In London skirmishes, suspected far-right protester is rescued

[Bluespunk]

6 minutes ago, kingdong said:

Perhaps he is still a police officer and was working undercover.

Yeah, sure, that’s what happened. 
 

 

Edited June 18, 2020 by Bluespunk

[evadgib]

Just now, kingdong said:

Perhaps he is still a police officer and was working undercover.

Perfectly reasonable given he was on BTP's patch (Waterloo stn).

[kingdong]

3 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

Yeah, sure, that’s what happened. 
 

 

Glad you agree,common sense has finally prevailed.

[Bluespunk]

21 minutes ago, kingdong said:

Glad you agree,common sense has finally prevailed.

Oh dear playground behaviour.

 

I find it hilarious how some are trying to twist the facts to suit their own misbegotten agendas and inability to face up to what really happened.

Edited June 18, 2020 by Bluespunk

[kingdong]

2 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

Oh dear playground behaviour.

 

I find it hilarious how some are trying to twist the facts to suit their own misbegotten agendas and inability to face up to what really happened.

What would we all do without the guardian to inform us of "what really happened" ?

[Bluespunk]

1 minute ago, kingdong said:

What would we all do without the guardian to inform us of "what really happened" ?

The Guardian is just reporting the facts, that you can’t deal with them and try to force them into a convoluted narrative that helps explain the truth away is your problem.

[evadgib]

27 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

The Guardian is just reporting the facts, that you can’t deal with them and try to force them into a convoluted narrative that helps explain the truth away is your problem.

- The Facts as yet remain far from clear for reasons amply explained.

- There's no 'dealing with' to be done until such information is forthcoming, &

- Your third point is little more than a smokescreen to divert attention away the 'Far Right' baloney that has been grossly exaggerated to say the least & does a gross disservice to veterans and other ordinary decent people who saw Parliament's Army take the subservient knee a week earlier when a statue was felled unchecked, Churchill defaced & the cenotaph mounted by an arsonist and were aghast when they defended those same vandals last weekend.

[Bluespunk]

8 minutes ago, evadgib said:

- The Facts as yet remain far from clear for reasons amply explained.

- There's no 'dealing with' to be done until such information is forthcoming, &

- Your third point is little more than a smokescreen to divert attention away the 'Far Right' baloney that has been grossly exaggerated to say the least & does a gross disservice to veterans and other ordinary decent people who saw Parliament's Army take the subservient knee a week earlier when a statue was felled unchecked, Churchill defaced & the cenotaph mounted by an arsonist and were aghast when they defended those same vandals last weekend.

All the facts, ones you dislike so, that have been reported on this story are correct.
 

Bluster all you want, it won’t change them in any way, shape or form. 
 

Oh and isn’t altering posts in any way, including changing font,  against forum rules. 
 

Edited June 18, 2020 by Bluespunk

[evadgib]

18 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

All the facts you dislike so that have been reported on this story are correct. Bluster all you want, it won’t change them in any way, shape or form. 

So what happened to matey immediately before and again after he was carried? (Facts please, no S.W.A.G). I have been looking for detail all week to no avail.

Thank god you're here to explain...

Edited June 18, 2020 by evadgib

[Bluespunk]

Just now, evadgib said:

So what happened to matey immediately before and again after he was carried? Facts please, no S.W.A.G. 

I have been looking all week to no avail.

Thank god you're here to explain...

I’ll wait for facts on that to come out about why the ex copper had to be carried out of trouble. 
 

Facts. 

[Sujo]

On 6/17/2020 at 6:13 PM, CorpusChristie said:

That was the problem wasnt it, the police were not protecting the statues and so the public had to step in to protect them 

The uk is not the us. The public cannot just decide who or what to protect. That is the job of police,

.

[Sujo]

7 minutes ago, evadgib said:

So what happened to matey immediately before and again after he was carried? Facts please, no S.W.A.G. 

I have been looking all week to no avail.

Thank god you're here to explain...

Why dont you post a link to what happened to him instead of asking.. the facts have been presented to you.

[CorpusChristie]

6 minutes ago, Sujo said:

The uk is not the us. The public cannot just decide who or what to protect. That is the job of police,

.

Who decided whether Coulstons statue should still remain ?

A . The Police 

B. The public/ protestors ? 

Edited June 18, 2020 by CorpusChristie

[CorpusChristie]

9 minutes ago, Sujo said:

The uk is not the us. The public cannot just decide who or what to protect. That is the job of police,

.

No, the people/public decide what they want , its the polices job to enforce that 

[evadgib]

15 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

I’ll wait for facts on that to come out about why the ex copper had to be carried out of trouble. 
 

Facts. 

So despite all your huffing and puffing you don't know either? Why not simply admit that in the first place?

[Bluespunk]

9 minutes ago, evadgib said:

So despite all your huffing and puffing you don't know either? Why not simply admit that in the first place?

I never raised the issue, that’s all on you. 

