Popular Post Sumarianson Posted June 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2020 (edited) No one in the mainstream is talking about the German government's leaked report, the Russian official report and the numerous high ranking consultants and doctors that have stated that COVID was exaggerated to way beyond a normal flu and a UK NHS Consultant General with 30 years experience has stated that it was not a virus at all! Most agree that the numbers of dead would not have exceeded what would be the normal death toll from other viruses in that season. What did increase the body count is people who could not get their necessary surgeries during the lockdown and people who would have saught attention for an ailment but could not because of the lockdown and died as a result. Now no government wants to admit they were hoaxed and that their highest paid medical and administrative personell were gullible and incompetant and caused countries and cosequently their people Trillions of dollars in lost revenue, business closures, and job losses. Let alone the disruption, riots, suasides, deprrssion and illnesses caused by this scam and it is unbelievably still going on as people are blindly continuing to accept the narrative spun by the now incompetant governments that allowed this to happen. Keep wearing your masks and increase the death toll. Masks are only useful when people carrying a "deadly virus" are roaming the streets. They like it when you are in fear! Then you are easily controlled. Edited June 18, 2020 by Sumarianson 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavideol Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 20 hours ago, webfact said: Mr. Chuan Leekpai, President of the National Assembly disclosed today that at a meeting with Mrs. Gita Sabharwal, the new UN Resident Coordinator in Thailand, they were discussing the COVID-19 situation in Thailand and she praised Thai authorities and the people as having successfully coped with the virus. Mrs Gita is the NEW UN Resident Coordinator in Thailand, they really would expect a different answer/comment from her to jeopardize her job here, sure she will kiss axx as anybody else on the same situation would do, that's called politics 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavideol Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 2 hours ago, thairookie said: Does that mean Thailand is ready to welcome Chinese tourists ? if they are stupid enough, sure they will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berti Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 1 hour ago, BobbyL said: Let's be fair, the numbers may be far higher (similar to every country), but one thing you cannot fault them with is the policies that the people here have followed. Just look at the scenes in the UK or USA with people doing whatever they want with no social distancing, no masks and places pretty much open like normal. Doing nothing and doing too much, both are not intelligent solutions. Both hurt the economy the most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray richards Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 I arrived back in uk early March just before our lockdown, now into June & UK Government are insisting we should wear a mask in public places, 3 months too late with 42,000 deaths in UK so well done to Thailand for getting the covid under control. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joecoolfrog Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 2 hours ago, jkcjag said: So your idea would be what exactly? I assume you have a much better solution to curb the spread...maybe copy the UK perhaps...only 50,000 deaths there. 1 hour ago, George Aylesham said: Thanks for your thoughtful post; I was getting very fed up with all the repetitious, knee jerk Thai bashers on TV. Yep , they are as bad as the knee jerk apologists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joecoolfrog Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 1 hour ago, BobbyL said: Let's be fair, the numbers may be far higher (similar to every country), but one thing you cannot fault them with is the policies that the people here have followed. Just look at the scenes in the UK or USA with people doing whatever they want with no social distancing, no masks and places pretty much open like normal. Except that in the UK there was comprehensive social distancing and a major lockdown as well , not got a clue why you thought otherwise. True that we did allow the sale of beer , tested comprehensively and provided huge government financial aid , those were clearly grevious errors !!! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 UN bureaucrats know usurpers take to flattery like cats to a bowl of cream. Then we get these PR releases. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razek Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 propaganda 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarky cat Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 the death figures are no way near the correct number Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sapson Posted June 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2020 in the world of politics and diplomacy the facts are overlooked its just a circus of posturing show ponies. You would think someone would question the Indian premier ..... you spend millions on nuclear arms and a space program...............yet hundreds of thousands of your population lack basic medicine, housing, nutrition and sanitation why?? We can go to the moon and send probes to Mars yet we still kill each other in the name of religious or land border disputes quite routinely.............. just total lunacy. