Fauci warns spread of COVID-19 'could get very bad', says no guarantee of vaccine

[utalkin2me]

14 hours ago, Lacessit said:

So Fauci is a hack, and Trump tells the truth? No wonder America is in such a mess, if that's what many Americans think.

You got some serious comprehension problems. 

[utalkin2me]

7 hours ago, yuyiinthesky said:

Good, herd immunity will get reached faster, not slowed down artificially again.

 

Maybe Fauci should look a little to other continents, Europe, Asia, cases down, deaths down, whatever the strategy was. He could learn something.

And then teach a little about working on your health, how being obese, being fat, living on junk food, makes your body much more vulnerable to this virus. Everywhere else the deaths are almost only in the age group of 65 and older, only in the US its already around 45, and probably even younger.

 

Is the virus targeting Americans, or are Americans more easy victims, and if so, why? Fix that.

 

But no, it’s all about the election now, and money, scaremongering is the game.

Fauci is bought. Only true sheeple listen to a word he says. 

 

Fauci told the world, without hesitating, that the US government lied to the American people and told them masks were not helpful. He put your life in danger on purpose. And he admitted to it, and did not think it was a bad thing! And people still do not get it. 

 

People deserve the leaders they have is all there is left to say. You should not get to admit that your purposefully lied, withheld information and endangered the lives of the public without being ousted. Yet there he sits in the same position. 

[Berkshire]

2 minutes ago, utalkin2me said:

People deserve the leaders they have is all there is left to say. You should not get to admit that your purposefully lied, withheld information and endangered the lives of the public without being ousted. Yet there he sits in the same position. 

If you're talking about D. Trump, I agree.

[johnpetersen]

1 hour ago, utalkin2me said:

Fauci is bought. Only true sheeple listen to a word he says. 

 

Fauci told the world, without hesitating, that the US government lied to the American people and told them masks were not helpful. He put your life in danger on purpose. And he admitted to it, and did not think it was a bad thing! And people still do not get it. 

 

People deserve the leaders they have is all there is left to say. You should not get to admit that your purposefully lied, withheld information and endangered the lives of the public without being ousted. Yet there he sits in the same position. 

Have you considered why Fauci lied about masks? He did it because there was a huge shortage and it was crucial that people on the front lines of health care had an adequate supply. Not only because Covid threatened them but because without these front line workers, a lot more patients would die. In other words it was precisely because he believed in the efficacy of masks that he lied.

[rudi49jr]

13 hours ago, scorecard said:

He visited several factories/location where there was easily noticeable signs telling staff they had to wear masks.

 

trump either ignored the signs and didn't wear a mask, or he said he din't want to wear a mask and out of politeness the seniors of these locations said 'ok, never mind' but they continued to wear masks.

 

His actions would be taken as a strong indicator that masks are not needed.

 

Inappropriate for trump to behave like this, but as always he does whatever is needed to draw extra attention to himself. 

Trump even went so far as to say that (some) people wear masks as a sign that they don't like him. I mean, I already knew the man was a raving narcissist, but this is beginning to border on the clinically insane.

[newnative]

17 hours ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

Id really like to know when Trump ever told the public to not wear a mask. 

You lead by example.  Unfortunately, Trump's leadership has been horrible, with the mask debacle just one example.

[steelepulse]

3 hours ago, johnpetersen said:

Have you considered why Fauci lied about masks? He did it because there was a huge shortage and it was crucial that people on the front lines of health care had an adequate supply. Not only because Covid threatened them but because without these front line workers, a lot more patients would die. In other words it was precisely because he believed in the efficacy of masks that he lied.

Why didn't he say this in the first place and advise people to buy basic masks and not to worry about n95 masks?  People would have respected this and listened since everyone trusts and believes in this guy.   In reality, he is now trying to cover his lies as he clearly explains.

 

BTW, good to see you agree and admit Fauci lied on this.  As plenty of evidence also shows, he's lied on plenty of occasions.

Edited July 1, 2020 by steelepulse

[Tie Dye Samurai]

16 hours ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

Nobody other than the retarded media and Democrats have made Trump and Masks an issue and thats an undeniable statement. THEY are the ones that have "politicized" mask wearing. 

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/05/26/trump-retweets-brit-hume-biden-mask-newday-vpx.cnn

 

You are really on the wrong side of history...

[nattaya09]

The head of the CDC said last week that they estimate the number of actual COVID cases at 10x the documented case number. If the documented daily number IS 30K-40K, then doesn't that mean the US likely has over a quarter million a day now?

[yuyiinthesky]

5 hours ago, steelepulse said:

Why didn't he say this in the first place and advise people to buy basic masks and not to worry about n95 masks?  People would have respected this and listened since everyone trusts and believes in this guy.   In reality, he is now trying to cover his lies as he clearly explains.

 

BTW, good to see you agree and admit Fauci lied on this.  As plenty of evidence also shows, he's lied on plenty of occasions.

