Ahead of Trump rally, coronavirus cases surge in Oklahoma, other states

[XBroker]

Can't stand the disgusting tramp stamps, better to post NO picture than that.  Expect something big on 10/10/2020 involving turnip.. er... rump the sun god.

[Damual Travesty]

9 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Allow me to simplify: I have nothing on the topic, so am going to put in an off topic rant about Democrats, covid-19 and anything else I can fit in.

The topic is about Donald Trump, campaign rallies and covid-19 so I beg to differ.

[bendejo]

Just did some math.  19,000 attendees, and half of them contact the the virus, and half those are over 50 and/or have certain chronic illnesses (like diabetes) the body count would be between 100 and 200. 

Do your own math, all the stats you need are on the net.

See ya in 2 weeks.

 

 

[xylophone]

47 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Has been explained quite a few times in this thread, have fun reading.

Ah, the reading part........now that could be difficult!

[bendejo]

4 minutes ago, xylophone said:

Ah, the reading part........now that could be difficult!

 

The Tulsa MENSA has it's monthly meeting the third Saturday of every month, but I don't think any one attending the rally will be concerned about a scheduling conflict.

 

 

[lannarebirth]

3 minutes ago, bendejo said:

 

The Tulsa MENSA has it's monthly meeting the third Saturday of every month, but I don't think any one attending the rally will be concerned about a scheduling conflict.

 

 

 

If Trump had any interest in science he'd hold another rally next week in an outdoor stadium, so we can compare mortality rates. The NFL and it's fans would sure appreciate it.

[Walker88]

On 6/18/2020 at 2:37 AM, TopDeadSenter said:

Can you explain why Trump's upcoming rally is in a corona alarmist headline, yet 2 weeks of rioting, looting and mass gatherings by the left was never(that I saw) mentioned that it would be worsening corona?

 

 Rather than wait for an answer or diversion, this is why.

https://ktul.com/news/local/800000-people-reserve-tickets-for-president-trump-rally-campaign-manager-tweets

"More than 1 million ticket requests for Trump rally, campaign manager tweets"

 

 

Most of the protesters were young and fit, which is to say those least likely to suffer the worst of Covid. Most also wore masks.

 

Cult 45 are mostly older, obese, and avoid masks like the plague, since to them Covid is a Dem Hoax.

 

The factories are busy churning out Darwin Awards at a record pace for those attending 45's Hate-in.

[thaibeachlovers]

On 6/18/2020 at 2:22 PM, Eric Loh said:

This really is a ticking time bomb of exponential increase of infections. Thousands in-doors for up to 8 hours of vociferous and cheering with respiratory droplets flying all over the air from fervent supporters who will most probably followed Trump and not wearing masks. Will see if Trump will protect himself behind a plastic protective device. Me first policy. 

Tell that to the BLM protestors. You guys might have a case but for that. However, you can't say Donald is wrong and the BLM right when they do the same thing.

[Phoenix Rising]

18 hours ago, checkered flag said:

Don'y worry. The infected BLM protest crowd will probably stay away. Good to see real campaigning start.  

"Don'y worry. The infected BLM protest crowd will probably stay away."

I don't think he was worried but your obvious empathy is touching.

 

"Good to see real campaigning start."

Looking at it from a cynic's perspective for the Dems this can only be a good thing. When loads of older overweight (high risk) people gather in close proximity with little regard for social distancing or other preventative measures the herd is bound to get thinned by a virus that's still very much around.

After 20 rallies I'd say that come November 45's core group of supporters have been reduced by around 5%. 

Bye, bye 45, SDNY is eagerly waiting for your exit.

[thaibeachlovers]

Given the hatred for Trump and his base I'd have thought y'all would have been really keen for the rally to go ahead in hope they all get Corona and die, especially Trump.

However, you all seem very keen to save their lives. How good of you to be so concerned about Trump and his followers and don't want any harm to come to any of them.

I never thought you'd be so civic minded, but good on y'all.

Edited June 20, 2020 by thaibeachlovers

[Phoenix Rising]

3 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Tell that to the BLM protestors. You guys might have a case but for that. However, you can't say Donald is wrong and the BLM right when they do the same thing.

I certainly can understand why the BLM movement protested but don't agree with the way they did it. However, as has been pointed out repeatedly the BLM protests all took place outdoors and the use of masks was widespread. In addition to that the protesters were on average much younger and healthier that your average 45 lovefest participant.

So as you can see the case very much stands.

[thaibeachlovers]

1 minute ago, Phoenix Rising said:

I certainly can understand why the BLM movement protested but don't agree with the way they did it. However, as has been pointed out repeatedly the BLM protests all took place outdoors and the use of masks was widespread. In addition to that the protesters were on average much younger and healthier that your average 45 lovefest participant.