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Percy P Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 22 hours ago, Berti said: Close everything, you must be a genius to invent this strategy. It only works when people are capable of suffering. Agree about medical sector. Suffering no problem, better then 6 foot under where you'd have no problem . Thailand one of the safest places to be . I find lockdown very relaxing. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 6 hours ago, loong said: Maybe they should be congratulating Thailand on its geographical location. They could have added "Shame that you couldn't do anywhere near so well as Myanmar, Cambodia, Vietnam or Laos whose combined population is more than double yours, yet they have less than 1 quarter of Thailand's cases" A military dictatorship accused of genocide in Myanmar, a communist government in Loas, and one run by a former terrorist appointed leader turned dictator in Cambodia. Yep, the answer must be totalitarianism. All those silly poor performing Western democracies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Percy P Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Archcan said: Of course. The UN wants a one world government using the Chinese Communist Party autocracy as a model. Good job Thailand. One more step in the Totalitarian tip toe. Now that you have crippled the Thai economy causing severe harm to many of your citizens you may as well brag about it. Perhaps you have an alternative to lockdown . Take the Thai Boxing match at Lumpeni Park Bkk. Many Senior Citizens have also suffered with a decrease in pension due to the devalue of one's currency. Any suggestion s Edited June 18, 2020 by Percy P 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmitch Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Thailand got away with it after some pretty poor decisions in the early days which have been well-documented. They controlled it thereafter with some rather extreme measures but it worked and for this the Government should be praised, despite the obvious economic disaster it's produced. The task now is to get back to some semblance of normality with regard to the economy and of course the tourism industry and that is still going to be a tough ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 19 minutes ago, sapson said: in the world of politics and diplomacy the facts are overlooked its just a circus of posturing show ponies. You would think someone would question the Indian premier ..... you spend millions on nuclear arms and a space program...............yet hundreds of thousands of your population lack basic medicine, housing, nutrition and sanitation why?? We can go to the moon and send probes to Mars yet we still kill each other in the name of religious or land border disputes quite routinely.............. just total lunacy. Human condition. As long as the show goes on and we can satisfy the nagging thought things aren't what they seem, most will cheat themselves to keep it that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, madmitch said: Thailand got away with it after some pretty poor decisions in the early days which have been well-documented. They controlled it thereafter with some rather extreme measures but it worked and for this the Government should be praised, despite the obvious economic disaster it's produced. The task now is to get back to some semblance of normality with regard to the economy and of course the tourism industry and that is still going to be a tough ask. They were late to close the borders and are now unnecessarily prolonging the lockdowns. They were very slow to ramp up testing and the tracing network is still in tatters. The timing of the lockdown and it's execution was alright, not surprisingly from a group that stages coups, they've gotten a fair bit of practise. It does seem the DDC is able, though, as are the big hospitals and doctors. The problems lie in the usurper politics. The recovery will be pure politics and that's when we'll see exactly where the priorities lie. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Percy P Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 12 hours ago, NCC1701A said: Good work Thailand. Thailand has put the rest of the world to shame fighting the virus. Well said. Penang not doing too badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Percy P Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 12 minutes ago, madmitch said: Thailand got away with it after some pretty poor decisions in the early days which have been well-documented. They controlled it thereafter with some rather extreme measures but it worked and for this the Government should be praised, despite the obvious economic disaster it's produced. The task now is to get back to some semblance of normality with regard to the economy and of course the tourism industry and that is still going to be a tough ask. I think tourists will see that Thailand has things under control and it will be the first Country to return to. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Percy P Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Mavideol said: if they are stupid enough, sure they will Where do you suggest a safe Country to go to. Looking at statistics on Thai CV it would suggest Thailand 's the place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Percy P Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 12 hours ago, NCC1701A said: Good work Thailand. Thailand has put the rest of the world to shame fighting the virus. I agree. