is a trait people are not ashamed to practice everyday...

[lust]

This is a US problem. Keep your <deleted> out of Thailand. 

[ThailandRyan]

How about the Tiananmen Square massacre by Thailand's overlords, or better yet how about the 2010 killings during a staged coup, and then well to many in their own country, but then I see this ending in arrests and re-education camps because of course this is Thailand 

[teatime101]

7 minutes ago, ezzra said:

I can in one minute recite a dozen of forgotten, disenfranchised and decimated groups of people around the world that their lives are in mortal danger as we speak, i don't see anyone protestation that their lives matter,

Please provide a list, and some evidence of that which you don't see - oh right, of course you can't.

 

Here are a few, off the top of my head.

 

Amazonian indigenous groups

Rohingyans

Palestinians

Aboriginal indigenous groups of Australia and Canada 

 

How can I name these groups so easily? Because they are frequently in the news, due to their being 'disenfranchised and decimated' by people in power. You imagine nobody cares, but maybe that's just you.

[lust]

If anyone is planning on attending, I strongly recommend you have your visa situation sorted out and are drug free. Immigration police will probing deeeeep.

[ThailandRyan]

3 minutes ago, teatime101 said:

Please provide a list, and some evidence of that which you don't see - oh right, of course you can't.

 

Here are a few, off the top of my head.

 

Amazonian indigenous groups

Rohingyans

Palestinians

Aboriginal indigenous groups of Australia and Canada 

 

How can I name these groups so easily? Because they are frequently in the news, due to their being 'disenfranchised and decimated' by people in power. You imagine nobody cares, but maybe that's just you.

It unfortunately does not fit these peoples Agenda for the perceived ills of the folks living in the USA.  They go back 400 years to keep the playbook going.  But then if that is the case, and we are talking about long time disenfranchising then maybe The Mongolian people/China should be held accountable for the destruction and chaos and enslavement by Genghis Kahn, or the EU for the slavery used, or the disenfranchising of religious groups, or well the list can be expanded.  Maybe even hold the Spaniards responsible for Christopher Columbus's treatment of the indigenous peoples.....Holy mackerel, this could goon forever.  The world is not a perfect place and never will be.....

[Jingthing]

My impression is that its illegal for foreigners to publicly protest in Thailand. 

 

So for any foreigners that are feeling this I suggest that you explore other ways to show your support which are available to you from Thailand. They do exist. 

 

For Thais I would think they would have many more locally compelling issues to express dissent about, yeah? 

 

I can understand these BLM events in places like the UK but this really doesn't make any sense to me in Thailand. 

 

To be clear, I am hoping that now is finally the time that the USA addresses its original sin of structural racism towards black people. Maybe. Just maybe. 

Edited June 6, 2020 by Jingthing

[johnray]

Being black in Thailand is like being a Jew in Nazi Germany.

 

If any black people can actually make it to the protest without being searched and followed every few minutes I wish them good luck.

Edited June 6, 2020 by johnray

[Orton Rd]

4 minutes ago, johnray said:

Being black in Thailand is like being a Jew in Nazi Germany.

 

If any black people can actually make it to the protest without being searched and followed every few minutes I wish them good luck.

Blacks are not put into camps in Thailand so not it's not like Germany. This is just laughable virtue signalling, if they want to protest what about the Thai dissadent kidnapped and probably killed in Cambodia this week, or don't Thai dissadent lives matter?

[Matzzon]

1 hour ago, cyril sneer said:

Hopefully they'll be some arrests

Why are you posting that, and what do you really mean with it?
 

27 minutes ago, lust said:

This is a US problem. Keep your <deleted> out of Thailand. 

How can you post that racism is a US problem? How can you post that people are given a different value and treatment based on their origin and color of skin is a US problem?

 

Is this so trivial for you, so you believe people should not care? I sincerely hope that you never will post about something you might see as a big problem, because that would only mean you believe you are the one to chose what´s important or not. I guess you understand that the only thing you are doing with this comment, is overestimating your own importance.