So it’s ok if Fauci lies, interesting, even his friends admit it. When is he not lying? How can we know now?

 

A strong hint that he is indeed not a scientist any more, but became a politician, where lying is the new and the old normal.

 

Let’s also not forget that he was the one paying the Wuhan Virus lab to continue his experiments to make viruses more deadly, after that became illegal in the US. Yes, that Wuhan lab near that wet market, where all is supposed to have started. What is he not telling us about that?

Edited July 1, 2020 by yuyiinthesky

[simple1]

An outdated video clip of Dr. Anthony Fauci is circulating on social media — giving the false impression he is currently advising the public not to wear face masks. Fauci, like other health officials, recommends wearing a cloth face covering when distances of at least six feet can’t be maintained.

 

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/05/outdated-fauci-video-on-face-masks-shared-out-of-context/

[Dap]

19 hours ago, Damual Travesty said:

Now he wants Americans to wear masks. Yet I distinctly remember them saying don't wear masks it's safe to ride the packed to the gills NY subway and trains to NJ without masks. Go to hell  Fauci - all this clown is trying to do now is cover his ass. They have all been nothing more then mealy mouth worms who give nothing concrete . It's up to the herd to protect itself old style now - build up immunity and get strong.

 

No economy can survive a prolonged lock-down, the people are now confused. They are confused because the medical leadership of the USA - and for that matter - most of Europe - and the USA got conflicting advice from the medical professionals on what do do - they also failed to prepare - failed to sound alarms - failed in every way. The President, politicians - etc - all turned to these clowns and they simply spit garbage day after day. Time for them to simply step aside and shut their mouths. They are no longer relevant.

 

I am sure that in every closed door meeting him and that other woman whatever her name was left everyone at the table confused with their double sideways incomprehensible medical CYA speeches! Get lost!

I'm curious as to how you intend to build up (your own) immunity ("and get strong")?

[newnative]

On 7/1/2020 at 7:50 AM, Mama Noodle said:

 

Yeah and he also didn't "Quarantine for 14 days" in New Jersey which is their "law" nowadays and the media, creating even more retarded headlines, actually felt it was newsworthy. 

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/24/politics/trump-new-jersey-coronavirus-quarantine/index.html

 

I think its safe and has always been a safe assumption that the president is very well protected, everyone in his circle is constantly tested, no doubt every where he goes is cleaned, and making stupid headlines like you mention and the one I posted are the real problem that is causing divide. 

The president is afforded massive privileges like his own armored cars, armored private planes, billion dollar bunkers, his own dedicated medical team, and hell, even his food is screened so the assumption that he needs to "wear a mask" or "quarantine for 14 days" is extremely dumb. 

    And, yet, with all that testing his personal valet tested positive for the virus, as have a number of other White House staffers.  So, Trump could have been exposed and, not knowing it, while going around maskless he could have been exposing others.  You wear a mask to protect yourself but also because you care about possibly unknowingly exposing others, causing illness or death.  Selfish Trump could give a s**t about others. 

[scorecard]

On 7/1/2020 at 10:50 AM, Mama Noodle said:

 

Yeah and he also didn't "Quarantine for 14 days" in New Jersey which is their "law" nowadays and the media, creating even more retarded headlines, actually felt it was newsworthy. 

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/24/politics/trump-new-jersey-coronavirus-quarantine/index.html

 

I think its safe and has always been a safe assumption that the president is very well protected, everyone in his circle is constantly tested, no doubt every where he goes is cleaned, and making stupid headlines like you mention and the one I posted are the real problem that is causing divide. 

The president is afforded massive privileges like his own armored cars, armored private planes, billion dollar bunkers, his own dedicated medical team, and hell, even his food is screened so the assumption that he needs to "wear a mask" or "quarantine for 14 days" is extremely dumb. 

 But why is it so difficult to see the point;

he should be a good example for others to follow.

 

Plus when he doesn't act as a good example, all the time, he can't help himself from turning the situation into a focus on his own strange ego, instead of leading some focus valuable discussion. 

[Kwaynoom]

Fauci seems pretty relaxed for a guy that thinks the world is ending

[Sheryl]

On 7/1/2020 at 5:11 AM, ezzra said:

Israeli scientists are on the brink of introducing the vaccine of SAR and Covid-19...there are several articles to attest that Israeli scientists have the vaccine at hand but it's being tested on animals at the moment...

https://nocamels.com/2020/06/israeli-covid-19-vaccine-effective-animal-trial/

 

There are dozens of trials going on in multiple countries and some are already in advanced stage if human trials.

[4reaL]

1 minute ago, Sheryl said:

 

There are dozens of trials going on in multiple countries and some are already in advanced stage if human trials.

 

Does not mean the masses will even remotely have access to them.

Same with Covid tests.

[Sheryl]

2 minutes ago, 4reaL said:

 

Does not mean the masses will even remotely have access to them.

Same with Covid tests.