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyf Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 3 hours ago, hotchilli said: I don't think they had much to fight, they got away with sheer luck considering what was happening in early February with the Chinese new year. A bit more to it than luck. On 5th February I did a border bounce at Padang Besar from here in Chonburi, on the buses into Bangkok, the BTS and the train down to Malaysia nearly everyone was wearing masks, in particular the Chinese. The majority without masks were foreigners, as is their want. At the border temperature screening was in place and passport history was being checked, a guy was cleaning the fingerprint machine each time it was used, measures had already been put in place. A month later we were still getting the dismissive rhetoric from the likes of Trump and Bojo. On the 2nd of March Boris Johnson said the UK was well prepared for a spread of the virus, 2 weeks later the country was in crisis. This forum proves beyond any shadow of doubt that the majority of western foreigners are not prepared to pay any attention to what Asia says or does. UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson says the country is well prepared for the "likely" spread of coronavirus. https://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-51706391/coronavirus-pm-boris-johnson-says-the-uk-is-well-prepared 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulikens Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 lets be honest thailand u fluked it. good on ya but dont try and make out it was anything but luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 13 hours ago, sandyf said: A bit more to it than luck. On 5th February I did a border bounce at Padang Besar from here in Chonburi, on the buses into Bangkok, the BTS and the train down to Malaysia nearly everyone was wearing masks, in particular the Chinese. The majority without masks were foreigners, as is their want. At the border temperature screening was in place and passport history was being checked, a guy was cleaning the fingerprint machine each time it was used, measures had already been put in place. Sorry, on the 5th February I find that hard to believe, Thailand had zero action in place, in fact it was still taking direct flights & tourists from ground zero... Wuhan. There were no restrictions at that time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yinn Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 19 hours ago, hotchilli said: I'd liked to have seen how the health system held up if it was 10's of thousands infected and thousands dying? Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumarianson Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 23 hours ago, ray richards said: I arrived back in uk early March just before our lockdown, now into June & UK Government are insisting we should wear a mask in public places, 3 months too late with 42,000 deaths in UK so well done to Thailand for getting the covid under control. Wait until the now delayed report on the yearly casualties of viruses in the UK comes out this month insted of last. Look at how the numbers of Flu, Pnuemonia, lung disorders, MERS, SARS, and Swine Flu have magically dissapeared. Yhey are working on how to cook the figures right now but any intelligent investagative journalist worth their salt will rumble and manipulation of the figures. Now one month late? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 (edited) On 6/18/2020 at 12:16 PM, hotchilli said: I'd liked to have seen how the health system held up if it was 10's of thousands infected and thousands dying? The death toll was probably around 1,500-2,000: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/04/21/world/coronavirus-missing-deaths.html And the infections in tens or hundreds of thousands with the D614 strain between November to late February: Healthcare did fine, in fact nobody took notice at all until China went public (way too late). Dr. Boon did mention that the specifically designated COVID wards and Siriraj, Chula, BIDI and Mahidol were getting full at the peak before the lockdown. It would have taken about 2-3x more severe cases for the patients to start to spill into general wards and corridors. The capacity held. As much as I like to criticize the testing and the late policy decisions of the usurpers, the doctors seem to have been on the ball. They deserve an attaboy. Edited June 19, 2020 by DrTuner 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 12 minutes ago, DrTuner said: The death toll was probably around 1,500-2,000: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/04/21/world/coronavirus-missing-deaths.html And the infections in tens or hundreds of thousands with the D614 strain between November to late February: Healthcare did fine, in fact nobody took notice at all until China went public (way too late). Dr. Boon did mention that the specifically designated COVID wards and Siriraj, Chula, BIDI and Mahidol were getting full at the peak before the lockdown. It would have taken about 2-3x more severe cases for the patients to start to spill into general wards and corridors. The capacity held. As much as I like to criticize the testing and the late policy decisions of the usurpers, the doctors seem to have been on the ball. They deserve an attaboy. In a BBC report just published it says: The number of deaths in Thailand has been 2% higher than average, with about 2,400 more people dying than usual. Not far off the estimate from the New York Times https://www.bbc.com/news/world-53073046 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRToMRT Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 Theres no quote! It's just a Thai news agency saying that someone (who has no medical background) said Thailand "is good". More propaganda than journalism. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sujo Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 23 hours ago, Percy P said: Where do you suggest a safe Country to go to. Looking at statistics on Thai CV it would suggest Thailand 's the place. Ever heard of new zealand? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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