So as you can see the case very much stands.

As does my previous post. How charitable of you to want Trump to live to be president again.

[Phoenix Rising]

7 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

As does my previous post. How charitable of you to want Trump to live to be president again.

Please don't put words into my mouth. It's not the sign of a great mind to do so.

[Jingthing]

1 hour ago, Damual Travesty said:

As everything comes down to it, please allow me to simplify: Donald Trump will win re-election. The Democrat party is over. It will never survive the national humiliation of the number of indictments that will come down. The constant anti-Trump drum beat will not stop his re-election, the polls are conceived to deceive. Law and order will be restored in the USA, his rallies will continue, regardless of Covid-19 the lock down will end, the economy of the USA will recover, and the world economies depend on the re-opening of the USA for their economies to also recover. All of this despite the wave after wave potentially of covid-19 and whatever new virus comes along. Quit crying! Big Shout out to my Brothers and Sisters who love Sky News Australia 

You've been well programmed. Reality is a b word. 

[checkered flag]

1 hour ago, lannarebirth said:

 

If Trump had any interest in science he'd hold another rally next week in an outdoor stadium, so we can compare mortality rates. The NFL and it's fans would sure appreciate it.

I'm for more rallies too.

[checkered flag]

Biden could hold a basement bash. Maybe 10-20 people could attend. I'm sure half would be from CNN. 

[checkered flag]

55 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said:

I certainly can understand why the BLM movement protested but don't agree with the way they did it. However, as has been pointed out repeatedly the BLM protests all took place outdoors and the use of masks was widespread. In addition to that the protesters were on average much younger and healthier that your average 45 lovefest participant.

So as you can see the case very much stands.

Yea, outside until they smashed windows and went inside to join the fire sale.

[Walker88]

31 minutes ago, checkered flag said:

Yea, outside until they smashed windows and went inside to join the fire sale.

Very few of the protesters engaged in any sort of violence.  Also, according to the FBI, much of the violence was carried out by white supremacists pretending to be with the protesters. Both Twitter and Facebook had to remove posts and fake accounts of white supremacist groups trying to incite protester violence.  In Ohio, a BLM protest was met by hundreds of counter protesters carrying AR-15s and other weapons. Peaceful protesters exercising 1st Amendment rights in Lafayette Square were hit with tear gas, pepper spray and rubber bullets by Texas Prison Guards and Secret Service, just so 45 could do a photo op holding up a Bible in front of a church. At first the AG and WH denied such weapons were used, but subsequently admitted they were, particularly since video evidence proved it.

 

45 has called all protesters "antifa" and "lowlifes" (see his Tweets, even yesterday), albeit when Tacticool Mall Ninjas in Michigan showed up in camo and carrying AR-15s to protest Covid lockdown restrictions, 45 called them 'good people'.

Edited June 20, 2020 by Walker88

[Walker88]

18 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said:

I'm not amazed that the checkered flag must resort to lame personal attacks because as usual he's got nothing.

Facts bother those types.

 

Remember what 45's personal attorney Rudy Giuliani said:  "truth isn't truth".

 

Then there's Kellyanne Conway, she of "alternative facts".

[metisdead]

Some posts using offensive "cult 45" troll comments have been removed.  Continue to use that term in reference to Trump supporters and a warning will be coming.

[Walker88]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Given the hatred for Trump and his base I'd have thought y'all would have been really keen for the rally to go ahead in hope they all get Corona and die, especially Trump.

However, you all seem very keen to save their lives. How good of you to be so concerned about Trump and his followers and don't want any harm to come to any of them.

I never thought you'd be so civic minded, but good on y'all.

Frankly, there's little to be done for those who are purposely and willfully ignorant, and sympathy is best reserved for those deserving of it.

 

The issue, however, is that 45 fans will take the virus home and infect innocent people. For THAT, there is concern and empathy.

Edited June 20, 2020 by Walker88

[johnpetersen]

35 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

Very few of the protesters engaged in any sort of violence.  Also, according to the FBI, much of the violence was carried out by white supremacists pretending to be with the protesters. Both Twitter and Facebook had to remove posts and fake accounts of white supremacist groups trying to incite protester violence.  In Ohio, a BLM protest was met by hundreds of counter protesters carrying AR-15s and other weapons. Peaceful protesters exercising 1st Amendment rights in Lafayette Square were hit with tear gas, pepper spray and rubber bullets by Texas Prison Guards and Secret Service, just so 45 could do a photo op holding up a Bible in front of a church. At first the AG and WH denied such weapons were used, but subsequently admitted they were, particularly since video evidence proved it.

 

45 has called all protesters "antifa" and "lowlifes" (see his Tweets, even yesterday), albeit when Tacticool Mall Ninjas in Michigan showed up in camo and carrying AR-15s to protest Covid lockdown restrictions, 45 called them 'good people'.