Edited June 18, 2020 by Bluespunk

[Loiner]

50 minutes ago, Sujo said:

The uk is not the us. The public cannot just decide who or what to protect. That is the job of police,

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It is not the job of the police at all. They are duty bound to uphold the law, protect people and property. They cannot pick and choose.

[CG1 Blue]

1 hour ago, Sujo said:

The uk is not the us. The public cannot just decide who or what to protect. That is the job of police,

.

The police stated publicly that they were not going to protect statues. That was made evident in Bristol where some members of the public decided to remove a statue and the police did nothing. 

If you condone members of the public removing statues, you should also condone members of the public protecting statues. 

[simple1]

6 hours ago, Loiner said:

It is not the job of the police at all. They are duty bound to uphold the law, protect people and property. They cannot pick and choose.

Occasionally police have to make a judgement call on whether to engage or not in the best interest of overall public order in a given situation. Recently police have been attacked by those some consider to be 'patriots', they are not 'patriots' they are in fact violent criminals and should be jailed, as should any from the left committing criminal offences.

[Loiner]

8 hours ago, simple1 said:

Occasionally police have to make a judgement call on whether to engage or not in the best interest of overall public order in a given situation. Recently police have been attacked by those some consider to be 'patriots', they are not 'patriots' they are in fact violent criminals and should be jailed, as should any from the left committing criminal offences.

A 'judgement call' does not permit the police to idly standby while wanton criminals vandalise statues and monuments considered  by many to be sacred.  The police are fast becoming the enforcers of the political left. What is the next step - stazi?

[kingdong]

2 hours ago, Loiner said:

A 'judgement call' does not permit the police to idly standby while wanton criminals vandalise statues and monuments considered  by many to be sacred.  The police are fast becoming the enforcers of the political left. What is the next step - stazi?

On your last point,naw gulags.

[simple1]

2 hours ago, Loiner said:

<SNIP>The police are fast becoming the enforcers of the political left. What is the next step - stazi?

Hyperbolic nonsense

[kingdong]

3 minutes ago, simple1 said:

Hyperbolic nonsense

The road to hell is paved with good intentions,for evil to triumph it only requires good people to do nothing.

[simple1]

32 minutes ago, kingdong said:

The road to hell is paved with good intentions,for evil to triumph it only requires good people to do nothing.

Many posters on this forum repeatedly downplay / deflect / deny the threat from the far right in the UK, many of whom have posted in this topic, so what does that make them? Suppose will receive the same old emoji from the group.

 

Police have vowed to thwart the rise of the far right, which they have said is the fastest-growing terrorist threat in the UK, as they try to stop race hate ideologues from bringing violence to the country’s streets.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/sep/19/fastest-growing-uk-terrorist-threat-is-from-far-right-say-police

[CorpusChristie]

6 minutes ago, simple1 said:

Many posters on this forum repeatedly downplay / deflect / deny the threat from the far right in the UK, many of whom have posted in this topic, so what does that make them? Suppose will receive the same old emoji from the group.

 

Police have vowed to thwart the rise of the far right, which they have said is the fastest-growing terrorist threat in the UK, as they try to stop race hate ideologues from bringing violence to the country’s streets.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/sep/19/fastest-growing-uk-terrorist-threat-is-from-far-right-say-police

"“The problem is small but it is my fastest-growing problem,” he said.

 

  Yeah, like one instance last year , two instances this year gives a 100 % growth

 

 

"Most of the plotting took place online, police said, with links overseas to extreme-right followers elsewhere in Europe, in the US and South America, swapping information and messages of encouragement."

 

"The remainder were jihadist, which remains by far the biggest terrorist threat to the UK and has stabilised at a very high level after years of growth."

[stevenl]

1 hour ago, CorpusChristie said:

<snip>

  Yeah, like one instance last year , two instances this year gives a 100 % growth

<snip>

Strange since one third of terror related incidents was related to extreme right wing.

[Rookiescot]

2 hours ago, kingdong said:

The road to hell is paved with good intentions,for evil to triumph it only requires good people to do nothing.

Evil?

How would you describe so called patriots attacking the police?

Are they the good guys?

[Sujo]

20 hours ago, CG1 Blue said:

The police stated publicly that they were not going to protect statues. That was made evident in Bristol where some members of the public decided to remove a statue and the police did nothing. 

If you condone members of the public removing statues, you should also condone members of the public protecting statues. 

Well thats plain wrong. The police determine who they shall arrest with guidance from above. 

 

It is not for the public to decide what should be done.

[CorpusChristie]

49 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Strange since one third of terror related incidents was related to extreme right wing.

Yes, much of that is 14 year olds posting online and people not giving the password to their phone 

[Sujo]

5 hours ago, Loiner said:

A 'judgement call' does not permit the police to idly standby while wanton criminals vandalise statues and monuments considered  by many to be sacred.  The police are fast becoming the enforcers of the political left. What is the next step - stazi?

It certainly does. Police can decide if jaywalking should be fined. But when given given directions from superiors may decide not to do.

 

police go by directions, you maybe surprised at what is illegal and not charged.