[izod10]

Should be well attended   lol

[lust]

1 minute ago, Matzzon said:

Why are you posting that, and what do you really mean with it?
 

How can you post that racism is a US problem? How can you post that people are given a different value and treatment based on their origin and color of skin is a US problem?

 

Is this so trivial for you, so you believe people should not care? I sincerely hope that you never will post about something you might see as a big problem, because that would only mean you believe you are the one to chose what´s important or not. I guess you understand that the only thing you are doing with this comment, is overestimating your own importance.

Thais are racist daily to whites/blacks/Indians/Cambodians/Laotians/Burmese. Why would they care about skin color? 
 

black lives matter is from years of slavery, read a book. again, keep that <deleted> in the USA.
 

If blacks or any other skin color/nationality feels oppressed here, their countries will always take them back.

[BangkokReady]

35 minutes ago, lust said:

This is a US problem. Keep your <deleted> out of Thailand. 

It boggles my mind to see people marching in London to protest the death of a Black man in America.  I could understand if it was the American embassy, but I don't believe it is.  (Especially as there is nothing to suggest it was actually a racist incident and the same has happened to white people.)

 

To me it just shows that people get into this as much because it is a trend as anything else.

 

The same happened whenever the last one was.  People in the UK saying "<deleted> the police" at the UK police for something the police in America have done.

[Matzzon]

1 minute ago, lust said:

Thais are racist daily to whites/blacks/Indians/Cambodians/Laotians/Burmese. Why would they care about skin color? 
 

black lives matter is from years of slavery, read a book. again, keep that <deleted> in the USA.
 

If blacks or any other skin color/nationality feels oppressed here, their countries will always take them back.

Pure BS! So, what you are stating here is the the world should do nothing and hold their opinion to themself? That means all pressure on different countries and systems as well as countries suppressing their own people should end?

 

What you are saying here is that nobody or no country should interfere with another countries way of dealing with things whatsoever. Or is it like I posted. You believe you are the chosen to decide what´s important or not? 

[spidermike007]

Anytime minorities are being oppressed, disenfranchised, denied opportunities, and singled out by the police due to the color of their skin, it is a step backwards for humanity. Thais are not activists by nature, yet in this day and age of perpetual army control and total indifference to the people of Thailand, and their well being, activism is important, and necessary. This is a good first step. Plus, Thais are mesmerized by anything white, so this is a very good cultural lesson for them, in embracing the concept that black is beautiful. So many Thais are dark skinned, yet many seem ashamed of their "blackness". That is based on nothing real, and anything that helps them to embrace who they are, is a good thing. It is good all around.

 

This kind of thing makes me proud of the Thai youth, who are the only real hope this nation has. The army is moving the nation backwards, daily. They are the most regressive force Thailand has to deal with. 

[ChipButty]

As a Farang I would be keeping well away from any public gathering, is it not illegal anyway? Cant see Thai's really giving a flying F about BLM 

[Matzzon]

34 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

(Especially as there is nothing to suggest it was actually a racist incident and the same has happened to white people.)

As I see it, there must be very much that boggles your mind. I sincerely hope that ice cream melting in the sun is not one of them.

However, it does not matter if there has been white people before. If it is racist or not. What´s important is that it never happens again. Now it happens to be a black man, which makes the problem bigger due to that they have never been seen as having the same value as white people.

 

How you can be surprised that the world are answering a thing like this is the thing that is most mind boggling. The pressure from the international society has always been a tool to make a difference. It will continue to be that. Simple, right?

Edited June 6, 2020 by Matzzon

[JensenZ]

1 hour ago, Tagged said:

Think twice before you answer! 
 

Think about all the tourist and expat death the years you have know Thailand, all the suspecious suicides so many of you guys cry about is not suicide, and what you have said about police effort to solve tourist and expat murders and crime against foreigners!
 

If black doesnt appeal to you, how about justice for all of us? 