 

 Doesn't mean the vaccines will be effective, even.

 

And if there is an effective vaccine it will take a long time for there to be widespread access.

[johnpetersen]

26 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

 

 Doesn't mean the vaccines will be effective, even.

 

And if there is an effective vaccine it will take a long time for there to be widespread access.

Well, for one thing that depends on what kind of vaccine wins out. The one from moderna, for example, is made from synthesized mRNA. So you don't need to culture virus. That makes it a lot faster method. And Bill Gates says he will build virus manufacturing facilities to quicken the production levels.

[vermin on arrival]

On 7/1/2020 at 8:10 AM, Skallywag said:

Notice nowhere in this article do they mention death rates.  Yes "cases" are rising, but hospitalizations and deaths have fallen to about 1/10 the level it was in the U.S. in April. 

 

Yes mortality rates are way down in most places that have been through a significant period of infection.

[scorecard]

On 7/1/2020 at 11:00 AM, Mama Noodle said:

 

Nobody other than the retarded media and Democrats have made Trump and Masks an issue and thats an undeniable statement. THEY are the ones that have "politicized" mask wearing. 

What rubbish, he should be setting an example, that's it!

[Mama Noodle]

2 minutes ago, scorecard said:

What rubbish, he should be setting an example, that's it!

 

And if he did, you'd be on the next 'outrage' bandwagon. 

[johnpetersen]

1 hour ago, Kwaynoom said:

Fauci seems pretty relaxed for a guy that thinks the world is ending

And if he weren't calm, doubtless you would accuse him of being hysterical.

[scorecard]

17 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

And if he did, you'd be on the next 'outrage' bandwagon. 

And that's where your completely wrong, I would praise anybody for wearing a mask, Isn't that obvious?

 

Your comment has no logic.

Edited July 2, 2020 by scorecard

[RobFord]

On 7/1/2020 at 6:23 AM, Mama Noodle said:

 

Ive worn my FFP3 masks, face shield and bathed in alcohol every time I left the house and have zero doubt that masks work, even in the beginning when it was being said by top scientists in the USA not to use them, but where my doubt falls off is the hand to face/eyes/nose transmission. 

 

Yeah masks are great but you'd logically think that if a virus is easily spreadable on surfaces all it would take would be one handrail, one door knob to spread the virus and in massive gatherings such as protests and riots, hand-to-face transmission has GOT to be a problem unless you wanna tell me that these protesters are carrying hand gel and are constantly washing their hands before they touch their face, which would be a hard sell. 

 

So if massive protests and gatherings in close proximity to others in the middle of a pandemic does not spread coronavirus, as stated by you and others (which is along partisan lines) then the lockdowns and shutdowns are unnecessary because clearly all you have to do is wear a mask.

Another word salad.

[Mama Noodle]

1 minute ago, RobFord said:

Another word salad.

 

Not my fault there's such an issue on this forum with people being able to read simple words and understand them. 

[Phoenix Rising]

27 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

Not my fault there's such an issue on this forum with people being able to read simple words and understand them. 

There's more an issue with ever-Trumpers jumping to his defense even when it's glaringly obvious to anyone with more than one working brain cell Trump has failed COMPLETELY wrt handling Covid-19. In fact, they should rename it the Trump Plague.

 

Now, back to the topic of vaccines; Even if they managed top develop one they'd need to invent another vaccine to fix stupid.

 

'Half of Fox News Viewers Believe Bill Gates Wants to Use Virus Vaccines to Track You, New Poll Says'

 

 

 

Edited July 2, 2020 by Phoenix Rising

[Mama Noodle]

5 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said:

There's more an issue with ever-Trumpers jumping to his defense even when it's glaringly obvious to anyone with more than one working brain cell Trump has failed COMPLETELY wrt handling Covid-19. In fact, they should rename it the Trump Plague.

 

Yeah and anyone with an IQ above room temperature knows that magically switching presidents wouldnt have fixed a thing. California being a perfect example, reporting 6500 new cases and setting yesterdays death record. 

 

6 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said:

Now, back to the topic of vaccines; Even if they managed top develop one they'd need to invent another vaccine to fix stupid.

 

Yeah thats bad but at least they don't have problems working out what gender they are. 

PS, antivaxxers are primarily liberal left, so you got some stupid to fix too. 

[Phoenix Rising]

Just now, Mama Noodle said:

Yeah thats bad but at least they don't have problems working out what gender they are. 

PS, antivaxxers are primarily liberal left, so you got some stupid to fix too. 

"Yeah thats bad but at least they don't have problems working out what gender they are."

And that's relevant exactly how?

 

"PS, antivaxxers are primarily liberal left, so you got some stupid to fix too."

Stupidity is by no means limited to right wingers but the right has managed to make it their "trademark" during Trump's "presidency". 

[yuyiinthesky]

It would be so nice if the bickering Trump vs democrats/Biden would stop and you guys would focus on the real problems.