He actually urged the government of Michigan to negotiation with them after they forced their way into the State Capitol.

[checkered flag]

30 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

Very few of the protesters engaged in any sort of violence.  Also, according to the FBI, much of the violence was carried out by white supremacists pretending to be with the protesters. Both Twitter and Facebook had to remove posts and fake accounts of white supremacist groups trying to incite protester violence.  In Ohio, a BLM protest was met by hundreds of counter protesters carrying AR-15s and other weapons. Peaceful protesters exercising 1st Amendment rights in Lafayette Square were hit with tear gas, pepper spray and rubber bullets by Texas Prison Guards and Secret Service, just so 45 could do a photo op holding up a Bible in front of a church. At first the AG and WH denied such weapons were used, but subsequently admitted they were, particularly since video evidence proved it.

 

45 has called all protesters "antifa" and "lowlifes" (see his Tweets, even yesterday), albeit when Tacticool Mall Ninjas in Michigan showed up in camo and carrying AR-15s to protest Covid lockdown restrictions, 45 called them 'good people'.

Blaming white supremacist for the violence and looting seems to be a major stretch to me. There could be some but the majority appears to be like the Seattle/Portland  crowd and affiliated with Antifa, hardly right wing, who start it with bricks/fire etc to let opportunists loot.

As here there is little tolerance for opposing views. If you don't agree the name calling and insults start. Voting should be by the ballot box not badgering on a forum.  

Pictures from Seattle show people with military type rifles openly. They don't appear right wing groups.

[metisdead]

A post using a trolling meme and a reply has been removed. 

[johnpetersen]

58 minutes ago, checkered flag said:

Blaming white supremacist for the violence and looting seems to be a major stretch to me. There could be some but the majority appears to be like the Seattle/Portland  crowd and affiliated with Antifa, hardly right wing, who start it with bricks/fire etc to let opportunists loot.

As here there is little tolerance for opposing views. If you don't agree the name calling and insults start. Voting should be by the ballot box not badgering on a forum.  

Pictures from Seattle show people with military type rifles openly. They don't appear right wing groups.

As for blaming white supremacists...

Feds charge 3 'boogaloo' adherents plotting violence at BLM protest

Three self-identified "boogaloo" adherents were arrested after plotting violence at a Black Lives Matter demonstration.
Andrew Lynam is a member of the United States Army Reserve, and his associates Stephen Parshall and William Loomis served in the Navy and the Air Force, respectively.
According to the FBI, all three were preparing for a coming civil war, and self-identified as members of the "boogaloo" movement.

https://abc7news.com/feds-charge-3-boogaloo-adherents-plotting-violence-at-blm-protest/6230433/

 

Federal Arrests Show No Sign That Antifa Plotted Protests

Despite claims by President Trump and Attorney General William P. Barr, there is scant evidence that loosely organized anti-fascists are a significant player in protests.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/11/us/antifa-protests-george-floyd.html

Edited June 20, 2020 by johnpetersen

[Ronaldd]

On 6/18/2020 at 8:20 AM, TopDeadSenter said:

Odd to see this spike being blamed on Trump's rally that didn't even happen yet. Is it possible the abandoning of social distancing and lockdown by the communist/BLM revolters has been the cause of this spike instead? I'm sure after praising and supporting the violent protesters for 2 weeks mainstream media can not be so crass as to whinge when the President holds his rally, that would be too ridiculous for words. Let's see.

You are exactly right my friend. The Main stream Medea didn't give a dam about left wing protesters and anarchist marching together all over the USA not social distancing, no temp checks, no sanitizing hand, maybe half had mask on. The Truth is Trump rallies draws in many people. The one tomorrow had one million request to attend in a 20,000 capacity stadium. So Trump will have 2 rallies the first one with 20,000 the second one in a nearby arena that seats 40,000 . Trumps opponent Joe Biden is 78 years old and suffers from Dementia and cant string one sentence together without notes in front of his face. Biden rallies have 500 to 1000 people. No excitement for this guy but he leads in the polls because their are more on the left then the right in the USA. The left know if Trump is unleashed with rallies all over the USA he will destroy Demetria Joe . This is how democracy works in the USA

 

 

 

[johnpetersen]

1 hour ago, checkered flag said:

Blaming white supremacist for the violence and looting seems to be a major stretch to me. There could be some but the majority appears to be like the Seattle/Portland  crowd and affiliated with Antifa, hardly right wing, who start it with bricks/fire etc to let opportunists loot.

As here there is little tolerance for opposing views. If you don't agree the name calling and insults start. Voting should be by the ballot box not badgering on a forum.  

Pictures from Seattle show people with military type rifles openly. They don't appear right wing groups.

