Thai media 'exaggerating' Covid-19 situation in Beijing

[ftpjtm]

13 minutes ago, animalmagic said:

Not heard of any stories where salmon have been eating bats, pangolins or infected humans!

Give it time.

 

The Chinese are entering the Salmon farming business. 

[anfh]

What? Salmon coming in without masks and not being 14 day quarantined ???

 

once again blaming anything but themselves !!!

[Tarteso]

Moved to “Chineses things“ forum.

[thailand49]

23 minutes ago, FinChin67 said:

This. Need to be careful. If you write anything anti-China even abroad and it creates enough fuss you will be banned from China.

This article shows how China is pressuring (forcing) companies to do what they want - if they rely or depend on China's market.
https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/politics/article/3088873/hong-kong-protests-how-cathay-pacifics-wings-were-clipped

I'm more than aware of this I'm Chinese American have many family members living in China and H.K. for years I have divested everything out of China no longer visit since I want to speak freely.

[Bkk Brian]

2 hours ago, rvaviator said:

Well .. I live in Beijing and based on my experience what Bo Siwattra is saying reflect what I see and experience. 

 

Apparently a chopping board used for cutting up salmon was found to have the virus on it in that market.

Not just a chopping board, 40 other positive environmental samples https://www.who.int/news-room/detail/13-06-2020-a-cluster-of-covid-19-in-beijing-people-s-republic-of-china

[TommyDee]

have to say that as this has been reported globally not just here,  relying on one person isnt the best of reporting.   perhaps its because they were on the list of countries planned for a fast return here.  maybe not ????

[JCP108]

2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Not just a chopping board, 40 other positive environmental samples https://www.who.int/news-room/detail/13-06-2020-a-cluster-of-covid-19-in-beijing-people-s-republic-of-china

All Norwegian salmon-related?

[Bkk Brian]

This is credible news?? From Siwattra Phatbo in Beijing, a Thai freelance scriptwriter making a post on facebook!

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, JCP108 said:

All Norwegian salmon-related?

A varied array of items I think. 

 

Inspectors took 1,901 samples from meat, surfaces, dustbins, handles and other objects at the market, and 40 tested positive, the officials said. https://time.com/5853242/beijing-new-coronavirus-outbreak/

[JCP108]

4 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

A varied array of items I think. 

 

Inspectors took 1,901 samples from meat, surfaces, dustbins, handles and other objects at the market, and 40 tested positive, the officials said. https://time.com/5853242/beijing-new-coronavirus-outbreak/

Maybe 39 of the samples were false positives and the one on the cutting board touched by the Norwegian salmon is the true positive? Surely Bo Siwattra would not be exaggerating!

[moe666]

4 hours ago, ukrules said:

1 - Where is it going to come from in September if it's gone? They have quarantines on all international flights, nobody gets in without passing through the quarantine. This is admitting failure before even attempting to win.

 

2 - Just because they didn't detect any cases for 55 days it does not mean that it's gone. Perhaps there's an as yet unknown reservoir.

 

Blaming it on salmon, lol ????

 

Salmon contains plenty of Vit D that is thought may help against infections, now we're supposed to believe salmon (specifically salmon from Norway) itself is a problem, if I was a 'conspiracy nut' I would think they're attempting to get people to stop eating salmon to increase spread of the disease.

 

I wonder what they did in Norway to annoy the Chinese (Nobel prizes?). Norways infections are way down the list of infected countries. They did a much better job than China.

 

The Japanese eat a lot of salmon......look at the figures for Japan.

The salmon would have been frozen for shipping, does extreme cold kill covid.

[BestB]

Yes its the salmon, good one

https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/global/coronavirus-crematorium-data-prove-china-was-lying-about-covid19/news-story/518d04c51a89a900bbc91dfb23ad9dbb?fbclid=IwAR1LPV5Ueb9qA9E1WdzPDAcmFc7baBX7naCv-0X5PX4aKOSXyiWG14YNKe4

[nickmondo]

Salmon from Norway................ha ha, best one i have heard in years

[phkauf]

Norwegian Salmon is the Chinese equivalent of Anutin's Ai Farang. Need to blame the foreigners, can't be the local's fault. 

[JCP108]

13 minutes ago, moe666 said:

The salmon would have been frozen for shipping, does extreme cold kill covid.

Freezing doesn't seem to be able to kill coronavirus from the sources I've seen. It can survive on different surfaces. This article (below) talks about different surfaces and lists "food" but not "fish" as a separate category...says transfer via food/produce: no. 

 

https://www.webmd.com/lung/how-long-covid-19-lives-on-surfaces

 

There's also this article which discusses transfer via meat...

 

https://wtop.com/coronavirus/2020/05/you-asked-we-answered-can-i-get-sick-from-meat-packaged-at-factories-where-covid-19-spread/

Edited June 15, 2020 by JCP108

[Srikcir]

2 hours ago, ukrules said:

That's what happens when the person doing the cutting is infected with COVID.

 

It's not a reason to stop selling salmon in retailers.

 

There's a lot more to this than we currently know. I look forward to more information on the issue, especially input from the Norwegians.

 

Export the fish and not the cutting boards; danger solved.

[bluesofa]

27 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

This is credible news?? From Siwattra Phatbo in Beijing, a Thai freelance scriptwriter making a post on facebook!

Maybe sent the report via homing pigeon to somewhere that FB is not barred.

[Srikcir]

I doubt Thai news media will report anything about Covid19 in China that will offend the Chinese government, Thailand politics and GDP growth being so 'lock-step' with China. 

[car720]

5 hours ago, Justgrazing said:

Payed parrot ..

Not so.  I have family there that I trust that are saying exactly the same.

[Moo 2]

The Media is playing the Chinese game, "It's all false".

 

"I drink to make other people more interesting".   Ernest Hemingway

[Mulambana]

4 hours ago, ukrules said:

1 - Where is it going to come from in September if it's gone? They have quarantines on all international flights, nobody gets in without passing through the quarantine. This is admitting failure before even attempting to win.

China has resumed operation of forein airlines (except Americans).

[jobas69]

When China lie people die 

[Morty T]

That's interesting, last year when the wife and I were in China you couldn't access Facebook at all, as it's blocked in country. 

[smedly]

2 hours ago, LomSak27 said:

Of course all those dreams of restarting the economy with Chinese tourists could be headed out the window

I can say with a high degree of confidence the Chinese will be rolling into Thailand within 4 weeks and more likely 2 weeks - July 1st

[smedly]

there is massive anti Chinese sentiment across the world and well justified

 

they need to tread very carefully over the coming months or they will find themselves very isolated

[Pancho]

Chiland.

[Almer]

3 hours ago, rvaviator said:

Well .. I live in Beijing and based on my experience what Bo Siwattra is saying reflect what I see and experience. 

 

Apparently a chopping board used for cutting up salmon was found to have the virus on it in that market.

So the chopping board USED  to cut salmon, not the salmon, big difference.

[Almer]

13 minutes ago, smedly said:

there is massive anti Chinese sentiment across the world and well justified

 

they need to tread very carefully over the coming months or they will find themselves very isolated

I try and avoid them not just because of C19 but due to disgusting habits and arrogant attitude

[bodga]

1 hour ago, wensiensheng said:

Oh sure, blame it on the salmon, they’re a convenient fall guy who can’t fight back.

It WAS the  Salmon as can clearly be demonstrated here

 

[SkyFax]

1 hour ago, anfh said:

What? Salmon coming in without masks and not being 14 day quarantined ???

I first read this story early this AM shortly after posted and my only surprise is it took 32 posts before someone asked: Were the salmon wearing masks?