In other words, ALL lives matter. It's a fantasy. Humans are not and never have been born equal. People who live in the United States don't understand true poverty. The land of the spoiled.

 

It has never changed - you must always choose your parents wisely.

Edited June 6, 2020 by JensenZ

[teatime101]

53 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

The world is not a perfect place and never will be.....

And your point is? Nazis are only human? Make Slavery Great Again?

 

Being white and privileged I can comfortably and easily brush off racism and repression of minorities, but I don't. 

[teatime101]

33 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

people in the UK saying "<deleted> the police" at the UK police for something the police in America have done.

Urr, not exactly.

 

Marcia Rigg's brother Sean Rigg lost his life in the UK, after an encounter with British police saw him restrained in a prone position for seven minutes. For her, the parallels with George Floyd's death are painful to note, but they serve to re-ignite her fight to shed light on police aggression on home soil.

 

https://www.elle.com/uk/life-and-culture/a32742001/marcia-rigg-anti-racism/

Edited June 6, 2020 by teatime101

[spidermike007]

26 minutes ago, ChipButty said:

As a Farang I would be keeping well away from any public gathering, is it not illegal anyway? Cant see Thai's really giving a flying F about BLM 

The youth in Thailand have a far higher degree of consciousness, are more aware, and seem to care more, than the generation that came before them. That is nothing but a good thing. And it gives me hope about the future of the nation. I think for the vast majority here, the hapless and toxic army gives people nothing but a sense of utter hopelessness. Since all gatherings are illegal, it matters little. Since there is no covid, there is no contagion. And since the army has no moral authority, why obey them?

[Sundown]

BLM has nothing to do with the (mythological) discrimination of blacks by police, it is just a way of the American Dems to subvert Trump's government, people around the world supporting this are ignorant fools. I don't believe someone will protest in Bangkok but if that happens I hope they get all arrested.

[Matzzon]

19 minutes ago, JensenZ said:

It has never changed - you must always choose your parents wisely.

Eeeh! Go, You wiz kid.

[Bender Rodriguez]

do they mean:  black skinned thais matter?  better invest time in that...

 

if it is the regular kind: better but a thai "smartcar" and check their visa's 

Edited June 6, 2020 by Bender Rodriguez

[Jingthing]

9 minutes ago, Sundown said:

BLM has nothing to do with the (mythological) discrimination of blacks by police, it is just a way of the American Dems to subvert Trump's government, people around the world supporting this are ignorant fools. I don't believe someone will protest in Bangkok but if that happens I hope they get all arrested.

No. You're 100 percent wrong. This movement existed way before 45 was elected. An African American president didn't even begin to solve the original American sin of systemic racism against black people. There is no quick fix but the breadth and visibility of this current manifestation is encouraging that action may actually begin to happen. 

 

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This movement is not anarchy. It could push America to be a better nation.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/this-movement-is-not-anarchy-it-could-push-america-to-be-a-better-nation/2020/06/05/e2ec40aa-a72a-11ea-b619-3f9133bbb482_story.html

 

 

 

 

 

[Jingthing]

9 minutes ago, Bender Rodriguez said:

do they mean:  black skinned thais matter?  better invest time in that...

 

if it is the regular kind: better but a thai "smartcar" and check their visa's 

Good question. My impression is that it's about relating to the struggle in the USA. If so, I would suggest Thai people look closer to home. 

[PatchinExPat]

Nothing but "me too"ism to the extreme .

Sure go stand in the sun awhile if you like.

Results, nothing very lasting

well, maybe your sunburn.

 

It is 70% political ploy, 30% I want some of your money ploy.

Change, very unlikely . Folks get bored quickly.

Bu**hurt feelings, yeah they last a life time on all sides.

As Roseann Rose-Annadanna's uncle said, "It is always something".

The world is going to get better, who the hell told you that.

Science is getting better, but people , no way, no how.

 

Look go make your bed, cook some dinner, and maybe wash the car

 at the end of the day you have accomplished something.

 

 

Edited June 6, 2020 by PatchinExPat
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