This is the kind of lunacy that baseless assertions of antifa involvement with the protests trigger:

 

Deputies investigate after family on camping trip harassed

Authorities say a multiracial family camping on the Olympic Peninsula in Washington state was harassed and confronted by people who accused them of being political activists with antifa and trapped them at a remote campsite in the woods.

Sgt. Shaun Minks of the Clallam County Sheriff’s Office says the family of four arrived Wednesday in the town of Forks, Washington, in an old converted school bus and stopped to buy camping supplies at a local store.

He said as they were leaving the store, the family was confronted by people in several vehicles who asked them if they were from antifa — short for “anti-fascists”— an umbrella term for leftist militant groups that confront or resist neo-Nazis and white supremacists at demonstrations.

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/crime/multiracial-family-harassed-accused-of-being-antifa-during-camping-trip-in-clallam-county/

 

And this:

Armed groups fueled by rumors about antifa meet peaceful protesters in Snohomish

On May 31, hundreds of people — most of them men, many of them armed and some representing far right-wing groups — descended upon a stretch of this small town where restaurants, antique shops and flower pots line the street. 

They were drawn by rumors of a looming threat: Antifa activists were planning to bring chaos to their community and damage businesses as days of massive protests decrying the death of George Floyd, police brutality and racial injustice swept cities, including Seattle just 30 miles to the south. 

https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1168947-ahead-of-trump-rally-coronavirus-cases-surge-in-oklahoma-other-states/page/8/#comments

and this

False claims of antifa protesters plague small U.S. cities

In the days since President Donald Trump blamed antifa activists for an eruption of violence at protests over police killings of black people, social media has lit up with false rumors that the far-left-leaning group is transporting people to wreak havoc on small cities across America.

The speculation was being raised by conservative news outlets and pro-Trump social media accounts, as well as impostor Facebook and Twitter accounts.

Twitter and Facebook busted some of the instigators behind the unsubstantiated social media chatter.

https://www.startribune.com/false-claims-of-antifa-protesters-plague-small-u-s-cities/570971032/

[Ronaldd]

4 hours ago, bendejo said:

Just did some math.  19,000 attendees, and half of them contact the the virus, and half those are over 50 and/or have certain chronic illnesses (like diabetes) the body count would be between 100 and 200. 

Do your own math, all the stats you need are on the net.

See ya in 2 weeks.

 

 

At least one million  far leaning  left wing protesters not social distancing, no Temp checks, no sanitizer, half of them have mask on when they are not yelling. YouTube it if you don't believe me. Now you do the math genius 

Edited June 20, 2020 by Ronaldd

[johnpetersen]

7 minutes ago, Ronaldd said:

You are exactly right my friend. The Main stream Medea didn't give a dam about left wing protesters and anarchist marching together all over the USA not social distancing, no temp checks, no sanitizing hand, maybe half had mask on. The Truth is Trump rallies draws in many people. The one tomorrow had one million request to attend in a 20,000 capacity stadium. So Trump will have 2 rallies the first one with 20,000 the second one in a nearby arena that seats 40,000 . Trumps opponent Joe Biden is 78 years old and suffers from Dementia and cant string one sentence together without notes in front of his face. Biden rallies have 500 to 1000 people. No excitement for this guy but he leads in the polls because their are more on the left then the right in the USA. The left know if Trump is unleashed with rallies all over the USA he will destroy Demetria Joe . This is how democracy works in the USA

 

 

 

You think preaching to the converted is an effective politic tactic?

[checkered flag]

3 minutes ago, johnpetersen said:

As for blaming white supremacists...

Feds charge 3 'boogaloo' adherents plotting violence at BLM protest

Three self-identified "boogaloo" adherents were arrested after plotting violence at a Black Lives Matter demonstration.
Andrew Lynam is a member of the United States Army Reserve, and his associates Stephen Parshall and William Loomis served in the Navy and the Air Force, respectively.
According to the FBI, all three were preparing for a coming civil war, and self-identified as members of the "boogaloo" movement.

HTTP://abc7news.com/feds-charge-3-boogaloo-adherents-plotting-violence-at-blm-protest/6230433/

 

Federal Arrests Show No Sign That Antifa Plotted Protests

Despite claims by President Trump and Attorney General William P. Barr, there is scant evidence that loosely organized anti-fascists are a significant player in protests.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/11/us/antifa-protests-george-floyd.html

I can accept THREE arrests of right wing "boogaloo boys" but these were not at the BLM protests but rather against CIVID lock-downs. Whereas at the BLM protests there seems many black clad (antifa's favorite) uniformed punks present. In fact there were some BLM protesters that tried to stop them. I didn't see "boogaloo boys with bricks and gas filled bottles.

The evidence presented in the articles is very weak.