vermin on arrival Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, NewlyMintedThai said: Only problem is that there is not yet any scientific consensus that the presence of antibodies conveys immunity. Yet it most likely does, at least of a short term 1-2 year type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewlyMintedThai Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, vermin on arrival said: Yet it most likely does, at least of a short term 1-2 year type. “Most likely does” isn’t quite enough... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vermin on arrival Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, NewlyMintedThai said: “Most likely does” isn’t quite enough... Other diseases of this ilk give at least short term immunity. While it is possible that this novel disease may behave in a completely different manner than all other related diseases for some reason. The probability and reasonable expectation is on the side of it providing some form of immunity. If having antibodies for the disease doesn't provide immunity, than the efficacy of vaccines will also be limited, and we shouldn't be expecting much from them either. In which case, we will have to get back to life with reasonable precautions and accept out losses. Edited July 3, 2020 by vermin on arrival Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 23 hours ago, Bkk Brian said: So the only tourists who go in group tours in any volume would be the Chinese, this is obviously the target market Just in-case anyone was wanting a little confirmation, here it is........................ Chinese tourists for Phuket ‘bubble’ PHUKET: The Tourism and Sports Ministry will target specific provinces in China in a campaign to attract visitors back the resort island as travel restrictions are eased. https://www.thephuketnews.com/chinese-tourists-for-phuket-bubble-76591.php 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Rak Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 This is why Thai Airways is losing money, its the most expensive poor service flight from London to Bangkok 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Rak Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Anna Rak said: This is why Thai Airways is losing money, its the most expensive poor service flight from London to Bangkok, this is for one passenger on the 1st AUG 2020, pic taken 3.7.20 sorry about the picture. Edited July 3, 2020 by Anna Rak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Rak Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Just seen the list of countries that have had travel restrictions lifted by the U.K. Vietnam is on but Thailand is off, maybe they have been found out, as I suspect they have not been reporting fully!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVC Porter Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Anna Rak said: Just seen the list of countries that have had travel restrictions lifted by the U.K. Vietnam is on but Thailand is off, maybe they have been found out, as I suspect they have not been reporting fully!!!! Link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meat Pie 47 Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 6 hours ago, Pancho said: Wow! I don’t understand. Many new cases in Korea & China. https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2020/03/ff573fb4c21a-s-korea-reports-477-new-virus-cases-total-tops-4800.html?phrase=buddha&words= Nonsense USA has 50.000 daily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraggleRock Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Well it seems the UK Government don’t trust of believe the death figures in Thailand also, why? Well travelling from Thailand to the UK your are STILL required to do 2 weeks quarantine... Vietnam is trusted... oh dear Thailand, what went wrong ... https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-travel-corridors#travel-corridors-countries-and-territories-exemption-list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AndrewMciver Posted July 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2020 (edited) 32 minutes ago, fraggleRock said: Well it seems the UK Government don’t trust of believe the death figures in Thailand also, why? Well travelling from Thailand to the UK your are STILL required to do 2 weeks quarantine... Vietnam is trusted... oh dear Thailand, what went wrong ... https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-travel-corridors#travel-corridors-countries-and-territories-exemption-list It's not just the quarantine period, it's the insurance issues travelling without FCO permissions that will cause issues. UK not adding Thialand but adding Vietnam is bizarre. On Twitter it is suggested because the country will be having a high concentration of Chinese tourists soon that is causing concern. Final nail in the Thailand holiday for coffin for me Edited July 3, 2020 by AndrewMciver 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adelphi Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 53 minutes ago, fraggleRock said: Well it seems the UK Government don’t trust of believe the death figures in Thailand also, why? Well travelling from Thailand to the UK your are STILL required to do 2 weeks quarantine... Vietnam is trusted... oh dear Thailand, what went wrong ... https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-travel-corridors#travel-corridors-countries-and-territories-exemption-list For all of the UK's failings it's scientists/doctors still carry some weight. They will have been heavily involved in drawing up this list. Countries like Vietnam, South Korea and Japan will take not that they have been included but Thailand excluded. I can't see this helping Thailand get its abridges in place with other low risk Asian countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NewlyMintedThai Posted July 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2020 Come on...you really don’t know why Thailand isn’t on the list? It is because travel corridors/bubbles require reciprocal agreement. Thailand refused to agree to reciprocal travel rights for travelers from the UK, so game off. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adelphi Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, NewlyMintedThai said: Come on...you really don’t know why Thailand isn’t on the list? It is because travel corridors/bubbles require reciprocal agreement. Thailand refused to agree to reciprocal travel rights for travelers from the UK, so game off. Not sure about that. I just had a quick check of the list. As far as I know Australia and New Zealand will not let people from the UK visit their countries but they are on the list of countries who's citizens can visit the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewlyMintedThai Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 It isn’t based on nationality. It is based point of departure. The UK announcement does not take effect for a week. Expect reciprocal announcements from the other countries soon — otherwise, what aircraft are going to fly from them into the UK if they have to return empty? This only works if the agreements are bilateral. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AndrewMciver Posted July 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2020 (edited) 25 minutes ago, NewlyMintedThai said: Come on...you really don’t know why Thailand isn’t on the list? It is because travel corridors/bubbles require reciprocal agreement. Thailand refused to agree to reciprocal travel rights for travelers from the UK, so game off. Vietnam, Australia and New Zealand have given no rites to UK travellers. This isn't a list of reciprocal destinations, but rather where the UK gov deems it's safe to go to, and you don't have to return with a quarantine period. Not putting Thailand on the list is just bizarre. This will make it extremely tough to get travel insurance. Edited July 3, 2020 by AndrewMciver 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AndrewMciver Posted July 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2020 1 minute ago, NewlyMintedThai said: It isn’t based on nationality. It is based point of departure. The UK announcement does not take effect for a week. Expect reciprocal announcements from the other countries soon — otherwise, what aircraft are going to fly from them into the UK if they have to return empty? This only works if the agreements are bilateral. You are confused. These aren't bilateral agreements. The government ditched that, and instead simply published a list of countries that are safe to travel to for now and in the immediate future. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOS105 Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 2 hours ago, Anna Rak said: Just seen the list of countries that have had travel restrictions lifted by the U.K. Vietnam is on but Thailand is off, maybe they have been found out, as I suspect they have not been reporting fully!!!! Thailand is on the the list. https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-countries-and-territories-exempt-from-advice-against-all-but-essential-international-travel 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouse123 Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, SVC Porter said: Link? It's on the BBC, I saw it as well. Vietnam and Hong Kong are listed, Thailand and Cambodia and Laos are not. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/07/03/full-list-countries-exempt-uk-travel-quarantine/ https://www.bbc.com/news/explainers-53221896#sa-link_location=story-body&intlink_from_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.com%2Fnews%2Fuk-53283375&intlink_ts=1593795777349-sa Edited July 3, 2020 by Scouse123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOS105 Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Scouse123 said: It's on the BBC, I saw it as well. Vietnam and Hong Kong are listed, Thailand and Cambodia and Laos are not. https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-countries-and-territories-exempt-from-advice-against-all-but-essential-international-travel BBC are wrong. Edited July 3, 2020 by LOS105 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewMciver Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 1 minute ago, LOS105 said: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-countries-and-territories-exempt-from-advice-against-all-but-essential-international-travel BBC are wrong. But they still remain on the list for a 14 day quarantine. Meaning you can go to Vietnam and return no problem. But if you come back from Thailand you have to do 14 days quarantine. Why would Vietnam make the list and not Thailand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, LOS105 said: 8 minutes ago, Scouse123 said: It's on the BBC, I saw it as well. Vietnam and Hong Kong are listed, Thailand and Cambodia and Laos are not. https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-countries-and-territories-exempt-from-advice-against-all-but-essential-international-travel BBC are wrong. Specifically regarding the UK, there are two discussions in play in this thread. 1) Countries from which people can fly into the UK and not have to do 14 days Quarantine. 2) Countries to which people can fly whereby the FCO travel warnings and advisory have been lifted. The FCO has lifted its advisory against travelling to Thailand - the impact on this is that many Travel Insurance policies which were invalid are now valid for those who can travelling into Thailand. The list of countries within the UK’s 'Travel Bubble’ does not include Thailand, but does include Vietnam. Thai’s wishing to travel to the UK still have to self isolate for 14 days. Edited July 3, 2020 by richard_smith237 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouse123 Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, LOS105 said: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-countries-and-territories-exempt-from-advice-against-all-but-essential-international-travel BBC are wrong. It doesn't say where your link is to this summary? I could print something like this off myself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNXexpat Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 On 7/2/2020 at 5:10 PM, tribalfusion001 said: The infographic I saw said covid free for 60 days, where in the world is covid free for 60 days. The countries mentioned are not covid free for 30 days, China, Japan and South Korea are having outbreaks at present. It also said the trips would be for 6/7 days, not worth it even for tourists from those countries. I don´t understand the maths. 1,000 people per day = 200 per destination. Let´s say 3 countries are on the list and they fly from 3 different airports per country to the 5 destinations. 200 : 9 = 22,22 passengers per flight What airline would do this? Or the ticket prices must be crazy high. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOS105 Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said: There are two discussions in play in this thread. 1) Countries from which people can fly into the UK and not have to do 14 days Quarantine. 2) Countries to which people can fly whereby the FCO travel warnings and advisory have been lifted. If you go to the FCO and click on the USA it states that you must do the the 14 days quarantine on return to the UK. click on Thailand and it does not have the same requirement listed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOS105 Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 7 minutes ago, Scouse123 said: It doesn't say where your link is to this summary? I could print something like this off myself! https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/thailand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouse123 Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, CNXexpat said: I don´t understand the maths. 1,000 people per day = 200 per destination. Let´s say 3 countries are on the list and they fly from 3 different airports per country to the 5 destinations. 200 : 9 = 22,22 passengers per flight What airline would do this? Or the ticket prices must be crazy high. Probably ill thought out and shoddy scenarios from junior government ministers without it being government policy. Let's see what comes out in the media from government in the next two weeks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewMciver Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 6 minutes ago, CNXexpat said: I don´t understand the maths. 1,000 people per day = 200 per destination. Let´s say 3 countries are on the list and they fly from 3 different airports per country to the 5 destinations. 200 : 9 = 22,22 passengers per flight What airline would do this? Or the ticket prices must be crazy high. It's solely for China. Probably. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewMciver Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, LOS105 said: If you go to the FCO and click on the USA it states that you must do the the 14 days quarantine on return to the UK. click on Thailand and it does not have the same requirement listed. The minister in charge Grant Shapps tweeted the list himself. Doesn't include Thailand. Although it's fantastic news FCO advice says it's okay to travel to Thailand. Means insurance policies will be valid. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouse123 Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, LOS105 said: https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/thailand Cheers, Right, it is still not recommending visiting areas on the Thai/Malay border such as Yala, Pattani etc I for one WANT Thailand on the list with all countries, and others in the region here such as Cambodia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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